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Infant School pushing to report me to SS for neglect. Can they do that?

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pylonic · 08/01/2013 18:40

My DD age 5.5 has had a poor lateness record since the beginning of Year 1. No excuses really, I only lived a 9 minute walk from school but we were late almost every day for at least 6 months. I had trouble sleeping but not to the point of Insomnia, just kept oversleeping through the alarm clock most times (dreaded snooze button).

She's also had some absence, genuine though, illness and doc's appointments.

Last year I was advised by letter that unless lateness improved the school would be referring us to a welfare officer.
3 months ago we had to move out of the village to a nearby town but no transfers in new town for DD so she still attends old school. Because I have had to rely on buses, we have been late again quite a few times, or other people that I have relied on to drive her in for me have been late traffic etc or there's been other logistical problems, so presumably the record isn't improving.

Today the head teacher called my Mum in for a word (I'm 44...why they need to call my Mummy I don't know), and the gist was as follows:

My children are being neglected because I have insomnia (I don't, I just needed to put some excuse down in the late book. Quite tame compared to other regularly late people's excuses), so they want to involve social services.

I have been seen in the village shop with my children buying chocolate bars. And that's it. I don't know what they mean by this? :/

My daughter has turned up without a cardigan on at least two occasions in 'extreme weather'. This constitutes neglect. But they are quick to complain if she's wearing a different colour cardigan to school because her two logo tops are in the wash.

She often has a chocolate drink in her lunchbox.

This is a very cliquey village, hence glad to have left it behind, but although the late record is admittedly quite dire, is it generally worthy of involving social services for neglect?

The head teacher and I "don't have a dialogue" she told my Mum, hence why she called her in to talk to instead.

I've only spoken to the head once, when I had to inform them about the children's father's DV past so that they do not let him take DD out of school without my permission.

I bristle under authority having come into my Catholic rebellion quite late in life, but I'm generally non-combative.

So I'm wondering what you think of my request, in that I want toask the head to write down all the concerns she has so I have it in writing, and then invite her to my home in order that she can ascertain for herself it is a proper, clean, comfortable and sustaining environment for the children.

I feel a bit Hmmmmm that she has gone 'running to my Mummy' instead of talking to me, the parent, especially considering this late book has been full of the same old, same old pupils including my sister's son, for the last couple of years, but I feel a bit singled out perhaps wrongly, I don't know, because of the whole single mother on benefits stereotype, DV background, and now they want social services to investigate the children for neglect.

The children's father also wants to play this card against me, so I'm just resigned to SS being involved in their lives anyway it's out of my control.

My DD is otherwise happy, bright, doing fine at school and paints happy pictures all the time.

Can an infant school really go down this route when there isn't actually any clear signs of any kind of neglect going on? It seems unfair to tar my DD with this brush and I'm also concerned how this is going to affect her In Year transfer to a school in our new town.

I think this is just a rant, it all seems to be out of my control. The head has a reputation for being an axe-grinder and their Ofsted isn't great for a village school. The conspiracy theorist in me is saying its all about the grades.

Hs anyone been investigated by SS before for neglect? What should I expect? Will it go against me in the forthcoming Vafcass report which their father wants to initiate too as part of his contact/custody case?

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pylonic · 09/01/2013 23:58

Thank you Pancake, that's useful to know.

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crunchbag · 09/01/2013 23:59

So who is going to hand in your letter of complaint, your mum by any chance? The irony in that.

But seriously you need to start taking responsibility and address the issues with school.

ThatVikRinA22 · 09/01/2013 23:59

tell you what then pyloric

carry on just as you are. its fine really.

social services will investigate you and your neglect. it matters not a jot how obtuse or argumentative you are one here - your children are what is important and its about bloody time social services got involved by the sound of it because you are incapable of taking any kind of well meaning advice. its no skin of my nose.
sounds like your card is well and truly marked.
good job too.

