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Infant School pushing to report me to SS for neglect. Can they do that?

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pylonic · 08/01/2013 18:40

My DD age 5.5 has had a poor lateness record since the beginning of Year 1. No excuses really, I only lived a 9 minute walk from school but we were late almost every day for at least 6 months. I had trouble sleeping but not to the point of Insomnia, just kept oversleeping through the alarm clock most times (dreaded snooze button).

She's also had some absence, genuine though, illness and doc's appointments.

Last year I was advised by letter that unless lateness improved the school would be referring us to a welfare officer.
3 months ago we had to move out of the village to a nearby town but no transfers in new town for DD so she still attends old school. Because I have had to rely on buses, we have been late again quite a few times, or other people that I have relied on to drive her in for me have been late traffic etc or there's been other logistical problems, so presumably the record isn't improving.

Today the head teacher called my Mum in for a word (I'm 44...why they need to call my Mummy I don't know), and the gist was as follows:

My children are being neglected because I have insomnia (I don't, I just needed to put some excuse down in the late book. Quite tame compared to other regularly late people's excuses), so they want to involve social services.

I have been seen in the village shop with my children buying chocolate bars. And that's it. I don't know what they mean by this? :/

My daughter has turned up without a cardigan on at least two occasions in 'extreme weather'. This constitutes neglect. But they are quick to complain if she's wearing a different colour cardigan to school because her two logo tops are in the wash.

She often has a chocolate drink in her lunchbox.

This is a very cliquey village, hence glad to have left it behind, but although the late record is admittedly quite dire, is it generally worthy of involving social services for neglect?

The head teacher and I "don't have a dialogue" she told my Mum, hence why she called her in to talk to instead.

I've only spoken to the head once, when I had to inform them about the children's father's DV past so that they do not let him take DD out of school without my permission.

I bristle under authority having come into my Catholic rebellion quite late in life, but I'm generally non-combative.

So I'm wondering what you think of my request, in that I want toask the head to write down all the concerns she has so I have it in writing, and then invite her to my home in order that she can ascertain for herself it is a proper, clean, comfortable and sustaining environment for the children.

I feel a bit Hmmmmm that she has gone 'running to my Mummy' instead of talking to me, the parent, especially considering this late book has been full of the same old, same old pupils including my sister's son, for the last couple of years, but I feel a bit singled out perhaps wrongly, I don't know, because of the whole single mother on benefits stereotype, DV background, and now they want social services to investigate the children for neglect.

The children's father also wants to play this card against me, so I'm just resigned to SS being involved in their lives anyway it's out of my control.

My DD is otherwise happy, bright, doing fine at school and paints happy pictures all the time.

Can an infant school really go down this route when there isn't actually any clear signs of any kind of neglect going on? It seems unfair to tar my DD with this brush and I'm also concerned how this is going to affect her In Year transfer to a school in our new town.

I think this is just a rant, it all seems to be out of my control. The head has a reputation for being an axe-grinder and their Ofsted isn't great for a village school. The conspiracy theorist in me is saying its all about the grades.

Hs anyone been investigated by SS before for neglect? What should I expect? Will it go against me in the forthcoming Vafcass report which their father wants to initiate too as part of his contact/custody case?

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ThatVikRinA22 · 10/01/2013 00:41

yep you just keep on going pylonic. you will surely get your 500 replies.

and social services knocking. but hey - whats more important eh? you keep on with the flip comments. its so cute.

pylonic · 10/01/2013 00:42

Creme egg

I think this is rather a relaxing thread actually. I'm enjoying it.

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CremeEggThief · 10/01/2013 00:43

Well good night all.

pylonic · 10/01/2013 00:45

Vicar you can't resist! You went to bed half an hour ago Wink

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BonkeyMollocks · 10/01/2013 00:46

I have read this whole thread because i seem to be unable to sleep.

My guess is i shall eventually sleep somewhere around 2/3/4 . I will get up at 7.30 and my son will be at school on time.

Life!

From what i have read all i can think.us that you op are a lazy ignorant arse and i think its a damn good thing that ss may get involved....for your dds sake.
Stuff you and your excuses. i feel.incredibly sorry for you kids because it will be affecting them whether you believe it or not.

They have a violent father?
Do you want to give him the excuses he needs?

Pull the stick.out if your arsenal woman and grew up and be a mother!!!!

BonkeyMollocks · 10/01/2013 00:48

Please excuse the typos.
Am tired an on phone.

