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Y6 Sats results - are they out yet?

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Hottoday · 04/07/2015 08:19

Wondering if schools will have received them yet?

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var123 · 10/07/2015 11:07

I always think it hypocritical when people have no problem going on about how well their Dc plays a certain sport, or how artistic they are, how they can sing or dance etc.

There's no problem whatsoever with expecting me to sit through numerous sports days hoping that DS won't cry in front of everyone else if he comes last in everything, or endless hours of my life celebrating other people's children's musical talents, and applauding yet anther interpretative dance routine that my children wouldn't have the courage to do in a million years.

Yet, when it comes to the thing that my children are good at - academic things - suddenly people think I should not mention it lest they feel bad on behalf of their kids.

AntiquityIsDotDotDot · 10/07/2015 11:07

It's the same tedious bullshit on here year after year. I guess the years ds2 does his SATs I'll be allowed to talk and worry about it on a thread because given his autism whatever passes for a level 6 in the new system may be out of his reach.

It's all about children achieving their potential. We're supposed to be on the same side, but apparently this doesn't include those children capable of achieving highly. Fuck them, they're just hot housed children of the middle classes, even when they're not.

var123 · 10/07/2015 11:08

Ah I get it. I shouldn't be allowed to worry whether ds gets a level 6 or not because it's above average despite it being just as hard for him as someone else managing to achieve a 4 or 5? Despite, the way the system is set up, it reduces expectation further down the line for him?
^this

AntiquityIsDotDotDot · 10/07/2015 11:13

Good point var123 ds1 constantly fails to get good roles in drama, is not good at music, so far has failed to learn to swim (?!?) is always middling at sports days, is terrible at drawing, never ever gets on any sports team and cries when he gets home about it. But I'm supposed to not talk about the fact he took level 6 papers because an anonymous parent might feel bad?!?

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 10/07/2015 11:14

Look, sorry, I wasn't trying to have a go at anyone who is celebrating any score at all, either in my post this morning or further up the thread and I don't go round doing it on other threads either, I was just trying to explain why some people find school report day a bit upsetting. I do know we can't live our lives without celebrating for fear of causing someone else offence.

AntiquityIsDotDotDot · 10/07/2015 11:17

Sorry, I think I got a bit arsey! I will excuse myself from this thread!

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 10/07/2015 11:32

Me too. My DS is similar, struggles with music, rarely gets picked for teams, rarely gets a good part in drama productions, as well as struggling academically, but he does do OK at Sports Day and I'm sure I wouldn't hesitate to share about that on a thread about Sports Days so I will stop right there and consider myself corrected. I think the point about being sensitive about who you share with and how does apply in real life, but it can't on an anonymous forum or even FB etc.

HPFA · 10/07/2015 11:37

There is a difference between high achievement in academics and things like sport. Only a very small percentage of those who are "good at sport" will actually be able to make a living at it. Apart from a very small elite most of those good at sport will either not make a living from it or it will not be particularly well-paid. A child who is academically gifted however is likely (obviously not certain)to be be able to access higher quality seconday education, a better university and better job than someone who isn't. I'm not saying that's wrong but maybe something to bear in mind?

Personally I only mention my DD's marks/levels to people who I'm certain have children who achieved at least as well or higher. Has worked well so far.

var123 · 10/07/2015 11:38

I have to admit to get a little upset too... sorry for my aggressive come back. Its real life that's hard going, not this forum and I shouldn't have taken my frustration out on others.

var123 · 10/07/2015 11:43

HPFA - yet the main goal is not to earn a lot of money, its to be happy.

And I can honestly say that I worry every day how things will turn out for DS1. He may be clever but his self-confidence is on the floor most of the time, and the art, music, sport (and improved behaviour) celebrations all make him harder upon himself.

He is academic and behaves well more or less all the time - and those are the two things that have no currency at school.

YeOldTrout · 10/07/2015 12:02

Everyone entered for L6 math at DS school passed, that includes DS. I won't talk about this with anyone else in real life (?maybe DH?) so can I just put it out there that I'm happy for all 4 or 5 lads who took L6 math test.