5madthings · 09/01/2013 23:59

Its obvious what you are taking from this thread, yoi have said yourself you ate complainimg which imo is the wrong thing to do in this situation. You need to engage with the school and sort this out!

gingerchick · 09/01/2013 23:59

Well you don't seem to be taking it at all seriously

lia66 · 09/01/2013 23:59

If your nephew is making himself late by dropping your child, maybe he could collect her earlier, thus getting her to school on time and himself to 6th form on time too . Grin

TunaPastaBake · 10/01/2013 00:01

But lateness runs in the family = so the nephew being late is OK ( by OP standards)

pylonic · 10/01/2013 00:02

Ginger

There's no fight with the school.
What gives you that impression?

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gingerchick · 10/01/2013 00:03

The fact that you are concentrating your efforts on complaining about the head instead of just getting your bloody finger out woman

TunaPastaBake · 10/01/2013 00:03

If there's no fight with the school - work with the school then !

ThatVikRinA22 · 10/01/2013 00:03

you, OP are being a blinkered fool to yourself.

you post gobsmacked that a hairdresser dares to decline to cut your sons hair while its full of nit cases - but thats so unfair! after all - theyve been there for 4 months! she should believe you when you say its fine!

then you post saying the school have referred you to social services.

errrrrrmmmmm.

join the dots.

pylonic · 10/01/2013 00:03

Dollytwat

I think we have fairly conclusively exhausted all possibilities of doing anything 'differently'. Although you might have to explain which aspect of this thread you refer to, because there's one heck of a lot of'em!

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pylonic · 10/01/2013 00:05

Vicarina

Noo. The hairdressers is perfectly within her personal rights. You're trying to pick a fight where one exists Wink
That thread was about an insurance document the salon failed to produce.

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pylonic · 10/01/2013 00:05

Doesn't exist, rather.

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TunaPastaBake · 10/01/2013 00:05

Dollytwat - keep seeing the 'twat' in your name but keep thinking of someone else .

Ministrone · 10/01/2013 00:08

I get the feeling that this has become a game to the OP, sometimes when I feel that some aspects of my life have become out of control a 'cause' or 'grievance' gives me something to focus on, unfortunately it causes stress for other people in my life and ultimately there are no winners. I am not suggesting that this is the case for the OP but there must be some reason why she is arguing petty little points ad nauseam.

pylonic · 10/01/2013 00:08

Ginger

I'm not taking this thread seriously, no, you're right. It's a bunch of total strangers brewing opinions based on nothing more than fresh air. But it's interesting reading the views of strangers sometimes. There are often real gems of enlightenment within. Some of you are just here for the bunfight of course.

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ThatVikRinA22 · 10/01/2013 00:08

like i said pylonic you just carry on in your own sweet way.

because someone has obviously spotted the problem and that way your kids just might stand a bloody sporting chance.

you need help. your children need help. but you are too proud to accept it until its going to be forced upon you in the form on Social services.

so you just carry on. goodnight.

TunaPastaBake · 10/01/2013 00:09

OK Op in answer to your thread title

Infant School pushing to report me to SS for neglect. Can they do that?

Yes they can
Yes they will
and by the end of the week I wouldn't be surprised if they would have !

pylonic · 10/01/2013 00:09

Goodnight Vicar,

That you for your views, I have genuinely enjoyed reading them Smile

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gingerchick · 10/01/2013 00:10

To be fair you posted the OP and people are getting angry because you seem oblivious that the problem is YOU

pylonic · 10/01/2013 00:11

Ginger

No, I'm well aware the solution is mine to find. People get angry on here because that's the nature of anonymous online posting.

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gingerchick · 10/01/2013 00:12

No because people are genuinely concerned for dc who's mother is being neglectful

pylonic · 10/01/2013 00:13

Some of them, Ginger Smile

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Hobbitation · 10/01/2013 00:14

I posted out of concern for pylonic rather than her DC, FWIW.