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Infant School pushing to report me to SS for neglect. Can they do that?

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pylonic · 08/01/2013 18:40

My DD age 5.5 has had a poor lateness record since the beginning of Year 1. No excuses really, I only lived a 9 minute walk from school but we were late almost every day for at least 6 months. I had trouble sleeping but not to the point of Insomnia, just kept oversleeping through the alarm clock most times (dreaded snooze button).

She's also had some absence, genuine though, illness and doc's appointments.

Last year I was advised by letter that unless lateness improved the school would be referring us to a welfare officer.
3 months ago we had to move out of the village to a nearby town but no transfers in new town for DD so she still attends old school. Because I have had to rely on buses, we have been late again quite a few times, or other people that I have relied on to drive her in for me have been late traffic etc or there's been other logistical problems, so presumably the record isn't improving.

Today the head teacher called my Mum in for a word (I'm 44...why they need to call my Mummy I don't know), and the gist was as follows:

My children are being neglected because I have insomnia (I don't, I just needed to put some excuse down in the late book. Quite tame compared to other regularly late people's excuses), so they want to involve social services.

I have been seen in the village shop with my children buying chocolate bars. And that's it. I don't know what they mean by this? :/

My daughter has turned up without a cardigan on at least two occasions in 'extreme weather'. This constitutes neglect. But they are quick to complain if she's wearing a different colour cardigan to school because her two logo tops are in the wash.

She often has a chocolate drink in her lunchbox.

This is a very cliquey village, hence glad to have left it behind, but although the late record is admittedly quite dire, is it generally worthy of involving social services for neglect?

The head teacher and I "don't have a dialogue" she told my Mum, hence why she called her in to talk to instead.

I've only spoken to the head once, when I had to inform them about the children's father's DV past so that they do not let him take DD out of school without my permission.

I bristle under authority having come into my Catholic rebellion quite late in life, but I'm generally non-combative.

So I'm wondering what you think of my request, in that I want toask the head to write down all the concerns she has so I have it in writing, and then invite her to my home in order that she can ascertain for herself it is a proper, clean, comfortable and sustaining environment for the children.

I feel a bit Hmmmmm that she has gone 'running to my Mummy' instead of talking to me, the parent, especially considering this late book has been full of the same old, same old pupils including my sister's son, for the last couple of years, but I feel a bit singled out perhaps wrongly, I don't know, because of the whole single mother on benefits stereotype, DV background, and now they want social services to investigate the children for neglect.

The children's father also wants to play this card against me, so I'm just resigned to SS being involved in their lives anyway it's out of my control.

My DD is otherwise happy, bright, doing fine at school and paints happy pictures all the time.

Can an infant school really go down this route when there isn't actually any clear signs of any kind of neglect going on? It seems unfair to tar my DD with this brush and I'm also concerned how this is going to affect her In Year transfer to a school in our new town.

I think this is just a rant, it all seems to be out of my control. The head has a reputation for being an axe-grinder and their Ofsted isn't great for a village school. The conspiracy theorist in me is saying its all about the grades.

Hs anyone been investigated by SS before for neglect? What should I expect? Will it go against me in the forthcoming Vafcass report which their father wants to initiate too as part of his contact/custody case?

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AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 10/01/2013 01:10

couldn't get them out? with a nit comb? i don't understand.

pylonic · 10/01/2013 01:11

5

I'm always up late Smile

What's your excuse?

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BonkeyMollocks · 10/01/2013 01:12

No Aitch no one else could either!

gingerchick · 10/01/2013 01:12

We may be up late but we get up in the morning and take our kids to school and get them there on time. You don't

pylonic · 10/01/2013 01:14

Ginger

HahaGrin yes you're right. My mother generally takes her in.
Are you still up too? Shock

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AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 10/01/2013 01:15

the nits, OP? how were the cases still there some time after an infestation?

gingerchick · 10/01/2013 01:15

Yep usually am, insomniac as I said, your mother generally takes her in late. If you got up and got your finger out maybe she wouldn't be

pylonic · 10/01/2013 01:16

Go and read all the threads on nits, you'll find lots of advice.

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ThatVikRinA22 · 10/01/2013 01:17

my dd is 15. old enough to get herself up and ready and off to catch the bus.
i still get up with her mind - then go back to bed!

funnily enough though, i have managed to get her to school for the entire 10 years she has been there without social service involvement. so i feel qualified to advise,
and you asked for advice.

are we nearly at 500 yet?
such fun.

pylonic · 10/01/2013 01:17

Ooh ginger

You love this don't you. Shall I pass you a bun? Unless my battery runs out, you'll probably win. I'm utterly unbeatable in case you haven't noticed over the course of 500 replies... Smile

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TheBOF · 10/01/2013 01:17

Another thread (I think it was in Discussions Of The Day) said that white vinegar on the hair for half an hour before combing dissolves the glue so you can remove the dead shells. Good tip, I thought.

5madthings · 10/01/2013 01:18

I am a night owl always have been, tho.i am actually in bed and i will get up and get my children to school.on time. Uniforms are laid out, pack ups and oe kits and swim kits are ready etc. I will be up at 6:30 and have a shower and get the kids up at 7am and be out the house by 8 am.

BonkeyMollocks · 10/01/2013 01:18

Vicar 511!

pylonic · 10/01/2013 01:18

Unbaitable, arghhhh!!! That went wrong Grin not unbeatable.

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gingerchick · 10/01/2013 01:19

You're an idiot op but you're not unbeatable and I fear it will take social services removing your children before you realise that

ThatVikRinA22 · 10/01/2013 01:19

yay! so we are over 500 now pylonic

now you can fuck off and be happy! goodo!

pylonic · 10/01/2013 01:20

Me too, 5, fellow night owl. I suspect there's a few of us here. There are more interesting active discussions though than this ...

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pylonic · 10/01/2013 01:22

Vicar

You stayed up with me just to make the 500 Thanks

Ginger, I mean Unbaitable, truly, not unbeatable, and it's not even a Freudian slip. Eek!

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ThatVikRinA22 · 10/01/2013 01:24

i think you will find that is the very definition of a Freudian slip.

i thought you were going to bed when it got to 500? or are you enjoying trolling a bit too much to sleep?

BonkeyMollocks · 10/01/2013 01:25

I have visions of a giant nit under a bridge now Grin

Gah!

BonkeyMollocks · 10/01/2013 01:26

Im actually wondering if the reason the op is doing what she is doing is to get deleted.

Way back she said someone recognised her in RL and she seems room stupid to name change.

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 10/01/2013 01:30

i'm not looking for advice on nits, thanks. i'm more than capable of combing my children's hair... i'm curious as to how the OP isn't, though.

anyhoo, off to bed. children to get to school and nursery in the morning etc.

i hope you manage to ask for help and use it, OP. i'm glad for your children that the school is taking the decision out of your hands, you seem very stuck.

TheBOF · 10/01/2013 01:32

I wouldn't dream of giving you advice on nits, Aitch. It was aimed at the OP.

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 10/01/2013 01:35

she seems capable of googling, bof. she seems, tbh, very capable indeed. that's why i don't understand what's going on here. she's clearly bright, but there's no way that not combing dead lice and shells out of your child's hair equals a happy, coping parent. it's absolutely tragic.

and all this focussing on whether the head should have spoken to her mother, it's fiddling while Rome burns. poor woman, and poor kids.

ThatVikRinA22 · 10/01/2013 01:36

bof i think aitch was talking to OP who said to her there were several threads on nits if she wanted to read them...
aithes post wasnt to you.

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