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Complaint to school

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gwenig2 · 28/02/2014 22:28

Yesterday my 10 year old was grab on the wrist in a attempt to force her from the floor to go to the headmistress office. This was a male teacher in her school. I did post on Facebook I was upset by this but did not name the school. The new headmistress TOLD me I had to remove this or she souls report to police for slander. I have removed post, but feel more angry now as they did not apologise or give any justification for the incident, which to me is assault. I have a meeting on Monday arranged after much foot stomping today. Need advice on how to handle as feel little overwhelmed and emotional.

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tethersend · 02/03/2014 15:20

The panic room, not the water.

Although that too.

As teachers, we should not start thinking of staff and student safety as a luxury. It's a very slippery slope. Heads and LEAs who think they have saved themselves money by not employing an extra TA or receptionist may find it was a false economy one day Sad

clam · 02/03/2014 15:30

Seriously? The teacher locks him/herself in the panic room, leaving the rest of the class, as well as the troubled child, at large and unsupervised?

tethersend · 02/03/2014 15:30

Phones in every classroom are just one system, there are many others which I've mentioned.

mrz · 02/03/2014 15:34

Yes it was a very scary place with some very weird ideas

NearTheWindymill · 02/03/2014 15:37

Christ all the teachers are debating about the best ways to restrain a potentially dangerous child and seek help to deal with him or her.

If they are that dangerous they should be in mainstream schools in the first place. If my child got injured because of any of this I'd be taking civil action expecially if I had raised issues with the school beforehand.

One size does not fit all and a very small minority are having a detrimental effect on the majority. Teachers need to be able to implement sanctions and the mnajority need to be able to attend peaceful schools and achieve to the best of their ability. The children who prevent that should not be in mainstream schools.

When teachers start speaking up for the majority I'll start campaigning for better terms and conditions. For as long as the excuse culture continues then I don't think mainstream schools are fit for any children to learn in or teachers to teach in

As you all were,

columngollum · 02/03/2014 15:40

I've been talking about removing the troublesome children for years. But the support for keeping them in mainstream classes (from parents) is significant.

teacherwith2kids · 02/03/2014 15:48

Near,

I have never had to use the panic button. Nor has anyone had to use the 'code ohrase' system. I have only once had to use the 'stand in the doorway and ask for help' process, and that was in response to a specific one-off situation, not a 'troublesome child' as you so charmingly put it... a child in exceptionally deep distress, yes, but in response to a set of circumstances that would have had a n adult in a similar state, and which did not recur.

Having a worked through policy abut what to do in the case of emergency doers NOT mean that such emergencies are commonplace. Every workplace in the country has a procedure in the case of fire. I have never yet had to evacuate a building due to a real fire, although I have attended more fire drills than I can count.... In the same way, having a robust procedure in case to deal with a child-related emergency does not mean that such emergencies are commonplace.

clam · 02/03/2014 15:51

windydmill Are you saying that you think teachers should be campaigning for "getting rid" of troublesome children?

columngollum · 02/03/2014 15:52

I think everybody should be campaigning for it.

clam · 02/03/2014 15:53

Fancy going over to the SN threads and starting up a debate there about it?

tethersend · 02/03/2014 15:55
Grin
columngollum · 02/03/2014 15:59

SN doesn't = troublesome. You can have no SN and just be a right royal pita.

Feenie · 02/03/2014 16:02
Shock

I wouldn't want colleagues who would stand for that kind of campaign.

columngollum · 02/03/2014 16:05

And how are the other children to be taught fairly if the teacher is sometimes (or often) dealing with the child/children who are kicking off? (or constantly low level disrupting?)

clam · 02/03/2014 16:05

Popcorn, anyone?

clam · 02/03/2014 16:08

Unfortunately for you, Gollum, that is part-and-parcel of a teacher's job nowadays. Your "get rid of the nuisances" attitude belongs back in the 50s.

Feenie · 02/03/2014 16:10

What clam said.

columngollum · 02/03/2014 16:11

Is it an attitude or is there an issue about behaviour? Govian litter picking and writing lines is about as much of a solution as a chocolate teapot.

tethersend · 02/03/2014 16:14

I'd rather see a campaign to get children with behavioural difficulties the support they need, TBH.

That would be fairer on everyone.

columngollum · 02/03/2014 16:17

Schools specialising in troublesome children are going to be more cost effective, and able to respond in time, than giving each school some/not enough resources, as happens at the moment.

There's some idea about training ex-soldiers as teachers. I don't know how that project is going.

clam · 02/03/2014 16:19

Not sure why I'm rising to this bait bored with planning but Gollum, have you ANY idea how difficult it is to get a place in a special school these days, even for children with very extreme needs. It's verging on impossible. Yet you're suggesting that those causing 'low-level disruption' should be shipped out...where?

pineapplehedgehog · 02/03/2014 16:19

Perhaps it would be better to start your own thread about that issue column. i'm sure it would lead to a lively debate but not sure it's relevant to the op's situation.

spanieleyes · 02/03/2014 16:19

They couldn't cope Grin

clam · 02/03/2014 16:20

There's some idea about training ex-soldiers as teachers Yeah, I heard that. I assumed it was a joke.

Feenie · 02/03/2014 16:21

It never happened - there were no queues of ex-military desperate to join the teaching profession.

Can't think why.