does anyone know when were likely to find out results of phonics check?

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just that really.
days?weeks?end of term?
thanks

MerryMarigold a 30% pass rate - would that be average or is that quite low?

no idea, accounts rule! Another thread about it in education

Ok thanks, just sounds really low, maybe the test is not realistic to the abilities of most Y1 children?!

Interesting stuff found out by another MNer over here

That makes sense then, will be interested to see how our school and others do in this test then and whether any positive changes will come of it!

Just 32 per cent of the Year 1 pupils in 300 schools who took a trial run of the test passed it.

In total 8,963 children took part in the pilot in June.

In the pilot checks each school had a different threshold score (pass mark) between 31-34 so some less than the real check and some slightly higher

DS just came home from school and said he got all of them right, I said what all 40? He said 'well if thats how many there were then yes' (cheeky thing!). I said did they tell you that you got them all right and he said 'I know because she gave me a high five after'!

Kids are so funny sometimes- he finally said she ticked them all, he said one wrong but corrected himself straight away so she ticked it.

It will be interesting to know the schools overall result, I am quite hopefull that they will do pretty well as they seem to be fairly hot on teaching phonics from what I gather! I would certainly hope more than 32% anyway as it looks fairly basic to me?!

There are two columns - one for correct and one for incorrect answers. The teacher ticks the appropriate column. To a six year old, it looks like they've got them all right!

The teacher's mark sheet has two columns to tick one for correct and the other for incorrect ... I just told everyone how wonderful they were

I would be surprised if he got many wrong TBH as when I showed him the sample test he read them straight off with no hesitation but when they are actually having a test I know they sometimes do panic a bit (depends how it is portrayed).

He has now said that the one he said wrong but corrected himself straight away and she ticked that in another box but the others were ticked all in a straight line. He thinks it was ticked in another box as he said it right straight after saying it wrong bless him!

The child is allowed to self correct as many times as they want but the teacher has to take their final answer.

Ah so he may have self-corrected incorrectly then (if that makes sense) or completely got it wrong. It doesn't really worry me as I know his phonic knowledge is ok and that the school seemed to be fine but still nice to know they are doing ok.

I was given my sons results today by the class teacher.The school didn't inform us that the tests were being done this week and didn't make a big thing of it[nor did my son who didn't say a word].I don't know how the rest of the class did,but he got 100%.I have to say that although it is a local state school KS1 is really well organised and reading is mainly taught via the phonics method.

Well done to your DS teta (and to the school, its nice to hear positives re state schools). DS's teacher hasn't told us the actual scores yet but he did say there is a column for self corrected words which still mean they got it right.

Why are children's individual results being given out? As a parent I'd want to know the overall result for the school, because it would indicate how good the school was at teaching phonics, but I don't get why individual results are being communicated. Unless a child really is struggling - but then this surely shouldn't be the first the teacher knows about it. Or even if it is the first they know about it, surely it's better for the teacher just to let the parent know in the ordinary course of things, rather than "s/he failed the phonics check."

Thank you accountant....Some of my dc's have been to a private school as well[when but the local state school is much better organised

Sorry my youngest just fell on top of the computer before i'd finished!.Vesela i find that really weird.Surely all parents would like to know how their child performs in various subjects?.My children have a complete range of abilities from high to low and i always ask their results.Otherwise how can you gauge ability?.Competition is rife in real life surely.

Teta - in general, yes. But not with this test, because it's the school that's being tested. They're testing a specific thing, which is whether the school is teaching phonics properly, and handing out individual results just seems like it's deflecting attention a bit.

Yes you have a point.But i think this test is also designed to find individuals with difficulties.The problem is that some children[especially boys,can be years behind] in maturity levels and abilities and it is unfair to label children at this age.It would be more relevant to measure individual ability versus the overall school result to gain a better balanced viewpoint.

Think our school will tell parents results and we can decide whether to tell our child.

vesela the phonics screening check is to check the child's ability to decode it is NOT a test of the school.

The phonics screening check is a quick and easy check of your child?s phonics knowledge. It helps your school confirm whether your child has made the expected progress.
Your school should tell you about your child?s progress in phonics and how he or she has done in the screening check in the last half-term of Year 1. If your child has found the check difficult, your child?s school should also tell you what support they have put in place to help him or her improve. You might like to ask how you can support your child to take the next step in reading.
All children are individuals and develop at different rates. The screening check ensures that teachers understand which children need extra help with phonic decoding.

media.education.gov.uk/assets/files/pdf/p/learning%20to%20read%20through%20phonics%20%20%20information%20for%20parents.pdf

DD2's teacher and her both told me when I collected her that she'd got all of her 'alien' words right. It was all very light heated and when we talked about it later, DD made no mention of it being a test! We'd not had any warning or practice though. I think school are quietly confident as they've always taught phonics, right from F1.

mrz, I thought it started out as a check on the school? (which is surely what it should be). I can't work out why they've decided to put so much emphasis on individual children's results. If they wanted to do a real diagnostic test then that would surely look quite different, and check for e.g. tracking issues as well?

No vesela it started out just how it finished as a check on individual children's phonic knowledge and ability to decode. It's a well established and reliable model for identifying early reading difficulties.

Schools and teachers aren't qualified to do medical tests which would be needed for checking tracking difficulties.