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Parents becoming teachers? Is it me or has Gove totally lost it?

691 replies

sogrownup · 26/06/2011 20:15

How do you feel about going into school to cover for a teacher who is on strike? Is there anyone out there who believes that this is a sound idea.... I think it's madness!!

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mrz · 26/06/2011 21:41

They won't be covered by insurance so I hope someone is upgrading the policy

Clary · 26/06/2011 21:42

Yes this made me so angry.

That man has NO IDEA (sorry to shout). Yes Getorf he is a pouter, no?

If people honestly think education is so bad they should come into a school, shouldn't they! I work in an inner-city comprehensive that takes kids from a very varied area, in socio-economic terms (also very mixed racially and ability-wise). The work that goes on there and the effort made to get some of the students through their GCSEs is just amazing. And the lessons that are taught, and how interesting they are...

Well it just makes me remember the endless copying from the board in my 1970s all-girls grammar school and be amazed.

MsInterpret · 26/06/2011 21:42

Sod off ReadingMan.

CTRL+C that.

MoreBeta · 26/06/2011 21:44

As much as I thnk the teachers strike is midguided and they need to get in the real world, I cannot see how parents can cover for teachers. Many parents will be out at work and almost none will have the relevant CRB check.

If the Govt rally intends to win this then it needs to send a letter to every teacher this week outlining the amendments that will be made to their contract and ask them to sign and send it back by end of term. Anyone who does not sign has their pay and employment terminated forthwith. That way teachers will not be paid for 2 months over the summer, saving money, and allowing time to make alternative arrangements by Autumn.

MsInterpret · 26/06/2011 21:46

MoreBeta, meet ReadingMan. I think you will get along famously.

(If you are not indeed the same person - both fee-paying dads with horrifically unsupportive attitudes towards to state sector, IIRC...)

mrz · 26/06/2011 21:47

You think a school could find high quality new staff over the summer break MoreBeta?

ReadingMan · 26/06/2011 21:50

Do you think you could find a reasonably paid job with 14 weeks holiday and excellent pension rights compared to majority of country over the summer break, Mrz??

crimsonchina · 26/06/2011 21:52

Do you think that the rules of employment protection /unfair dismissal / contract law shouldn't apply to teachers?
Er, why?

mrz · 26/06/2011 21:53

I've already got excellent private sector rights thank you ReadingMan Grin

sogrownup · 26/06/2011 21:57

I like the fact that you referred to it as a reasonably paid job readingman.

I would bet that the majority on this thread would love to see you in the classroom with 35 students delivering a lesson, assessing learning and managing behaviour....however I suspect a little mischief making on your part!!??
Don't think you really believe what you write...

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NunSoQueer · 26/06/2011 21:58

Have to say I agree with readingman Blush

Never fails to amaze me how self-serving the left can be and yet it's always their main grievance against the right!!

NunSoQueer · 26/06/2011 21:59

And I have taught!!!

MoreBeta · 26/06/2011 21:59

MsInterpret - not correct. We have an excellent state Primary near us. If I was a catholic my children would be going to it. The other primary school near us is in special measures.

I would like the state sector to be better and teaching to go back to the methods and quality I had in my state Primary when I was a child. I dislike poor teachers and call it when I see it.

I now believe teaching unions are holding back desperately needed reform and have to be broken. Unions have a valid place in society in protecting employees but here it is clear the teaching unions have gone far beyond that remit.

mrz · 26/06/2011 21:59

So you will be manning the classrooms NunSoQueer?

pointythings · 26/06/2011 22:00

I support the teachers' strike
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DH is taking Thursday off to be with DD1. (DD2's school not affected). If (or when) it happens again, I will be working from home.

Michael Gove is an idiot.

MsInterpret · 26/06/2011 22:01

If you want the state sector to be better (MoreBeta?) then why not support the school in special measures to improve?!

NunSoQueer · 26/06/2011 22:01

I am seriously considering it! I am self-employed so I actually could...

ReadingMan · 26/06/2011 22:01

You could all apply for Christine Blower's job - £120K+ - nice work if you can get it!

Oh, and excellent pension provision!

Elibean · 26/06/2011 22:03

self-serving? Confused How, exactly?

pointythings · 26/06/2011 22:04

ReadingMan 14 weeks' holiday??? Try:

Evenings and weekends doing marking.
Holidays spent doing marking and lesson preparation.
Constant retraining because successive governments keep moving the goal posts
Aggression from disruptive pupils and worse parents.

My mum worked as a teacher - she was paid for 21 hours a week, in reality worked twice that. Stop reading the Daily Mail and walk in a teacher's shoes for a week!

Angry

Disclaimer - I am not a teacher, just a parent.

magicmummy1 · 26/06/2011 22:07

My dd's school is open, but if it were closing, I'd rather take a day's leave and keep dd at home than send her in to be looked after by a bunch of unqualified parents.

Lots of parents volunteer at dd's school and have the relevant crb checks etc, and they do a fantastic job to help out the school. But they don't know how to teach and I think they would be way out of their depth if suddenly left to supervise 30 kids by themselves.

Gove's intention is obviously to denigrate teachers and to suggest that anyone can just walk in and take over. They can't.

Give is a twat.

EvilTwins · 26/06/2011 22:07

Oh, and pointy, don't forget to remind ReadingMan that TEACHERS DON'T GET PAID FOR HOLIDAYS. They get paid for working their teaching hours, it's just spread across 12 months. FFS.

allegrageller · 26/06/2011 22:07

I think a few posters have missed the point. Readingman is too good to be a teacher. But he's jealous of them anyway, because he thinks they're depriving him of the 0.5% of income tax which he'd presumably spend on a bigger BMW or whatever.

And he is a private sector worker which automatically means massively hardworking, underpaid (?) and hard done by. Bless.

Feenie · 26/06/2011 22:07

And it's 13 weeks, actually.

MsInterpret · 26/06/2011 22:08

Grin Feenie