Daughter's teacher called her a numpty

[Ottermum23]

Hi all,
We have a lovely little daughter, in year3.
She is a very enthusiastic learner, who always loved school and loves academic challenges.
This year, she had a new teacher, who is not the nicest, but nevertheless, We thought, just give her the benefit of a doubt.
Our girl been contstantly saying, that the teacher shouts, and today, she said, she called her a numpty, as she accidentally started to do her writing on someone else's book.

I find this very frustrating and just would like to hear others opinions.
Thank you.

Namechange, you are right, explaining would have been patrionizing. But it was no need for explanation, as you said, just a lack of attention momentarily.

My problem with this scenario is, that the teacher is not a friend, or a family member, who can just "laugh off" stuff with the pupils.
Don't know what would been better, maybe just point child to the right direction...

And, no her name is not Isla☺️

That’s one aspect. But no aspect whatsoever is having your parents pay someone to tell you that it’s not your fault you didn’t get good GCSEs (or whatever I don’t know where in the world you are) because the teachers were mean and nasty and were too busy trying to control you (by being totally normal caring teachers) to understand how super special and sensitive you are. Unless they are prepared to pay someone to do that until you retirement which I guess is one solution.

And, no her name is not Isla☺️

Dammit! I was hungry too!

Your daughter sounds super conscientious so I am sure as soon as she realised what she did she would have been back on track. As long as she knows we all zone out every now and then and it’s absolutely no big deal. She will pick up the wrong book again in the future, in the same way as she will (one day) lock her keys inside the car, go to work with odd shoes on and completely forget her own name in a conversation. We can all be dopey!

NameChange - please stop imagining what I do. You have imagined something entirely fictitious.

Yeah, she is. She wants to do well, and she is a real people-pleaser.

Of course, she will make millions of mistakes in a future, but how will she deal w them, is certainly can be improved.

However, I think, talking to 16-21 years olds, or primary school students, should be two completely different things

Well that depends if it's a 'ooooh you numpty' in a calm voice or an angry 'YOU NUMPTY'

Blaa - we actually agree. My point is that there are far too many people who go into teaching not to share their knowledge but to teach. They make terrible teachers because they don’t have enough subject knowledge and then they get waylaid by all sorts of bizarre, unproven teaching practices in order to justify their status as teachers.

NameChange - please stop imagining what I do. You have imagined something entirely fictitious

Fair enough but you haven’t told us so we’re all going to give it a go as it seems a lot like a parallel universe. After all OP didn’t say how far off I was with Isla so I might have been in with a chance!

Anyway I don’t have to do your job and you are happy that you are helping and not hindering so it really doesn’t matter.

But for primary school teaching passion is vitally important. Passion for a subject doesn't really work in that respect.

It’s a friendly word. No issues.

I disagree about primary school teaching. The very best primary school teachers I have come across are those who have a really good subject background and want to share it with developinh humans because, as adults, they measure its contribution to their well being. The least good ones are the ones whose main motivation is being around small children.

Some of the best teachers I've come across have been those who actually care about their learners, not the ones with incredible "subject knowledge", which isn't really required in Primary school teaching, as we teach many, many subjects.

Some of the very worst teachers I have come across profess so much care for their learners that they don’t actually impart knowledge at all, for fear it might be too difficult.

You seem to be equating passion with a lack of knowledge. The two aren't mutually exclusive. If your motivation is to just work with young children then you aren't right for teaching. I'm not talking about being passionate about spending time with children. It's about a passion for teaching - and all that entails ( which includes high level knowledge of subject and pedagogical approaches)

Does passion for teaching equal a lack of subject knowledge? Surely a teacher can have both?

You have a very old-fashioned and outdated view of education User.

Shame your own didn't teach you the difference between psychology and neuro-sciences.

What with the words being a bit pertinent to what you say you do and all.

It's on the tip of my tongue that's for sure.

I’m not a previously banned poster so obviously not the person you are thinking of.

I’m not sure what you find incongruous about knowing about reading acquisition and working with 16-21 year olds. The two are happily mutually compatible and feed into one another.

Blaa - I repeat, we do not disagree. But “passion for teaching” all too often prioritises teaching over any very secure and meaningful subject knowledge at all.

No, wolfiefan, I don't make a fuss over nothing. not at all.

I beg to differ, OP, as is very evident by all your posts on this thread. Tiger Mum is not a badge of honour at all. In fact, it can cause more ‘damage’ to a young person than the word ‘numpty’ on its own, despite what our resident expert psychologist says on this thread.

There are plenty of conflicting opinions within psychology
So psychology is about opinion, you say, user? And even “psychologists” would disagree with you, therefore? Got it

All bodies of knowledge have different currents of opinion.

All bodies of knowledge have different currents of opinion.

Yes, exactly. So stop spouting your nonsense as if it is fact.

despite what our resident expert psychologist says on this thread

Trying to shut down other people by denigrating them is precisely the topic of this thread. Some posters are of the opinion that that is acceptable behaviour. I am not of that opinion.