Why on earth shouldn't you teach reading if you jolly well feel like it?

[learnandsay]

Is it really all that bad?

[RaisinBoys]

Learnandsay - Have you really been 'talking' about reading, sledging women and cabbages (??) for almost 4 days?

Think of all that valuable reading time wasted.

[Primafacie]

Good grief, Learnandsay, "neglectful"?

You were right after all, there is a comprehension problem in this country. Maybe that's because some people keep talking out of their arses about stuff they clearly know nothing about.

I suggest you read this to gain a modicum of understanding of what neglect actually is, instead of spouting nonsense.

[learnandsay]

prima, have you got an argument or is it just random rants from you, now? I'm not going to read pointless links to more of your ranting. If you've got something to say then say it.

[Primafacie]

Come to think of it, I don't.

Good luck with your thread.

[fanoftheinvisibleman]

Learnandsay what on earth makes you think that it is learn to read early or don't learn at all? If a child is struggling at 7 then I cannot imagine that trying to teach them at 2 will help at all. Does it not occur to you that there are a small percentage who will struggle anyway and probably be demoralised to boot if forced long before they are ready.

Tbh I don't know why you posted and why we are replying. You clearly think children should be hothoused as the only option and want everyone else to validate it for you.

[ShipwreckedAndComatose]

Blimey! This is still going??

I agree with Raisinboys!!

[learnandsay]

I don't think that. Who said that I do?

[exoticfruits]

It seems a very weird thread!

1. If they are ready to learn you can't really stop them and if they are not ready it won't work.
   
2. Teachers do not want you to hold a child back-if they all start at the same place they will learn at different rates, teachers differentiate-that is their job.
   
3. When you are a fluent reader no one knows, or cares, if you learnt at 2 yrs, 5yrs , 8yrs or even 10yrs.
   
4. A library ticket is a good idea if you can get to the library easily.

[Haberdashery]

Most threads that learnandsay contributes much to seem to end up like this at some level. I assume that she quite enjoys annoying people, tbh.

[learnandsay]

Not really, but if people want to argue with me that's their right.

[fanoftheinvisibleman]

'I think the point here is that it is better to feed yourself at four than to read at four. Maybe, but most children will learn to feed themselves eventually but may never learn to read.'

Most children will be just as likely to read eventually too.

[LittlePushka]

But perhaps most importantly, you can't get multipacks of cheddars in a library...just sayin'.

[morethanpotatoprints]

My dd struggles with many aspects of learning and finds decoding difficult. She just doesn't get it and neither did I. I know I'm dyslexic and pretty sure she is too.

I am really pleased she has found a love of reading and is actively seeking her own secret stash .

I stopped telling her she had to read to me, now she asks to read to me. As we don't have teachers and a system to answer to, she did it by herself. She is 9.

[learnandsay]

morethan, that's the best thing that I've heard, yet. Congrats to you and little morethan.

xx

[morethanpotatoprints]

Thanks learnandsay

She is loving it, we are lucky to have a good library.
It was" Pippy Longstocking" that caught her imagination, I think it was you that recommended it

[mrz]

www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2013/02/researchers-discover-a-biological-marker-of-dyslexia.html

[morethanpotatoprints]

Mrz.

That is very interesting, my dd must regularly hear consonants wrongly to say ak least rather than at. If she was reading it though she would definitely say at. There are other examples but I can't think of ant atm. It will be interesting to see what the results are when completed. I have made a note to check back.
[Thanks]

[bumbez]

I haven't read the whole thread but this is what happened with dd1, she taught herself the alphabet aged 2 from a phonics bus, there was absolutely no input from me.

I asked at the library if I should attempt to teach her to read but was advised not to.

6 months before reception I took the bus away. She pretty much forgot every thing but it didn't take her long to be reading fluently. By the end of year 1 I stopped needing to hear her read.

I naturally assumed dd 2 would be the same but now in year 3 she is still a very reluctant reader.