Daughter's teacher called her a numpty

[Ottermum23]

Hi all,
We have a lovely little daughter, in year3.
She is a very enthusiastic learner, who always loved school and loves academic challenges.
This year, she had a new teacher, who is not the nicest, but nevertheless, We thought, just give her the benefit of a doubt.
Our girl been contstantly saying, that the teacher shouts, and today, she said, she called her a numpty, as she accidentally started to do her writing on someone else's book.

I find this very frustrating and just would like to hear others opinions.
Thank you.

Ah user am glad you're back with the research links

User, you're incredibly invested in the Primary Education threads aren't you? For someone who is a "psychologist". I wonder why you have such an interest in reading schemes, the language used in classrooms, times tables etc?

Also, we are still waiting for that research. I can't find any.

Haven't RT all of TT OP, but can see you're getting a lot of abuse for this (actually had to check it wasn't posted in AIBU!).

Ignore the idiots harking back to the days of corporal punishment and severe abuse. What does it matter what was done 30 years ago in the current context?!

If the teacher has a reputation for shouting, and is shouting names at kids that's very unprofessional. Even if the names aren't shouted it's still not exactly best practice.

ProfessorMoody - cognitive psychology and neuroscience are where all the recent and evidence-based research in education is happening. You seem unaware of that, which is a pity since you are clearly very interested in educational practice.

@user you are wrong. There are so many factors to take into account and of course context is key. You're making broad generalisations without the evidence to back them up.

Someone with a doctorate in a related subject would appreciate that and would also be able list a wide range of research at the drop of a hat.

Any form of name calling in a school setting is verbal violence.

“Numpty” is perhaps the equivalent of a tap on the hand with a ruler whereas “idiot” might be the equivalent of a beating. Both are forms of unacceptable language

In your opinion.

I keep having to correct that for you user!

User - as I am currently a classroom teacher, and an adademic on an Education PhD course, I am more than aware of what is current in education.

However, you are dodging the fact that your over-invested interest in primary Ed has nothing to do with your role, and you're ignoring everyone's requests for the research you don't have. What's up with that?

Context is not key any more than it is for corporal punishment.

I genuinely don’t understand why you won’t share the research with us. If, as you say, you are an educator and a researcher, why would you not be jumping at the chance to share your research with us? To educate us? You’ve got a prime opportunity here to maybe start to instigate the change that you think is so desperately needed. Why would you not take that opportunity?

@user Calling someone a numpty and corporal punishment are not comparable.

Why are you ignoring everyone's request for links to the research you have used to inform your opinions? If you're so sure you're right then provide us with the evidence!

I gave my reasons upthread and they certainly haven’t changed since.

Blaa - physical and verbal violence have very similar outcomes on human development.

I think your reasons upthread were that you didn't want to put yourself (although if you had shared at the time you wouldn't have had to declare you were the author ) but if sharing the research is outing that suggests you are the only published academic in this field?

Your reasons for not sharing the research? I must have missed them. Can anyone recap?

Out yourself not put yourself

If your reason is that you don’t want to ‘out’ yourself, is that more important to you than potentially changing the mind of one or more of the teachers on this thread, thus improving the long term outcomes for a number of children?

But this isn't an example of verbal violence.

Your reasons were you didn't want to be identified...so don't link to your own research just link to other research. You are presenting information as fact so if this is true there will be a wide range of related research out there.

Any form of name calling in a school setting is verbal violence.

What rubbish.

How will sharing someone else's research "out" you. You said that this particular research hadn't been written by you.

It's all absolute crap, and we know it.

Blaa - you clearly believe that “numpty” cannot be perceived as denigrating and confidence-sapping.

How would you feel if your child’s teacher called her “stupid”?

It's jokey like silly billy. I think you're looking for something to be angry about.

Your kid was being a bit of a numpty.

Again, context is everything. Where i'm from numpty is a lighthearted phrase. We use it around the house along with silly billy, daft sod, silly sausage....i would use any of those in my teaching practice to emphasis a silly mistake, to ensure a young child didn't worry too much about it but were aware a mistake had taken place.
I have no issue with my son's pre-school using such language. It helps build a rapport and allows children to develop without fear of making mistakes.

The word stupid has a very different meaning and connotation attached to it. The fact you can''t understand that makes me seriously question your credentials.

The lack of any research to back up her assertions makes me really user’s credentials...

Really doubt