Our primary school says if children need medicine at specific times 'pop' in & DIY

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Surely this penalises busy working parents, with occupations where they can't just 'pop' in? Or a parent who simply has other pressing commitments..

Can schools actually do this? They seem to be negating their responsibilities towards providing education and support for children with long term medical conditions that require regular medication.

What, arguing endlessly with strangers on the internet?

zzzzz
I meant OP.

And it depenss on what we're going on as medicine.
My.friend had a request for staff to make up a soluable Echinacea drink for a child because they had 'immune issues' - v different to 'child has ongoing medical needs and requires x y z as part of their care plan'.

There's a big DfE thing on supportinf pupils who have medical conditions but whether "dc has a cold so give them calpol" comes under that is something our first aid team deals.with, but I would imagine not. I've known some schools not administer calpol but are happy to store a preloaded syringe for a child to take themselves.

Without knowing the school's full policy nobody can say if a school is out of order. Either way, generalisations are unhelpful

Passes the time when you are immuno compromised and incapacitated from side effects, Suburban.

There's a big DfE thing on supportinf pupils who have medical conditions but whether "dc has a cold so give them calpol" comes under that is something our first aid team deals.with, but I would imagine not. I've known some schools not administer calpol but are happy to store a preloaded syringe for a child to take themselves.

I clarified earlier that I really am not concerned over a bit of Calpol.

Well it would certainly wear me out to keep repeating myself for fifteen pages and still not be able to make it clear what the point of the thread is.

zzzzz you appear to have so much fear over what I have posted on Mumsnet. If I am so obviously in the wrong, as you and other posters have been at pains to point out, why would you even be bothered?

So then I take it you have spoken to the school about a child's specific medical needs, sought clarification, found systemic issues in that school and are deciding to formally complain.

If it's a big enough issue to be so wound up on here making unreasonable sweeping generalisations then (at least to me) it must surely be a big enough issue to take every step in the complaints procedure to ensure it is put right.

fear?

Where did you get that from? I’m kind of in awe of how doggedly you’ve posted, or I would be if any of it had moved the discussion along in any way.

So then I take it you have spoken to the school about a child's specific medical needs, sought clarification,

No.

found systemic issues in that school and are deciding to formally complain.

There were other issues within that school that I brought to light. Following this some teachers, rather rapidly, 'moved on'. All the issues were eventually resolved. Although this took some time.

I think you do real damage with threads like this

It’s not a benign pastime.

These comments denote fear.

Are you expecting people to be impressed that you were instrumental in getting teachers to leave their jobs? You sound like the worst kind of nightmare parent.

Do you like to think people are afraid of you, OP?

Denote fear? WTF are you on about?

When I was at school, and I believe the school still has the policy in place now, the office staff were trained to give medicine. If you needed medicine at specific times you were sent to the office for your medicine and the office staff administered it and signed it off. There were always at least 2 in the office, usually 3 or 4 including receptionist, secretary, administration etc.
Surely this, if willing, would negate the issue of other children suffering.

There were always at least 2 in the office, usually 3 or 4 including receptionist, secretary, administration etc.

Things have changed quite a bit since the halcyon days of over-staffed school offices!

Do you like to think people are afraid of you, OP?

No, not especially. It can make things awkward. Elephant in the room kind of thing. Squirming. It feels lonely too. However I had to advocate for my child so I had no choice but to take the actions I did and succeed. Which happened. All I want is for schools to make the provision they are bound by law to do, though.

It’s not the law, as someone pointed out upthread - page 2 I think.

To be frank I think you are feeding on that pain and disquiet, and the upset caused to teachers and parents by your thread. It was a difficult time. A time I don’t like to revisit. I am forever grateful to the staff at my children’s school for stepping forwards to help my family. How much much worse it all would have been if we had been at loggerheads with them.

No I certainly am not. I do get fired up, though, because I have successfully fought similar injustices. I had to fight inadequate provision for my child at their school. Your child received good provision for which you are grateful. We have different experiences and our different attitudes towards teachers being somewhat defensive reflect this. I am grateful to some lovely supportive teachers but certainly not towards others who were quite frankly obstructive.

It’s not the law, as someone pointed out upthread - page 2 I think.

Individual teaching staff may not not have any legal obligations in this area but schools certainly do. Yawn. This also was established pages earlier.

Tldr; as in all walks of life, some people are better at their jobs than others.

Thanks, OP - it’s been real.

Well then ditto, zzzzz. I get it. You don't like me.