Daughter's teacher called her a numpty

[Ottermum23]

Hi all,
We have a lovely little daughter, in year3.
She is a very enthusiastic learner, who always loved school and loves academic challenges.
This year, she had a new teacher, who is not the nicest, but nevertheless, We thought, just give her the benefit of a doubt.
Our girl been contstantly saying, that the teacher shouts, and today, she said, she called her a numpty, as she accidentally started to do her writing on someone else's book.

I find this very frustrating and just would like to hear others opinions.
Thank you.

This real life family needs to know that teachers should not be name calling their students.

Affectionate names and terms of endearment are not name calling

Then what in fresh hell are you going on about?

should not be name calling their students

Do you think it’s acceptable to say what other adults should or should not be doing?

Hate the word numpty - it really irritates me.

Wally is better.

Not sure the teacher should be using either but there you go.

This real life family needs to know that teachers should not be name calling their students. in your opinion You keep missing out these words, user! Glad to be of help

ProfessorMoody - you are clearly very engaged in this debate. Since you are also very engaged with your own professional development, why don’t you do some training about the impact of language and children’s developing self-image?

User my point was that there are a plethora of things it’s appropriate for a teacher to do and say to a child which are not appropriate in reverse.

The fact that it’s inappropriate for a child to call a teacher a numpty is irrelevant to it’s suitability for a teacher to use to a child.

No, Nona. There are labeling terms that are appropriate within families (which are all different) but not in a professional setting where adults in authority pass judgements on children which children are expected to internalize and carry with them. Children are immature humans and cannot be expected to only internalize some judgements and not others.

Op, why would I mock you, I am a foreigner myself, and that's what I would do. with my ds.

But it does explain why user thinks that workplace is endemic because the world doesn’t work as he/she seems to think it should.

^^This

User seems to see all types of "authority" as inherently bad. And appears to think that adults don't need to have any control of the children in their care.

I think authority is good. But it comes with great responsibility, especially when exercised over young children.

Whoops, user. You skipped my question again! You do keep doing that - perhaps something to work on?

why don’t you do some training about the impact of language and children’s developing self-image

I'm the one that does the training in this. HTH

Children are immature humans and cannot be expected to only internalize some judgements and not others.

Actually I have a couple of “immature humans” myself and know lots of others. They’ve all been able to distinguish between the two since they were very young.

Children are immature humans and cannot be expected to only internalize some judgements and not others.

Exactly. And given the word "numpty" is an affectionate word for someone who makes a normal, silly mistake the usage in the classroom was perfectly appropriate. The teacher probably wanted the child to internalise that judgement.

ProfessorMoody - if you PM me a link to your book(s) I’d be very interested, and I’ll send you a PM with mine. Our research and training are clearly very different.

Shocked how this one turned out.

Writing in someone else's book is a silly mistake and the word numpty is entirely appropriate unless there's some drip feed where the OP's dd can't recognize her name or something. Numpty is a gentle and accurate word for a teacher to say. Idiot, stupid, thick, dumbass... is obviously not appropriate.

Mistakes are a learning opportunity. While I understand that there might be an embarrassment angle to this as other people witnessed her making this little mistake, she will get over it and there will be somebody else who screws up the next day. Resilience is a great quality to have as a learner. Explain to your dd that numpty is a mild word and that it's really not a big deal.

Internalizing “numpty” could be devastating.

My...books?

I'm an educator, not a writer.

I don’t understand you then. If you do training, surely it is based on your research?

If you do training, surely it is based on your research?

why on earth would that be the case? Professor has been pretty clear about what her background is and I can’t see how it would involve writing any books...

My research has been based on something entirely different. Training is done on the research of many, many other famous educators, scientists, psychologists and scholars. Why would I need to do something that's already been done?

You do realise that teachers and academics involved in education don't all just come up with something then go and teach it to others?

Internalizing “numpty” could be devastating

I guess if you didn’t know what it meant, but then if we’re assigning random meanings to words then anything could be. But other than that, totally implausible unless someone 8 years later tells them that this is all a form of damaging control over children...

So you deliver training packages?

Was about to write exactly what @professormoody just said.

Academics generally actively research relatively narrow areas but have a broad knowledge of the subject. We teach others people's research not just our own

I'm on the SLT in the school I currently work in, and deliver training according to my specialist subjects, the main one being language and literacy, as well as behaviour management and working with vulnerable children.

As much as this thread has kept me occupied during an extremely boring afternoon, I'm off home now!