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Serial, long-term bullying of 5 children by one girl over 3 years - what should school be doing?

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PrincessPeaHead · 03/05/2007 10:46

I would really appreciate your thoughts. This is incredibly long, but it is a really long running saga.

There is a girl in DDs year 4 group, let's call her Anna. She arrived in Year 2, was put in the other class to DD. I immediately started hearing stories about how she was being nasty to various girls, but especially to Bella. DD didn't have much to do with her because she was in a different class. In year 3 DD was also in a different class to Anna, and I heard she was still nasty and now also bullying Clare and Dora, who were in her class. I regularly asked DD if Anna was "behaving nicely" towards her, to be told that DD tried not to have much to do with her, that she kept her head down, but was told all the terrible things she had done and said to B, C, D and others.

Beginning of Year 4 I find out htat DD has been put in A's class, and there are only 5 girls out of a class of 14. I have a meeting with the HeadMaster about something or other and I also say "DD is very concerned about being in A's class, it is well known that she has been bullying lots of people, I am unhappy that it hasn't been resolved, keep an eye on it". He assures me that a very close eye is being kept on the situation.

Anyway DD goes off for a 3 day school trip this weekend. On picking her up from the bus on Sunday she is in floods. We put her to bed thinking she is knackered. Monday am she is sobbing, saying she doesn't want to go to school, she is tired. I keep her off school and she sleeps until 10.30am. Tuesday she is sobbing, says she doesn't want to go to school - and I finally winkle out of her that it is because she doesn't want to see A who has been verbally abusing her for 2 years, but is particularly bad this term. Every time she sees her she calls her a pig, a loser, ugly, nobody likes her, etc etc etc.

Anyway I have since found out that child B's parents complained three times in years 2 and 3, were told it was being "dealt with", and the bullying stopped so they left it. Child C's parents complained 3 times in Year 3, were told it was being dealt with, the bullying slowed down, and they left it. Child D's parents complained 2ce in Year 3, once in Year 4, she ws told that the parents were being called in and it was being dealt with so they left it.
It appears it is now DD's turn. I am NOT LEAVING IT. I have asked for her immediate suspension, her return on a one-strike-you-are-out basis, a full review of all the policies and guidelines etc, an anti-bullying day or programme, staff training etc. And I've sent copies of correspondence to the board of governors.

My questions (finally) - what is best practice in this situation? How should the school have handled these various complaints? What is it reasonable for me to expect the school to have done? As far as I can see the Headmaster has not been involved at all - complaints have all been made to various teachers and the Head of Lower School, the Head has not spoken to the child although teachers have, and I think the parents were called in to the Head of Lower School.

I expect I'll have a meeting with HM tomorrow or monday - what can I legitimately tell him would have been done in a school operating approved bullying policies to a best practice standard?

If you've got this far I'm extremely impressed and grateful
xx

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Megglevache · 03/05/2007 16:54

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annh · 03/05/2007 18:15

Well done pph, you may be welling up at the kindness and support of Mumsnet, but I am sitting at work welling up at your poor dd (and all the others before her) who have had to put up with Anna's bullying. The world needs more people who can stand up and protect their children in a calm and logical fashion!

PrincessPeaHead · 03/05/2007 19:15

thanks
it is terrible isn't it

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percypig · 03/05/2007 19:37

Well done PPH, read your post with the letter in it yesterday, and this thread and you are dealing with this really well.

It's appalling that the school seems to ignore the anti-bullying policy and sweep things under the carpet. Hope the situation is resolved soon. Your DD sounds lovely btw, being excited by the 'code'!

1dilemma · 03/05/2007 21:19

This sounds awful!
Poor dd pph.
I agree with expat here and applaud you for trying to help the school see the need to sort it out but not sure how much success they'll have!
Also it seems to me that the only time people have really stopped the bullying is when the parents have made it clear to the bully 'on the side' that it will stop!
Good luck

pinknfluffy29 · 03/05/2007 23:24

oh dear i feel for pph minor!!! i am a school governor and my advice would be what you are doing - push it to the governors - we have more clout when it comes to these types of issues especially if the hm is not following the policies which are in place and revised annually. if the governors are just yes people to the hm take it to the LA. get all parents to make diaries of bullying and to keep on at the HM - this is such a big thing that can affect the rest of these girls' lives!!!

we are dealing with a bullying case at the moment but its staff bullying staff which i find absolutely ludicrous in an infant school.

good luck i hope you get it sorted!!!

Wotzsaname · 04/05/2007 00:06

It is very sad. My dd has been bullied n Primary.

The school have only taken how serious and manipulative the bully is when things escalated recently and DH and I, went ot see Head.

