Our primary school says if children need medicine at specific times 'pop' in & DIY

[wonkywillow]

Surely this penalises busy working parents, with occupations where they can't just 'pop' in? Or a parent who simply has other pressing commitments..

Can schools actually do this? They seem to be negating their responsibilities towards providing education and support for children with long term medical conditions that require regular medication.

[wonkywillow]

Apology accepted, zzzzz.

Maybe everything else is just lost in translation. It is like we are speaking different languages. It has left me questioning my ability to understand plain English. That's from someone who studied English Literature and Language, to degree level, including translating Medieval texts and a year doing linguistics. As well as some one who has taught English. I've also had articles published.

[wonkywillow]

Have you a huge number of examples of them doing anything else in, say, the last 5 to 10 years?

There are examples referenced in this thread. One example is too many.

[wonkywillow]

No it wasn’t, but there’s very little I can do if you feel it was.

Classic non apologetic language, 'Sorry you feel...' You are not sorry for anything you said. You are sorry that something occurred that you think is my fault. However I don't just feel it. It is plain to interpret and I'm not the only one who has picked up on this.

[wonkywillow]

please stick to the point.

Which point would that be, zzzzz?

[wonkywillow]

...in my experience this is not a problem in school and if it ever was there are lots of avenues to correct any shortfall, but the care is good. I’d say really good.

If you'd only said this with, perhaps, the reasoning behind why you think this, yes, you would have been perfectly respectful.

Added to this, some schools doing this well shows that schools abiding by the law, in terms of making provision for administering medication is not impossible. This is what I want schools to do, albeit I want them to do this openly also. This is what the campaign I linked to upthread calls for.

There would be no argument, at all, if all schools do as you say they are doing zzzzz.

[wonkywillow]

zzzzz I think you are being disingenuous. Playing the innocent just does not wash.

Constantly dismissing my comments with, 'I have no idea what you are on about'. Writing that sharing what your impression of my posts 'would not be particularly helpful' suggests something rude and derogatory. Frequently posting confused emojis as a response to my posts which are written in a pretty straightforward and clear manner. Swapping grinning emojis with other posters who write lengthy posts criticising me, speculating on my character and intentions. Questioning my ability to focus in this context also comes across as derogatory.

All the above is intended to be hurtful.

[t1mum3]

zzzz - I really don't understand your persistence in insisting that because your child with medical needs is OK, there isn't a wider problem, and not being willing to appreciate that there might. I don't understand why you are being so aggressive to the OP - is there some history I am missing?

Long and short - some schools get it right, but other schools aren't prepared to meet their responsibilities for whatever reason. It doesn't need to be a personal debate and no reason for anyone to get offended by this fact being raised for discussion.

[wonkywillow]

zzzz now, I think you are just trying to be hurtful. Quite frankly this baffles me. What have I actually done to you?

[wonkywillow]

Takes a lot to get a good thorough ECHP, Sirzy. I applied for my own DC's Statement myself and got it with a significant amount of funding. Much of the provision was written directly from the initial report I had written to supplement the application - same wording. Not every parent is aware they can do this or is actually able to do this, though. I think my teacher training helped although I did not disclose my training at the school.

[Sirzy]

My area has just been osfteded for the sen provision and have been completely ripped to shreds one of the big issues they pulled up was the awful quality for ehcps

[wonkywillow]

That would require proper costed provision mapping, zzzzz.....

[wonkywillow]

When I meant if you want people to have a wider understanding, zzzzz. You don't have to read or post on here either. I was thankful for your post but there was no requirement for you to share what you did, either. It is easy to hide threads. Some people do actually want to talk, though. I do want to talk on here occasionally, myself about my experiences positive and more negative. You still seem to be reacting rather defensively to what I write in my posts, zzzzz. Initial impressions, it would seem, take a lot of shifting.

[Norestformrz]

"EHCP brings the money INTO the school though, so you WOULDNT be borrowing from departmental budgets." Not quite true EHCP often have funding attached (not always) but often it isn't adequate to cover the cost of support necessary.

[wonkywillow]

But the EHCP never covers the full costs of what is needed usually. Most children with a statement/EHCP require one to one TA, so it has to pay for that for a start.

My child's Statement did, Tufted. It was more than enough. The funding ended up not even being spent on my child, at all, for a few years before the Statement was eventually ceased. Added to this children can have medical needs without any other additional learning needs. Type 1 diabetes, for example, with no additional learning needs.

[TuftedLadyGrotto]

But the EHCP never covers the full costs of what is needed usually. Most children with a statement/EHCP require one to one TA, so it has to pay for that for a start.

[wonkywillow]

We share the concerns and what helps because WHO ELSE understands?

If you want wider understanding, though, zzzzz being able to have discussions with a wider group of people does help, though. I thought your sharing of how it felt to have your child's medical needs catered for by the school particularly helpful in terms of understanding how parents actually feel when it does work. It helped me understand the protectiveness some so obviously feel towards schools and their staff. Before I was a bit baffled by this tbh. I understand too why people don't always feel like sharing though. Although I think it is easier on here because you can dip in and out of discussions.