DS has a small gift for math so would have been disappointing for him if he hadn't got the 6. He might scrape 5s in the English-things. He finds English & writing especially a chore, so a 5 in anything English will impress me more (as a result of his hard work & determination & generally good character development as well as teacher quality & persistence) than the 6 in math ever could.

YeOldTrout · 10/07/2015 12:07

ps: Var123: I honestly think the school will celebrate with a party funded by PTA when DS leaves, DS's behaviour has been such a headache for them. I know I will celebrate not being stopped by other parents in the road so they can moan about me about DS's bad behaviour. Or having to try to comfort DS why he wasn't invited to a party or dreading the inevitable chats with teacher after school every day. The sneery looks from parents when I try to invite someone else's child around to play. DS has already (inductions days) been flagged up at secondary for behaviour issues, and he isn't even on a SEN list at the moment. That's without me worrying whether he'll get chucked off the bus for tantrumming or his sister will come home tirading how he embarrassed her.

Everyone values good behaviour a lot more than you might realise.

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 10/07/2015 12:17

This sounds like DS and his friend, DS is well behaved but is immature and struggles academically and socially. His friend is very bright and high achieving academically, articulate and extremely mature in many ways, almost certainly will get some L6s but has a fearsome temper and gets in trouble a lot. His mum worries at least as much as I do.

var123 · 10/07/2015 12:48

YeOldTrout - I can see that would be worrying too! I'm not saying that I've got the monopoly on having things to worry about.
Its just that its nice to be able to celebrate something for a change, especially as its not a good idea in real life, and its unfair to assume smugness if a parent is pleased for their child because there may well be other things going on that balance the picture up.

Cheeseandhamtoast · 10/07/2015 16:18

My DS got level 5's in English and Maths in the tests, which I am so happy about. In his report he got teacher assessment 5c in maths and 4b in English. It's the comments in the report that I am most interested in, and his whole report says that DS is very quiet, does not contribute in lessons and does not ask when he doesn't understand. So while I'm over the moon with the level 5's, it is not the most important aspect of how well you can do.

I just wondered, do these results get passed to secondary school, and is the secondary school interested in the teacher assessment or the test result or neither?

TheFirstOfHerName · 10/07/2015 16:24

OMG! DD (the one with GDD) got all level 5s! This is the girl who was not yet speaking when she started Reception!

zippyone · 10/07/2015 16:25

My son got his SATs and school report today, I am very happy with what his teachers wrote about him in his school report - he has come a long way. His SATs were average which is great too. Smile

TheFirstOfHerName · 10/07/2015 16:26

I'm slightly tempted to post DD's SATs results to the paediatrician who told me she was 'educationally subnormal' and to the health visitor who told me she would never cope at a mainstream school.

redskybynight · 10/07/2015 16:33

DS did "as expected" in SATS which I'm really pleased at as he's worked hard for them.

His teacher assessed writing level is a 4 sublevels higher than it was in March!!! I have of course told DS how well he has done whilst being slightly bemused by the whole thing ... So pleased levels are going.

chaiselounger · 10/07/2015 16:50

Got mine today. Ds is fine. I hate the fact we are losing the levels: knowing that he had made x many sub levels was the only way I understood that he was consistently making good progress. Now that's taken from me, and I'm left with a meaningless 'doing well' type comment, that tells me nothing. Confused

WhattodowithMum · 10/07/2015 16:52

Agree completely chaiselounger.

Wittynewnameifonly · 10/07/2015 18:07

I also agree chaiselonge.

DS got 5s in all but maths and a 6 in maths so is happy. Out of a class of 30, there were no l6s in reading, 1 in SPAG and 7 in maths. School is happy!

youarekiddingme · 10/07/2015 19:41

My DS got 4 in all English bits. Bit amused he got 4 in speaking and listening (being language disordered with ASD!) and 4 in writing (as they scribe for him) and bloody impressed he got 4 in spag as he only got 1 spelling right!
He got level 6 in maths.

YeOldTrout · 10/07/2015 20:50

Well done @ TheFirstofHerName's DD.

Myspace76 · 10/07/2015 23:34

Foreign sounding name - that is purely racist and it demonstrates why this country is run by the same sort of people i.e. white and middle/upper class. Your comment sickens me. Then people like you think black people are inferior or have a chip on their shoulder.. shame on you.