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Anyone NOT ALLOWED to escort there recpetion children (aged 4) who have been there less than 3 weeks to the class room then?

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NannyL · 20/09/2007 19:31

OMG I am seething....

my 4 year old charge has recently started reception in a TINY private school. (It 'is' a house, not even a particularly big house, just a 4 bed detached house on a street with loads of other hosues that are similar)

Anyway the children hang the coats in the 'hallway'. Given that it was a house the hallway is not that massive, but that is where ALL the children in the school hang their coats / sort out their book bags, and remove snack box and reading folder, and then take off hat and put in their bag before hanging coat / balzer and book bag on peg and carrying snack box and reading folder into class room.

My 4 year old has been there for 3 weeks now.... Today i went in as usual (with the phil and teds buggy with my 2 year old strapped-in in). I made my 4 year old take off his coat HIMSELF, (and find the hook and hang it up on the peg) and take off his hat himself, and pass his hat to me to hold while he took his snack box and reading folder out of his bag himself , and then passed him back his hat so he could put it in his bag and hang the bag on the peg

(he was going on a play date today so also had another bag of home clothes)

The miserable old bag teacher then said to me "Now he's in reception dont you think he should be doing it himself" I said yes, he HAS done it himself (He is only just learning to undo his stiff blazer buttons and cause its a new blazer sometimes genuinely CANT do it, though i always make him try)

She said "No, i dont think YOU need to come IN here now, i think next week you should wait at the door and watch him do it"

I couldnt belive my ears.... he has only been there 3 weeks, he NEEDS me at the moment...

also he is the only boy on his class (7 children 6 girls and a boy) so mb wants me to have close contact with the teacher at the moment, because tbh he may wellbe changing schools (anoterh issue altogether)

Anyway i ALWAYS then walk through with him to the class room and say hi to the teacher, see what they are doing today, then we have a hug and kiss good bye etc and i go back out and collect the buggy from the hall and off i go.

Are any other schools expecting the 4 year olds who have been there just 2.5 weeks to go in by themselves, completely sort them selves out and then go in?

(In the other schools that my old charges have gone to it has been completely normal for mums etc to help hang up the coats / bags etc them settle the child into the classroom for the WHOLE of reception, with it being discourged in years 1, and then not allowed after the 1st half term of year 1 (when mums were still allowed in cloakroom, just not actually IN the classrom)

I told my mb who said that on Monday the same teacher had said the same to her.
She also said please ignore her and take him in as usual!

(I will)

This is the same teacher who last year when my charge was in the nursary (a 'building' in the 'back garden') and i left my then one year old in the cloackroom asked me "if i would mind leaving him alone in the buggy in the 'new shelter type thing'?" built for leaving buggies and bikes and car seats in duting the day! (The i told her actually i DID mind as i refused to leave my 1 year old in a 'bus stop with a door completely unsupervised, and that also he would cry his eyes out and hate it... and I continued 'parking' him in the buggy in the hall way as usual)

Woudl love to know if anyother recption chidlren are supposed to be going in COMPLETELY alone yet!

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prettybird · 21/09/2007 10:16

P1 (equivalent to Reception, only the youngest will be 4.5) kids at our school only have their parents going in on the first day.

Thereafter, they line up outside and they go into the cloakroom themselves.

Class of 25.

If you want to have a chat with the teacher, you can try to have a word just before they line up, but if not, you make an appointment.

3andnomore · 21/09/2007 10:39

Well, after this debate on here, and me realising that I actually had no idea what would happen as off monday, lol...I asked this morning...and apparently we are still taking them into the classroom, just as we have done....sounds like fun ...I mean, tis bad enough with both the receptionclasses being only half numbers in the mornings at the moment...and it's busy and full in the hallway...on monday, both receptionclasses will be doubled...

mummytojess · 21/09/2007 11:23

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prettybird · 21/09/2007 11:35

Having said that, at ds' (state) nursery school (which overlpas English Reception), which children attend from 3 to 5.5 (depending on thier birthday), parents were expected to go into the cloakroom and get thier kids ready. Children were encouraged to find thier own name tags (to help them recongise their names), but parents helped with taking jackets off etc. You alsp had a chance to talk to the nursery teacher if you wanted to.

MadamePlatypus · 21/09/2007 11:41

At DS's montessori nursery, all the children are expected to go in by themselves from when they start at "rising" 3. However, it is handled very professionally and they meet the teacher at the door. The overriding message I get from your post is that your gut instinct about the school is bad. I agree leaving a baby alone in a buggy is a very stupid idea.

newgirl · 21/09/2007 14:16

you sound a very caring nanny

i think it would be sensible to undo his coat just outside and then try him going in on his own - or half way to ease him into it

my dd's reception class did line up and go in and i think they like the responsibility

one or two parents do go in but i think the children needed special help eg hearing aids etc
why not try it their way and see what happens?

NAB3 · 21/09/2007 14:20

We are expected to send our Reception children from the gate in to class themselves but mine won't even go in from the door so that isn't going to happen any time soon!

Butkin · 21/09/2007 15:00

Our DD is in reception at an independent school and has to wear her blazer but I can't understand the button thing - her blazer isn't done up and neither are those of her class mates.