It seems i may be able to get my son to school on time but unable to proof read.

ThatVikRinA22 · 10/01/2013 00:50

yep i went to bed.

but this is such fun. i decided to keep playing spot the fuckwit. sadly its not much of a challenge.

NorthernLurker · 10/01/2013 00:50

I don't think the OP is unaware. I think she knows exactly what she's doing. Unfortunately she thinks it's clever and amusing when actually it's really very dull and pointless.

I suggest we stop 'feeding' the thread. No good will come of it.

ThatVikRinA22 · 10/01/2013 00:50
Smile

forgot the smiley

5madthings · 10/01/2013 00:51

Persistant lateness and a history of dv on their own are red flags.

Maybe it is only twice your dd hasnt had a cardigan, the chocolate milk.is not ideal, they seem minor and picky to you but combined wuth the attitude you are displaying the school dont have any choice but to report their concerns as you are more concerned with complaining than engaging with them and sorting the issues out.

I have experience of both sides, my dp works with them and they supported our family when i was ill, as i mentioned a few pages back.

You are acting like this is a game, but this is your childrens lives and welfare. As i said, step back from mnet and engage with rl and sort this out.

pylonic · 10/01/2013 00:55

5madthings

Noo. You still don't see it. You are basing judgement solely on the responses to this thread. An online profile does not the measure of a man make, no matter how much you think you can presume a person's character based solely on their typewritten responses.

Are we up to 500 yet?

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AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 10/01/2013 00:56

sorry OP, i can't get this out of my head.

WHY did your child/children have old nit cases in their hair. do you not brush it for them?

SirBoobAlot · 10/01/2013 00:57

OP I am concerned by your disassociation with what is going on. You are either totally disengaged from the situation or are feeding off it in some way, that may well be beyond your control.

Please get some help.

ThatVikRinA22 · 10/01/2013 01:00

489 pylonic

is 500 your target?

ThatVikRinA22 · 10/01/2013 01:00

if so i can help there

gingerchick · 10/01/2013 01:01

You're in your forties for heavens sake stop acting like a petulant child

5madthings · 10/01/2013 01:02

Well.perhaps in rl life you are actually doing somethinh about this situation and engaging with the school to address the issues. Hopefully you will even work with childrens services to ensure a positive outcome for your children.

Your responses to this thread however dont make me very hopeful,if you treat your rl life as some kind of game like are doing this thread then i worry for you and your children tbh.

pylonic · 10/01/2013 01:03

Sirboob

Sorry for the disassociation, I'm dividing my time between this thread and a few other online activities. This thread died a death about a day ago so I don't really have anything new to add to it, nor I believe does anyone else.

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JoanByers · 10/01/2013 01:03

1am now, shouldn't you be in bed?

I predict:

  • SS come round
  • You act like the same stroppy cow you've been on here, official complaints this and writing letters that, rather than accepting that you have an issue.
  • SS take your kids off you

The End.

Nothing more to see here folks.

BonkeyMollocks · 10/01/2013 01:03

495

ThatVikRinA22 · 10/01/2013 01:05

no wonder you cant get up with the alarm op! its late you know. or is mummy taking them to school in the morning? maybe thats why school asked mummy about their attendance?

when we get to 500 does that signify an end to this bollocks?

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 10/01/2013 01:07

some explanation of how your children came to have months-old nit cases in their hair would be new information, OP. It's not a joke, i genuinely don't understand it.

BonkeyMollocks · 10/01/2013 01:09

Aitch
Iirc the op couldn't get them.out Hmm and left them there for.months.then a hairdresser (quite rightly so) refused to cut it.

5madthings · 10/01/2013 01:10

You never answered if your dd got to school on time today op? Perhaps if you didnt stay up so late you would be able to get up and get her to school on time?

Tho i can stay up.late and STILL get up and get my kids to school on time.

piprabbit · 10/01/2013 01:10

Yes, the school can raise their concerns with SS. In fact they have a duty to raise those concerns with SS.

If they are only going to be telling SS about the few things you have mentioned in this thread, then I am hopeful that SS will thank the school for their assistance and that will be the end of the matter.

But maybe there is other stuff...who knows.

I am also fascinated that you know so much about the late records of other children in the school (especially as you've been missing out on the playground gossip for the last few months). May be the school has also issued warnings to those parents and will be escalating to SS if no improvement occurs. I don't think you can assume that the school is targeting you alone.