Daughter's teacher called her a numpty

[Ottermum23]

Hi all,
We have a lovely little daughter, in year3.
She is a very enthusiastic learner, who always loved school and loves academic challenges.
This year, she had a new teacher, who is not the nicest, but nevertheless, We thought, just give her the benefit of a doubt.
Our girl been contstantly saying, that the teacher shouts, and today, she said, she called her a numpty, as she accidentally started to do her writing on someone else's book.

I find this very frustrating and just would like to hear others opinions.
Thank you.

Sorry user, did you miss the bit where I asked you about your qualifications?

I’m a psychologist working in an international setting.

I'm surprised you have time to practice tbh, User.

So many issues, so many threads, and so many opinions

Is there anything you aren't completely right about?

So not working in a classroom then, teaching? No qualifications in child development, attainment and pedagogy?

OK then

OFFS user, take the stick out of your arse.

And I'm not a teacher.

A numpty means idiot and I'd not be happy with a teacher calling my dc this 'term of endearment'

I'd speak with the teacher and if it continued I'd speak with the head.

I work with 16-21 year olds privately and as an advisor to institutions in several countries/languages.

16-21 year olds offer huge amounts of insight into what has and hasn’t been effective in their education.

Roller, I looked up on the dictionary and it says,

" A good humoured admonition, a term of endearment"

What type of psychologist are you?

I understand that the term "psychologist" has no official meaning in the EU. (from my friend who calls herself one and does a bit of counselling when she's not working as a primary teacher) Most psychologists are careful to preface the word with their actual specialised qualification- you know, to separate them from all the psychology graduates who also call themselves psychologists.

ProfessorMoody - you do realise that a lot of training for the classroom is absolute rubbish? That education departments are full of ideology and low on science?

There is no EU-wide qualification in psychology. So I don’t know what you are referring to. Nor do you!

Roller, I looked up on the dictionary and it says,

" A good humoured admonition, a term of endearment"

Exactly! So the posters saying things like ‘it’s not a term of endearment to me’ and ‘it means idiot’ etc... well that’s fine. Assign whatever meaning to it you want. It’s essentially wrong though. It’s like saying ‘to me, the word ‘nice’ actually means ‘horrible’.

Exactly.

In the dictionary, a sausage is defined as:
1.
an item of food in the form of a cylindrical length of minced pork or other meat encased in a skin, typically sold raw to be grilled or fried before eating.

As I'm sure you're aware, a child is neither made of minced pork or sold raw to be grilled before eating though it could be argued that they're meat encased in a skin whereas if you look at the second definition:

BRITISH
used as an affectionate form of address, especially to a child.
"‘Silly sausage,’ he teased"

That "affectionate" word is pretty clear there, isn't it.

I'm sure if a teacher really wanted to insult a child, they'd come up with something worse than a numpty or a sausage.

My English Teacher used to call us cretinous neanderthals. I don't remember any of us being eternally offended and I look back on him with fondness.

ProfessorMoody - you do realise that a lot of training for the classroom is absolute rubbish? That education departments are full of ideology and low on science

Do you? You don't have any qualifications in teaching, you said.

I have a degree in education, a Master's in Education and am currently undertaking a PhD in education. I have a fair amount of experience in "training for the classroom", however I don't wish to go into the critique of certain ideologies on Mumsnet. It would be boring and nothing to do with this thread.

HTH.

“Cretinous Neanderthals” to Secondary school students isn’t dangerous in the way “numpty” or “silly sausage” is to a primary aged child.

Dangerous?! Are you actually kidding?

I suggest, ProfessorMoody, that you change tack and move out of education departments. They are very dangerous places.

FFS. Honestly. And people wonder why all the fabulous teachers are leaving the profession in droves.

To all those (including the OP) who think that this is even worth a discussion, you need to get a life!

Oh, OK. I'll change my career and everything I'm passionate about on the words of a random bullshitter person on Mumsnet. If only we'd met sooner!

I suggest that you run along and hoist your pants up elsewhere.

You have a strange definition of the word ‘dangerous’, userxyz123blehblehbleh. Gaza is a very dangerous place. An ‘education department’ generally isn’t.

Passion befits parenting, not teaching.

user I regularly call DS 7 and DD 11 bananas in the same context as "numpty". Because they've done something daft like come home from swimming with one sock on, because they thought they'd already put the first one on. Neither of them takes it seriously.

Ah ok, understood. I can only be passionate about my parenting and not about inspiring other children. Cool.

SoyDora - I beg to differ. The parlous state of education has a great deal to do with the ideologies of education departments. They are very dangerous places indeed.

When I googled numpty this came up

Numpty

ˈnʌmpti/

noun

INFORMAL•SCOTTISH

a stupid or ineffectual person

Which is my understanding of the word so all those 'good teachers leaving' would be a shame if they're not using ^ this word to describe a child.