Teachers do not adhere to Statemented 1 to 1 support, do not believe in sub-levels, make APP assessments up....How much of what parents are told by schools about teaching is a box ticking exercise?

[Regards]

Following on from this thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/primary/1859219-Im-a-teacher-and-happy-to-answer-any-questions

and this:
community.tes.co.uk/tes_primary/f/36/t/381051.aspx?pi2132219857=1

I realised I was incredibly gullible when my DC first started school. What exactly should we believe concerning what the teachers tell us, how much is a PR job to cover up the ugly truth?

Because the head teacher and all the staff would have to work for free or start paying the school to work there.
Whiteboards came out of separate funding in the first place. Cannot be sold on as the school has liability for them if they should cause any problems for the new owner. Our lea bans any such activities.

Also whiteboards are useful for engaging a range of children with various issues themselves. Are you saying their education is lex important?

soap please don't start slating parents because you think teachers are being criticised. If teachers cannot be considered a cohesive group as professionals, parents certainly can't...as well just people who have reproduced ie huge variety.

sugarhiccup stop making me laugh. I'm trying to be all cross and a bit sleepy.

If a ta has to photocopy for the greater good of the school, it is for her charges benefit as well."

Quite probably one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever heard on MN regarding SNs. If my DS1's TA had been pulled to make photocopies, I'd have been livid. The TA is there for DIRECT support of the child, not indirect to benefit the entire school.

I hope you lot aren't in my dd's school wasting people's time and keeping you lsas to yourselves. Greedy and selfish, and ultimately bad for your children.

Well I am going to bed. Goodnight all!

Yes regards I didn't use the word 'some' at all. It wasn't even a specific incident at my school or anything.

Ah Triggles, welcome! Another fighter to the fray!

'Also whiteboards are useful for engaging a range of children with various issues themselves. Are you saying their education is lex important?'

I'm saying whiteboards don't raise attainment, teaching does.

I am saying that actually the education of the most vulnerable and deprived IS more important than a child who does not start out with those disadvantages as education in this country is supposed to enable equality and close deprivation gaps.

I am saying that capable children were fully able to learn a long time before IWBs were invented.

I'm saying that having IWBs are not a statutory requirement like meeting the provision within a child's statement is.

Pass- why? The insult?

Tired, yes. Like my food, well a bit too much. But I certainly did not want to fight just for my child to get some sort of education or to protect his reputation with honest reporting.

Earlier you seemed to care. I hope this is just because you are crabby and tired.

I dream of normal.

I completely agree with Trigglesx.

OK. I said I wouldn't give any particulars, for fear of outing myself . But ...

Do you know, I have even visited a school where cleaning the loo was outlined as part of the support worker's job? Dropped into conversation casually by the Head. Really.

That should have read "agree with Triggles and Starlight".

Goodnight Regards.

I'm leaving this thread too. I'm worried I'm going to end up making myself identifiable.

I hope you lot aren't in my dd's school wasting people's time and keeping you lsas to yourselves. Greedy and selfish, and ultimately bad for your children.

Whilst I realise MN likes for us to try to educate people regarding SNs whenever possible, I can't be arsed to waste the effort in this situation.

I have more important things to do with my time. I have no need to justify the allocation of a FT 1:1 to my DS here.

I am, however, very grateful after reading some of these posts, that DS1 went to a MS school that followed the letter of the law and put the child first, regardless of budgeting and staffing pressures.

I'm sorry but some of the things I can do with my whiteboard to help engage every child in that class absolutely does have an impact greater than I could achieve without it.

I think you have a narrow view of was sen is if you think otherwise.

Pass sorry. I really am tired. Just realised I misread your whole post.

But do you realise yet I am not obsessed with 1to1?

I'm saying whiteboards don't raise attainment, teaching does.
AAAAHAHA!! Teaching? What, by teachers? Those devious thieves who scupper your child's education by shamelessly re-allocating support and selfishly getting clobbered because they can't be arsed to get violent pupils removed? Im surprised you credit them with the ability to make a sandwich, let alone raise the attainment of 30 kids, to be honest.

Or did I? Bed now for me methinks.

I am, however, very grateful after reading some of these posts, that DS1 went to a MS school that followed the letter of the law and put the child first, regardless of budgeting and staffing pressures.
I'm glad he did, too. I teach in one of those. Ofsted seem to agree we're doing it right, hence our outstanding rating. But according to those on this thread some of my practises are illegal. You'd think it'd get picked up somewhere.

*practices. Sigh.

'I'm sorry but some of the things I can do with my whiteboard to help engage every child in that class absolutely does have an impact greater than I could achieve without it.'

I'm not denying that. Nor am I even denying that if you excluded the child with SEN, sold his TA into slavery and used the money for a vegetable garden and hired David Beckham as the sports coach to attract middle-class families with private tutors to supplement half the schools SATs grades, - the school would move up the results league tables and arguably do better for ALL the children within the school.

But that 'ain't the point!

How could illegal use of the TA be picked up?

The only people who can police it are parents of the children with disabilities who are often exhausted from dealing with and fighting for their children, and often have disabilities themselves.

This is why it is all the more alarming that the law is being flouted so readily.

I'm sorry but the only way to pick up anything not right in any service or business is to be involved.

There is no easy answer.

happy with my daughter's education. Her teachers are excellent at teaching her.

My ds with ASD? Not so.

Teachers are trained to teach NT children with SEN as either an optional add-on during their initial course or as part of their very limited CPD if they are 'lucky/unlucky'.

The quality of SEN training for staff is extremely poor, at least the training I have been too (and I seen quite a bit). It is centred on how to lower your expectations, get the child who desperately needs interaction and communication practice mutely dependent on picture schedules so no adult support is needed to contain them in a mainstream classroom whilst they fail.

How can you be involved soap?

I attended everything and got written into the statement 10min fortnightly meeting with class teacher and TA.

There were no vacancies on the governors and another of the schools that I went to the HT and Chair of BOG dismissed the application of a man with Aspergers and didn't even present his application to the rest of the meeting.

A different school told me on the first day that there was no way my ds' allocated 1:1 was going to be 1:1 with him as there were more severely needy children in his class, and so he came home with me immediately never to return.

Another school had a 1:1 and to be fair she was allocated full-time, but was SO badly trained whilst she meant well she did more harm than good and had no understanding of him so I removed him from there too.