Daughter's teacher called her a numpty

[Ottermum23]

Hi all,
We have a lovely little daughter, in year3.
She is a very enthusiastic learner, who always loved school and loves academic challenges.
This year, she had a new teacher, who is not the nicest, but nevertheless, We thought, just give her the benefit of a doubt.
Our girl been contstantly saying, that the teacher shouts, and today, she said, she called her a numpty, as she accidentally started to do her writing on someone else's book.

I find this very frustrating and just would like to hear others opinions.
Thank you.

Some MNers would rather "You've made a mistake there. Next time do this instead...".

That's fine, especially with kids, but in the real world kids will join one day they'll have to deal with fucking up and getting over it. Having over sensitive parents won't help.

In the real world work place bullying is endemic and one of the reasons for that is because people in authority over children have modelled that as a management technique.

I actually dislike the word numpty. It means stupid doesn't it? And therefore not an appropriate term for a teacher to use for a child

KittyVon, why do you think, that being a Tiger Mum can cause damage?

Personally, I think this is a great opportunity for foreign parents to help their children in English. When the child got upset by the word "numpty", instead of getting upset together, you can look it up together.
Sure, straight forward meaning is "unwise/absent minded", but there are other meaning, as " A good humoured admonition, a term of endearment". I will look up "admonition" and "endearment" as well, since it must be a new vocabulary for dc.

Irvine, I hope you aren't mocking me

OP, I think that you think "Tiger Mum" means that you care about your child, support them and want the best for them. That is just being a normal parent.

A Tiger Mum is strict or demanding parenting. Tiger parents push and pressure their children to attaining high levels of scholastic and academic achievement, using authoritarian parenting methods The term was coined by Yale law professor Amy Chua in 2011.

If you can't see why strict or demanding parenting, push and pressure in regards to attainment and authoritarian parenting, all combined can cause damage to a young person, then you have proved my point.

Agree with Kitty. Totally.

Numpty is endearing. We also use wally and twerp with our kids. And also plank.. They howl with laughter when we say it. It's never done in a horrid way,merely when they are being...well numptys . My son is one of the most sensitive kids I know,and does not remotely find this offensive. ( Side note he is that sensitive he cried when he saw a snail on its own, because he thought it didn't have a family... )

Numpty, wally, twerp, plank are all terms that may have a place within a family relationship. They have no place at all in professional relationships. A good rule of thumb is to ask whether it would be appropriate for a student to call their teacher a numpty. No? Then the reverse is also true.

Trying to shut down other people by denigrating them is precisely the topic of this thread. Some posters are of the opinion that that is acceptable behaviour. I am not of that opinion.
Pot
Kettle
Black.

User, you are the one trying to "denigrate" other posters for their opinions. If you had stated all the way through that these are your opinions only, then you wouldn't get people's backs up. But you haven't and have written them as if they are fact, using your 'unspecified job' as some sort of warped proof.

You may well have experience with older teenagers in some capacity but it would get your point across much better if you dropped the holier than thou attitude and didn't keep contradicting yourself.

Where have I name called or denigrated a poster?

Some of the children I've taught have called me a "silly Billy" if I've done something silly. I welcome it - shows I'm human, which reinforces a safe and comfortable relationship.

Gosh, for a psychologist, you really don't know much about it, do you?

A good rule of thumb is to ask whether it would be appropriate for a student to call their teacher a numpty

Is this for real? Dows this mean that it would also have to be appropriate for a student to tell their teacher that something was disappointing or unacceptable? Or ask them to stop talking over them? Or any of the other things that a teacher has to say all the time?

We are definitely being had on now.

They have no place at all in professional relationships in my opinion

There. Fixed that for you.

Side note he is that sensitive he cried when he saw a snail on its own, because he thought it didn't have a family...

This is the cutest thing I have ever heard. Please tell me the snail came home with you to live out its days in the bosom of your family?

A good rule of thumb is to ask whether it would be appropriate for a student to call their teacher a numpty.

Would it be appropriate for a child to tell a teacher he/she was cheeky?

Would it be appropriate for a child to criticise a teacher for talking during class?

Would it be appropriate for for a child to criticise a teacher’s clothes or appearance?

Would it be appropriate for for a child to criticise a teacher’s behaviour?

And etc.

I presume you get the point?

Teachers and children are not peers therefore reversing the interaction is a fairly meaningless method of assessing suitability.

ProfessorMoody - name calling in a professional context is not a sign of a safe and comfortable relationship.

@namechange we walked the streets until we found another snail to put it with
He also brought in a damp butterfly once and sat for half hour gently blowing its wings to dry it off,then let it go back outside. He's a real beauty 😁

Where have I name called or denigrated a poster?

Weird. I didn't say you name called. You said I was denigrating you, which I wasn't but you thought I did. Just like other posters think you are denigrating them, but you don't think you are, as I pointed out.

You know exactly what you are writing user and I think you find it all rather entertaining. The problem is that this topic is actually about a real life family and can cause them issues if the wrong thing is said.

name calling in a professional context is not a sign of a safe and comfortable relationship

Completely depends on the name and the type of calling, actually.

Affectionate names and terms of endearment are beneficial to building relationships for a lot of people.

Amateur

Teachers and children are not peers therefore reversing the interaction is a fairly meaningless method of assessing suitability.

But it does explain why user thinks that workplace is endemic because the world doesn’t work as he/she seems to think it should.

NonaGrey - the issue here is vocabulary. And no, cheeky is not OK.

He's a real beauty he sounds adorable

Affectionate names and terms of endearment are not name calling.