We are allowed into the cloak room with her but she - like all her friends - carries everything and does everything herself. I say goodbye at the door of her class room but do glance in to check out the art work etc.

wheresthehamster · 21/09/2007 17:53

Do people REALLY want daily updates from the teacher?

Gobbledigook · 21/09/2007 18:09

Ds2 has just started reception. They line up in the playground and walk in together WITHOUT parents. We don't go near the classroom. He is in a yr 1 class though so he goes in the main entrance with the rest of the infants who also line up with their teacher.

The 2 main reception classes go directly into their classroom doors in another part of the building, you are encouraged to let them go in alone but if you really need to there is no issue if you want to help hang coats up etc.

I certainly don't feel the need to talk the teacher daily!!

Gobbledigook · 21/09/2007 18:09

So, basically, exactly what Twig said in the very first response! Ha ha!

friendlyedjit · 21/09/2007 18:13

My dd's school sounds quite similar to most posters.
they line up and teacher collects and marches them all in. Parents wave goodbye and leave.
There are a few who have children who have found changing class or are just more nervous and their parents usually do walk some of way from playground to classroom. the teachers are usualy very good and have identified these and bring them up to top of line so they can hold their hands, and be reassuring etc.

Most children have little hands and find it difficult with buttons, and can find zips tricky. My dd2 has on occasion been very ingenious and climbed in and out of her fleecy!!!!!!

Gobbledigook · 21/09/2007 18:13

And just proving that putting a 4 year old in a blazer is farking ridiculous

God, I am so late to this thread

Gobbledigook · 21/09/2007 18:14

Blimey, how hard is it to just unzip or unbutton the child's coat before you leave them. THey won't freeze to death!

wheresthehamster · 21/09/2007 18:16

Absolutely!

friendlyedjit · 21/09/2007 18:16

gobbledegook!!

visual of icicles hanging out of unbuttoned blazer

Isababel · 21/09/2007 18:18

Well, have just read the OP, and... I'm not allowed to take DS to his classroom since week 1, strict orders by DS. The school says it is fine until the end of reception.

spugs · 21/09/2007 19:26

when i was teaching in reception children were lined up outside with parents and taken in by teacher and teaching assistant. that was from day one, if a child was upset then obviously we would let there parent bring them in but would try and pursuade them to leave at eh outside door. it was the same when my dd1 started and i never had a problem with it

Surfermum · 21/09/2007 20:26

DD has been going in without me since day 1 and she's absolutely fine. She's perfectly capable of finding her peg, taking off her coat, hanging it up and putting her PE Bag and water bottle where they need to go without any help. And I'm sure in winter she'll cope with having a hat and gloves on as well.

I don't need to see that she's settled, because I can tell that she's perfectly happy by the way she trots off in every morning.

We had a home visit before she started, and the teachers made it clear that they were available and more than happy to talk about any concerns either before or after school, and they are at the door to the building to welcome all the children and available if needed. I liked them a lot and I'm sure that if there was any problem with dd not settling they would tell me.

So all in all it doesn't bother me that I don't get to go in. What I do find hilarious is the motivational music they play as the children go in. This morning was "Reach for the Stars", the S Club 7 song!

nooka · 21/09/2007 22:00

I'm not implying that private schools are bad (unless they have stupid uniforms that is!) I went to one, and I expect that ds/dd may well do too. I would however (and did) actively choose against schools that made children wear clothes they couldn't manage (like ties or lace up shoes). I really don't think that that is very fair. Re the coming into school thing, thinking about it I didn't go in to their nursey in the morning either (unless there was something that needed organising).

Hulababy · 22/09/2007 10:28

nooka - it took DD less than half a term to learn how to tie her own tie. No laces as shoes have velcro. She can manage her whole unfirm on her own. However should they need help there are two members of staff available to help - between 15 girls. So never been an issue.

I chose DD's school for the school and the feel, not for a uniform. To have rules it on on uinform would be, for me, ridiculous as we'd have been missing out on an excellent education!

I don't feel the need to have to speak to the teacher every day. However the fact that I can, whenever I want, is good IMO. There are tons of threads on MN complaining that it is hard to contact the school teachers and that they feel contact with school is difficult - no usch problems with our system. Can't understand why anyone would think regular and almost contact between parent and teacher can ever be a bad think.

edam · 22/09/2007 10:38

I'm already expected to leave ds at the door and he's only in the nursery attached to his primary school - the foundation unit includes nursery and reception. He'll go into reception in Jan. He has been there for two terms so should be OK but actually he's being a bit clingy atm after the long school hols. So I think I'll carry on going in with him for the next few days at least - now all the other kids are starting to go in on their own presumably he'll get into it.

islandofsodor · 22/09/2007 23:01

Dd goes to a private school with blazer etc. We were expected to leave them in the playground after day 3. They all troop in with their teacher and TA an hang up blazers, bags etc etc. Not a problem.

The school is fairly open but parents go in via the main reception entrance where noticeboards etc are. I would hate to have to go into her classroom each day. Its asking for tears and tantrums.

paolosgirl · 22/09/2007 23:05

We don't have reception in Scotland, but DD has been going in to her classroom on her own from day 1 of Primary one. I don't think it's a problem really.

NannyL · 25/09/2007 19:33

thought i would add to this thread that my bosses are really VERY unhappy with the school and he will NOT be going back after half term

The plan is that he will be happy in his next school!

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