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Daughter's teacher called her a numpty

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Ottermum23 · 02/10/2018 20:27

Hi all,
We have a lovely little daughter, in year3.
She is a very enthusiastic learner, who always loved school and loves academic challenges.
This year, she had a new teacher, who is not the nicest, but nevertheless, We thought, just give her the benefit of a doubt.
Our girl been contstantly saying, that the teacher shouts, and today, she said, she called her a numpty, as she accidentally started to do her writing on someone else's book.

I find this very frustrating and just would like to hear others opinions.
Thank you.

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user1499173618 · 03/10/2018 10:16

Philomena - as a parent you and your children have a relationship that is qualitatively entirely different to the relationship that teachers ought to have with their students in a classroom setting.

PhilomenaButterfly · 03/10/2018 10:17

Wow. I'm glad you're not a teacher user. It's lovely seeing passion in the face of someone teaching, or working in a children's centre etc.

DF kept teaching part time after retirement because he was passionate about it.

user1499173618 · 03/10/2018 10:19

Philomena - I have no desire to teach in a classroom setting but I very much enjoy helping young people overcome the residual and unconscious trauma that many of them incurred in unprofessional classroom settings.

ProfessorMoody · 03/10/2018 10:20

😂

Ottermum23 · 03/10/2018 10:21

Thank you user. I wish, that,we could be surrounded by people like you in the educational system.👌

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SoyDora · 03/10/2018 10:22

Ottermum23 I asked upthread but I think it got lost. Why don’t you pay for private schooling if you think the state education system is so shocking?

PhilomenaButterfly · 03/10/2018 10:23

I also don't think any of my 4 children have been traumatised by being called numpties or silly sausages by their teachers. I doubt the older 2 even remember it.

When I was in secondary school I had a, for the most part, amazing English teacher. Except for one thing. She bullied and took the piss out of a 15yo boy who couldn't read. It was uncomfortable to witness. That's damaging.

BookMeOnTheSudExpress · 03/10/2018 10:26

I didn't ask you what your qualifications are. I asked you what type of psychologist you were. What with psychologist as a word being meaningless.

Because anyone with a degree in psychology (and not even that) can call themselves one. It's a bit of a standing joke in many of those dreadful "education departments" (wtf is one of those anyway? do you mean school?)

When you say you work with international thingies- do you mean you're an online psychologist?

Do you know, if you put "can anyone call themselves a..." it finishes the question off for you with "psychologist" (followed by doctor) Funny dat.

Ottermum23 · 03/10/2018 10:28

SoyDora, we could afford private education, but couldn't have a comfortable lifestyle and pay for the fees at the same time.
We are lucky, that we are in a catchment area for two great grammar schools, so will try to go down that route.
I think, I can have an opinion on the system and still have my kids in a state school, it's "only" an online forum, I don't go around the school, bashing their quality of teaching. I appreciate, that a teacher's job can be very difficult sometimes.

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user1499173618 · 03/10/2018 10:28

Philomena - your anecdote clearly illustrates damaging behaviour.

However, it is not because things are not blindingly obvious (such as your example) that they are not insidiously damaging. Primary aged children are often highly impressionable and eager to avoid displeasing adults in authority. They go along with expected behaviours and reactions at the time but being called names injures their self respect.

ProfessorMoody · 03/10/2018 10:28

Are you sure you're a psychologist, User? On other boards you seem to be advising parents on primary school reading schemes.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 03/10/2018 10:31

That education departments are full of ideology and low on science?

There’s plenty of scientists who’d say that about psychology tbh.

user1499173618 · 03/10/2018 10:33

Research into reading takes place in psychology departments, ProfessorMoody.

ProfessorMoody · 03/10/2018 10:34

Odd. And boarding schools in the UK too?

Reporting. I don't think you're who you say you are Wink

user1499173618 · 03/10/2018 10:34

Psychology is the science of the brain.

user1499173618 · 03/10/2018 10:35

What is incongruous about that?

MrsJMartintheFirst · 03/10/2018 10:36

@user1499173618 educational psychologist? Enough said really.....

user1499173618 · 03/10/2018 10:37

No, I’m not an educational psychologist.

MrsJMartintheFirst · 03/10/2018 10:39

Even worse then...@user1499173618.....
@ProfessorMoody - you have put into words what I'm thinking much more eloquently than I could. As a teacher of 26 years standing I despair sometimes. And this is one of them...

BlaaBlaaBlaa · 03/10/2018 10:46

passion befits parenting, not teaching
What absolute bullshit.

The education system would be in an even worse state than it is if we had no passionate teachers

BookMeOnTheSudExpress · 03/10/2018 10:52

I think most psychologists would say that psychology was the "science" of the mind.
I'm just a humble English teacher, but thought "neuro-" was the prefix for brainy studies. Wink

NonaGrey · 03/10/2018 10:53

Passion befits parenting, not teaching

I strongly disagree both in terms of memories of my own school days and in terms of what I want for my children.

user1499173618 · 03/10/2018 10:54

Teachers deserve to receive pay and conditions that respect the critical role they ought to be playing in helping to shape human beings. When pay and conditions disrespect the role, people move into the role for the wrong motives (passion).

Sethis · 03/10/2018 10:59

Oh man, nothing makes me laugh more than a non-teacher telling a teacher that calling someone a numpty in a positive and affectionate way is dangerous.

Even better when that same person insists that a teacher shouldn't be passionate, but instead professional. As though it's impossible to be both at the same time.

FWIW, being a professional teacher means getting the best results for the kids under your care. An excellent way to get good results is to have a positive relationship with the kids themselves. An excellent way to have a positive relationship is to use humour in the classroom. Kids find terms like numpty hilarious. Therefore using those terms = good rapport = good results = good teacher.

But don't worry, I'm sure all of us teachers will be replaced soon by computers, so no child will end up being "damaged" by that at all. Nothing could be healthier than a child spending 8 hours per day devoid of any human emotions at all.

My mother is a Clinical Psychologist of 40 years experience and she thinks you're full of crap user756570613579-6157-6516

user1499173618 · 03/10/2018 11:01

There is a world of difference between “humour” and “mockery”.

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