Started with small things (reported to each year teacher) and has got worse each year. Went to see Head about 2 months ago, whos response was very good and things have been better. Good that you are stepping in early.

However, I know you want to help all the dc involved, but I would not take on everyone elses responsibility in a mob handed way. Some folk are odd and may not see what you see as any bother (hard to believe, but I found this to be true).

And as for the bully - I told my dd that the bully was probably sad at home and maybe her home was a sad place to be and that is why she was angry when she came to school. However, that was not my dd's fault, and my dd should not have to put up with it.

SSSandy2 · 04/05/2007 08:33

wow pph I think you're handling it in a very strong way. I'm a bit in awe of you for that. Hope it goes well, sounds like a horrible situation. I haven't heard of our particular school ever doing more than saying they're keeping an eye on things. We have a problem dc in the class but he is physically violent and apparently it's been a problem since he was 2 and nothing has ever been done about it, he's 7 now.

Enid · 04/05/2007 09:43

lots of love pph

hope you do something lovely and spoiling with your dd this weekend

xx

NoodleStroodle · 04/05/2007 09:54

This is such an interesting thread - we have an Anna too and she takes her turn around the girls and like previous poster said bullies them for half a term, then draws them back in and then starts on them again a few weeks later. PPH you have done a good thing especially with everything else going on.

PrincessPeaHead · 04/05/2007 10:15

thanks everybody. luckily every single mother I have spoken to is absolutely on side and cheering. they are also allr writing their own letters to hm and governors.

that is six of us so far

apparently teachers are running around like headless chickens interviewing children and parents. good.

enid - my birthday tomorrow so BIG CAKE. and north somerset show on monday. whooo hoooo!

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expatinscotland · 04/05/2007 10:16

It'll have to be a pretty large cake to accommodate all the candles PPH is going to need.

I'll send you a pair of Crocs for your birthday .

WanderingTrolley · 04/05/2007 10:17

That's great news pph, all credit to you.

Little pph v lucky girl.

Have great birthday and enjoy your cake.

Enid · 04/05/2007 10:17

pph email me your address please

PrincessPeaHead · 04/05/2007 11:54

orange ones please expat. I think they look So chic

only 38 candles (gulp)

it is nice being married to someone 6 years older though, I always feel like a spring chicken next tohim

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expatinscotland · 04/05/2007 11:55

Aw, I was thinking gold.

Or chartreuse.

batters · 04/05/2007 14:54

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littlemissbossy · 04/05/2007 16:31

Great news that you've got other parents on side PPH.
Have a nice birthday BTW and [ahem] there's nothing wrong with being 38

MaloryTowers · 04/05/2007 18:56

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foxinsocks · 05/05/2007 08:41

Happy Birthday pph!

oliveoil · 09/05/2007 09:11

any updates PPH?

x

PrincessPeaHead · 09/05/2007 20:26

hi OO
well things are moving along. parents have been called in, emotional meeting, HM made the decision not to suspend but leaving option open for the future. says he's complied with policies, ha.
parents of 5 bullied children and me pretty amazed. he offered me a meeting this coming friday to discuss (he's away for a few days this week), I've accepted and told him that all the other parents are coming too.
governor then phoned me, governor phoned him, I got a very nice, informative, concerned email from HM COMPLETELY unlike the toys out of the pram arse covering initial letter, so am now slightly hopeful that we will be able to have a constructive meeting on friday.

Also all of that year group called to a meeting, told there was bullying going on, unacceptable, they didn't have to take it, could very firmly tell the bully they didn't like what they were saying, could report it to any staff or leave a note on x teacher's or HM's desk. Were told that bully was being closely watched and was on a HM detention (3 hours in his study on a wednesday, missing matches). So children feeling relieved and happier at least. My DD positively high with relief when she came home from school yesterday.

Bully acting up terribly, getting into trouble with teachers 5-8 times a day, clearly a troubled child.

That's it so far. Its been a bad week so far (with my friend who has had a brain tumour diagnosed) - all in all I just want to weep into a gin and go to sleep

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oliveoil · 09/05/2007 20:39

well that sounds positive, well done

have you seen/heard anything from her parents, she defintely needs some form of help

at your friend, I didn't know (have you a thread?)

gin and sleep sound good

xx

PrincessPeaHead · 09/05/2007 21:01

yes we are getting there I think
not going to speak to parents until after friday if at all, we'll see

thread on my friend here

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1dilemma · 09/05/2007 22:50

Please do update us after Friday I was wondering how you and dd were getting on. You have handled this well and it my help others in the future to see what happens.