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Shocked at DS's teacher this week!

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WellThisIsShit · 06/10/2017 23:04

She made a mess of something last week, which I did mention (politely!) in an email in which I was covering a couple of other unrelated things.

I then found out that lots of parents were 'up in arms' about the problem and there'd been multiple complaints, from individual parents and group complaints. Plus an angry exchange on Monday morning in the play ground, when a parent went in full throttle, and the teacher reacted in kind. All of which was inflamed by the teacher making it clear she hadn't got a clue what the issue was, or even what the parent was talking about at all.

Anyway, big furore and much concern that the teacher isn't up to the job (I'm glad I wasn't at the school gates this week!).

The wider context is that this teacher is coming into a challenging situation and is under the microscope, as she was parachuted in two days before the start of term after another teacher left the school in a fix when they pulled out with no notice. So, ht did a lot of classroom/ teacher shuffling and DS year ended up with this completely new teacher, who is very newly qualified, and has never taught in the uk before (or lived here actually). The school is really demanding and I have often mused that the poor teachers must have to be excellent, every single day, just to keep up - utterly exhausting to think about! Also the parents are err, well, they are much more involved than alot of schools, I think, and they expect to be listened to more as well.

So, anyway, it was all a bit heated and some of the parents were gearing up to a vote of no confidence in this teacher.

All made worse by the teacher responding ineptly showing her inexperience at handling parents... being confrontational, refusing to back down on things that she really shouldn't have chosen to make a stand about, being patently untrue and embarrassing to watch unfold (like the time when she decided to be firm and immovable that there was no one of x name in her class when grandparents did the pick up, and of course everyone watching was aware that x was been in that class for the last 3yrs and was in fact clearly there! Utter cringe my awful moment!), etc etc.

So basically, situation going nuclear fast argh!

So, I was completely shocked to get a sensible, well thought out response to my email, explaining her rationale at some points, and openly taking on my thoughts at others. Admitted she'd got the particular thing X wrong, and why, and how she was moving on from it... and according to other parents who are more tapped into this stuff than me, the teacher has responded in that same way to all the other complaints too, written and also verbal, meeting parents etc.

Basically, I'm really impressed.

Takes a big person to come back from this. And tbh, I wasn't expecting it!

So really, I wanted to share it on here and do a little private cheer for her :)

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pictish · 07/10/2017 10:13

OP I understood that you were cheering the teacher on. If I were you I'd just let this thread drift now. x

user789653241 · 07/10/2017 10:14

Yes, I have read the whole thread, and I do agree that some comments are very mean and nasty.
That's why I commented right before your second post.
But retaliating to the nasty comment by nasty comment, I think you are pouring rocket fuel to the already uncontrollable flaming fire, don't you think?

Neverknowing · 07/10/2017 10:16

Wow how horrible of those women. That's so sad the poor teacher.
People make mistakes, teachers are people.
I really despise people like this who try and ruin someone's whole career on one mistake?! If she was fired do you think she would be hired again easily? They probably don't think about that do they, just causing drama Angry
The head should stick up for her teachers and tell the parents to butt out.

pictish · 07/10/2017 10:18

Not from OP Kitty. Sad

Anasnake · 07/10/2017 10:19

You should have named the thread 'impressed by ds teacher' as 'shocked' just makes it sound like you totally believed all the crap you'd been hearing.

KittyVonCatsington · 07/10/2017 10:19

So I don't understand how you know everything that is going in then, OP? Confused

DuchessofManchester · 07/10/2017 10:19

should I have to sit and take it all when people are calling me such vile and unjustifiable things irony it's a wonderful thing.

Maverick66 · 07/10/2017 10:20

Poor teacher.

WellThisIsShit · 07/10/2017 10:23

Thanks pictish, random and mylittledragon.

Nuance and anything that isn't bad guys vs hero/victim isn't really coming over now people have done the usual pile on.

Yes, I am concerned the teacher is too inexperienced to deal with this situation. That isn't any kind of mortal insult! And yes, I do think her newness to the uk culture is part of that inexperience. And I say that as someone who's done alot of work around the world and have got a fistful of 'cultural fuckup' stories from my youth! I'm more concerned actually though that she's not been trained with the uk education system in mind, which is a nightmare. I don't know much about the political landscape in her home country, but do know that there won't be such an obsession with politicic point scoring via schools and teaching. The political and social-economic context is really difficult to negotiate, and yes, it will be increasing the difficulty of the role she's just been jumped into.

Personally I'd have positioned her as a temporary teacher to take the pressure off her in the early weeks and then said with delight 'we're so happy that ms x has accepted our offer to stay with is etc etc etc. However, as I'm not a ht, I'm presumably ignorant to any pit falls with that approach, me being well, err, inexperienced myself!

