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How to change school policy

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Pookielumchum · 10/09/2022 00:28

There's a school policy i believe needs changing. I reached out to other parents on a private parent Facebook group, and it turned out several parents agreed with me. I went to the headteacher and said, I and these other parents want change. Can we address the policy." She said that no one had minded before. So it wasn't a problem before I brought it up. And it wouldn't be appropriate for me to bring the other parents in with me. And she wouldn't accept a poll showing all the parents who want a change. How is one supposed to fix things, if not by working together as a group of parents?

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TeenDivided · 11/09/2022 07:13

Hesma · 11/09/2022 07:07

Honestly in reception I don’t think it’s an issue. I guess if it’s not the norm in your culture then I understand you being uncomfortable with it but I’m not sure you’ll be able to change this. I’m not sure why they just don’t say send the children in to school wearing PE kit for that day. I would have thought that would make things easier for everyone including teaching and support staff.

re sending in in PE kit:
Because making sure that children can dress and undress themselves is part of Early Years curriculum.
Because 4/5 year olds are sometimes not very articulate and seeing naked torsoes / shoulders can act as an opportunity to spot physical abuse.

YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 11/09/2022 07:37

SianNotAMan · 11/09/2022 00:11

Where on Earth are you from that “handicap” is acceptable?

Which other offensive terms are used there? Do you have spastics, cripples and flids too?

I dont know where the OP is from, but in America the term Handicap is used. Handicap Bathroom, Handicap Parking, etc. So there are places that the term "handicap" is acceptable.

MajesticElephant · 11/09/2022 07:39

This is the second thread I’ve seen today when the OP is being a part because “I’m my culture”. I am all up for learning and embracing new cultures but this doesn’t mean that those who choose to live in this country are excluded from ignoring or insulting the culture that already exists here.

LetHimHaveIt · 11/09/2022 07:47

YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 11/09/2022 07:37

I dont know where the OP is from, but in America the term Handicap is used. Handicap Bathroom, Handicap Parking, etc. So there are places that the term "handicap" is acceptable.

I was assuming from all her contributions, that she's American. Although 'handicap' is falling out of favour there, too, thankfully.

PicaNewName · 11/09/2022 07:53

This is silly. I'm also from a 'different culture', in Europe. Reception children are 4-5 years old. At this age children in my country go to the beach without a top regardless of their sex, nobody cares or stares.

stepfordwifey · 11/09/2022 07:57

"All the parents"... but just 2 have contacted the school directly.

crosbystillsandmash · 11/09/2022 08:00

Pookielumchum · 10/09/2022 10:35

I also think mixed-sex changing is a safeguarding concern. The headteacher made the point that they need to see children's bodies in order to identify signs of abuse (bruises and burns). They're not able to see much of a child's body in mixed-sex situations because they children are dressed in extra clothes for modesty's sake.

Your last paragraph is absolute rubbish.

You miss the point that the vast majority of parents actively avoid 'modesty clothing' for girls.
So staff would still be able to see a child's legs, arms etc

Maybe educate yourself on how damaging it is to insist young girls where modesty clothing?
Why should girls wear shorts under their dresses/skirts?!

crosbystillsandmash · 11/09/2022 08:04

Pookielumchum · 10/09/2022 18:52

Most places have handicap bathrooms. I literally can't use the bathroom without one. Where would i leave the other 2 kids?

I suggest you focus on educating yourself on how inappropriate the term 'handicap' is!

And please don't use a disabled toilet unless you're entitled. Very selfish behaviour.

Fladdermus · 11/09/2022 09:35

Does your DH also have a bad knee?

cansu · 11/09/2022 09:40

As you can see many don't share your view on here. Changing school policy on the back of a few parents getting together to make a fuss is not likely to happen.

cansu · 11/09/2022 09:42

There are also wider implications. Maybe this year there is enough space and staff. What about next year? Maybe the space will be needed for interventions or a child who needs a safe space. Maybe they won't have enough TAs? The school sets policy not you.

Borderterriorist · 11/09/2022 10:09

I was a school governor for nearly 10 years and Chair of governors for 7 of those years. If any parent complains to a head teacher and is dissatisfied with the answer, the way forward is to go on the school website, where there will be a copy of the complaints procedure. Follow that procedure. tbh I doubt that the OP will get anywhere with this particular complaint but at least she will have a written reply. IMO there is nothing worse than parents who lobby other parents to support them, the complaint is either justified or not and lobbying parents to get support does not make any difference to the actual complaint, it just leads to unpleasantness

whowhatwerewhy · 11/09/2022 11:02

Op if you and other parents are concerned about modesty please make your DD wear trousers. There is lots of sitting on the carpet , skirts getting tucked into pants , handstands, cartwheels, climbing and just general reception activities that your DD might exposes her pants /legs / body .
At that age no other children take any notice but you might wish to think about it.

Plumbear2 · 11/09/2022 11:26

I've had several children go through primary school. In older years they do separate in the children. Its not needed in reception, they are to young to notice (your ideas come from yourself not your child) many children need help and theres not enough staff to accommodate separating them. Like I said I've had several kids in reception and this has never been an issue. If you make this an issue you will become THAT parent and it will follow you untill year 6.

Plumbear2 · 11/09/2022 11:27

MajesticElephant · 11/09/2022 07:39

This is the second thread I’ve seen today when the OP is being a part because “I’m my culture”. I am all up for learning and embracing new cultures but this doesn’t mean that those who choose to live in this country are excluded from ignoring or insulting the culture that already exists here.

Exactly this.

suzyscat · 11/09/2022 12:50

Perhaps those children in extra clothes are put in them for speed of changing rather than modesty?

stepfordwifey · 11/09/2022 13:28

Borderterriorist · 11/09/2022 10:09

I was a school governor for nearly 10 years and Chair of governors for 7 of those years. If any parent complains to a head teacher and is dissatisfied with the answer, the way forward is to go on the school website, where there will be a copy of the complaints procedure. Follow that procedure. tbh I doubt that the OP will get anywhere with this particular complaint but at least she will have a written reply. IMO there is nothing worse than parents who lobby other parents to support them, the complaint is either justified or not and lobbying parents to get support does not make any difference to the actual complaint, it just leads to unpleasantness

Completely this.
Nothing worse than mob mentality.

ballsdeep · 11/09/2022 13:37

You’re concerned about 4 year olds getting changed in front of each other but call people Handicap?????????

Yellowmellow2 · 11/09/2022 15:54

youcantry · 10/09/2022 10:54

School Governors. There will be Parent Governors and should be listed on school website so speak to them and they will raise the issue on your behalf. It will then be noted on the meeting minutes so has to be addressed.

Incorrect. Parent governors are not parent reps, or the voice of parents. They are governors elected from a pool of parents. Operational decisions such as this are made by the senior leadership team.

Yellowmellow2 · 11/09/2022 15:56

Borderterriorist · 11/09/2022 10:09

I was a school governor for nearly 10 years and Chair of governors for 7 of those years. If any parent complains to a head teacher and is dissatisfied with the answer, the way forward is to go on the school website, where there will be a copy of the complaints procedure. Follow that procedure. tbh I doubt that the OP will get anywhere with this particular complaint but at least she will have a written reply. IMO there is nothing worse than parents who lobby other parents to support them, the complaint is either justified or not and lobbying parents to get support does not make any difference to the actual complaint, it just leads to unpleasantness

This 👆🏻

Coffeepants · 18/09/2022 21:44

OP I requested for my child to change seperately and the school was accommodating. Responses on this thread have been unnecessarily aggressive.

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