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Appuskidu · 07/10/2017 10:23

OMG-that poor teacher. Lucky the resignation date is at the end of the month-I hope she leaves.

Scabbersley · 07/10/2017 10:24

Jesus.

Has it ever occurred to you that you might be overthinking this OP?

Mrskeats · 07/10/2017 10:25

This is why teachers are quitting the profession
Would you like a person with no experience commenting on how you do your job op? (if you have one)
Have you an idea what teachers get subjected to every day?
Get a life.

WellThisIsShit · 07/10/2017 10:25

Yes I agree ana, I was trying to be humourous... Big fat fail I'd say there!

TBH it never crossed my mind people would think anyone could possibly endorse the situation, let alone decide to write a post on here endorsing any of it! But we live and learn...

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viques · 07/10/2017 10:25

to be fair OP, you didnot initially mention that your email was (mostly) about your child's health, you said it was about a "mess" the teacher had made and other unrelated issues as well so it did sound as though you were one of those keyboard warrior parents. Clearly by your subsequent posts you are not, but I think people took your original post at face value (how else).

I think too that your later expressed admiration for the way the teacher dealt with the emails she has had from the parents got missed in the mix. If you had started with praising her resilience instead of focussing on the shit storm she has had to endure you might have got less stick.

Appuskidu · 07/10/2017 10:27

I was just thinking about this thread:-

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I wonder what would happen in such a situation if the teacher in front of the class hadn't got a degree or any teacher training. With parents like this, I can't begin to imagine what it would look like.

Scabbersley · 07/10/2017 10:28

So you are saying you hate the parental shit storm yourself but are seriously questioning her ability to do the job by sending well meaning emails?

It's PRIMARY school. If little Johnny is bored for 5 minutes it won't kill him. Lighten up

MissPricklePants · 07/10/2017 10:30

Poor teacher. I'm a primary teacher and deal with some nightmare parents. The bullying ones are immediately banned from the premises and cannot enter the playground, supportive head will handle them. Vote of no confidence?! Ridiculous! She wouldn't be doing the job if the head didn't feel she was right. Let the woman teach and leave her alone. Teaching is hard enough without a group of parents who generally have no idea how to teach 30 children spouting off bullying nonsense!

FritzDonovan · 07/10/2017 10:32

you're not necessarily going to be great or even good at your chosen career, whatever that is.
True, but how many of those ppl who aren't great at their job have to put up with a mob of strangers behaving publicly like this towards them at their place of work? It's disgraceful behavior. Parents should deal with issues themselves instead of gossiping and having a 'vote of no confidence', and through the teacher's line manager if it is a serious issue.

MyOtherProfile · 07/10/2017 10:32

Personally I'd have positioned her as a temporary teacher to take the pressure off her in the early weeks and then said with delight 'we're so happy that ms x has accepted our offer to stay

Most parents would be concerned about this as they hate the idea of a temp teacher who could thrn be replaced by another teacher without continuity so im not sure many schools would have done that.

viques · 07/10/2017 10:33

Sorry, using shit storm in a general way, no implication attached to your name.

Appuskidu · 07/10/2017 10:39

She made a mess of something last week

lots of parents were 'up in arms' about the problem

she hadn't got a clue what the issue was

this teacher is coming into a challenging situation

What exactly has this poor woman supposed to have done wrong in the eyes of this mob?

WellThisIsShit · 07/10/2017 10:43

No scabbers that's not what I'm saying. My email was on other topics, and, I just happened to mention the issue that them became this god awful mess! I didn't mention it as a criticism or as a nasty jibe or whatever everyone's decided, as it was in the context of my son's situation. I had no idea of the shit storm brewing!

And to the poster who's insistently asking how I got to hear of it, a play date, and on pick up it was referenced, I looked blank then was filled in about it. Is that ok?

I guess I made a mistake trying to explain it from the beginning as I'd heard it, and not being clear about where I fitted in, but for the third and final time, I had no idea anyone would decide I was not just in on it but apparently one of the main protagonists in a lynch mob! Which was responded to by, lyching me on here... for fucks sake! And oh the irony as I was actually expecting a few posts saying 'God that sounds awful', and me asking if I should stand back, or step in by contacting the ht or whether that could make it worse...

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WellThisIsShit · 07/10/2017 10:47

Yeah irvine you're right. I've seen it on here before where a thread turns into an excuse for people to work off their frustrations, and watched as the OP cracks and then gets jumped on more for daring to push back against the reactions. But it's rather difficult not to do that, I find out!

Ah well, like pictish suggests, I'll stop fanning the flames.

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