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Parents becoming teachers? Is it me or has Gove totally lost it?

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sogrownup · 26/06/2011 20:15

How do you feel about going into school to cover for a teacher who is on strike? Is there anyone out there who believes that this is a sound idea.... I think it's madness!!

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crazynanna · 26/06/2011 21:09

MsInterpret Grin

LawrieMarlow · 26/06/2011 21:11

He being Mr Gove that is, although could well be ReadingMan as well.

mrz · 26/06/2011 21:11

remember some independent school staff are striking too because this will affect them too

ThePathanKhansWoman · 26/06/2011 21:14

In a parallel universe Mr Gove is a Carry On Actor is he not?

PotteringAlong · 26/06/2011 21:16

Other than my first sentence I meant private sector in general, not independent schools in particular. Sorry, Blush

Hulababy · 26/06/2011 21:17

Independent school teachers are still in unions. Many are in ATL especially. Some will be striking.

I assume ReadingMan is going to train and become a teacher - after all it is such as easy job with so many perks, he's be stupid not too surely?

crazynanna · 26/06/2011 21:19

*ThePathanKhansWoman Sun 26-Jun-11 21:14:15

In a parallel universe Mr Gove is a Carry On Actor is he not?*

....In a parallel universe I would shoot the bastard!

Chaotica · 26/06/2011 21:20

I'm with Northern. I will be supporting the teachers.

Just felt I ought to add this as I'm often found complaining about my DD's school on here, but that doesn't mean that I don't think the teachers do a bloody hard job that I could not step in at a moment's notice and do... (I'm loving the anti-gove comments on this thread...)

Chaotica · 26/06/2011 21:21

crazynanna - fortunately there are lot of parallel universes. But he is being laughed at in all of them.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 26/06/2011 21:23

I can't actually watch Gove or read anything he says at the moment - my blood pressure instantly shoots up.

i need to go and take a few calming breathes now.

sogrownup · 26/06/2011 21:26

It is a shame that there is a 'them and us' situation developing, fuelled by the government as they make these radical changes. We should respect and appreciate the hard work and commitment on both sides and support each other (at the risk of sounding pink and fluffy)
It might be helpful if non public sector tried out some of these roles such as teaching, policing, nursing etc
The reverse also applies!!

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Lara2 · 26/06/2011 21:28

He is a sanctimonious twat isn't he? He doesn't give a stuff about anyone except himself - I see he's not going to be subject to the same deal that we will be if they get their way.

I think letting the unsupportive parents go into schools is the best idea yet - just leave them your planning and then you can have a debrief session o9n Friday and ask why they didn't keep to the plan/what are the next steps in the learning/ did they all understand their targets etc. Easy peasy! Hmm

TheCrackFox · 26/06/2011 21:30

Speaking as an ex-SAHM (that is who he expects to help out at the schools) the one thing I have learnt from Mumsnet is that WAHM think that SAHMs are arseholes so I can't see there being any incentive for them to help keep the school open. I work part-time and theoretically could help but why should I? I won't be getting paid and most parents won't appreciate it anyway.

Lara2 · 26/06/2011 21:31

Oh, and what was that quip that hospital consultants don't go on strike????!!!! No, because they get paid squillions more than us and aren't going to live in penuary when they retire!!!

Elibean · 26/06/2011 21:32

How do I feel? Gobsmacked (not a feeling, but you know what I mean)

I can't imagine supervising (never mind teaching) all 23 of dd's Y2 class. Even with two or three others to help. I can't imagine any of the other parents doing it. I can't imagine our brilliant TA (who could do it all singlehandedly if she so desired) doing being willing to do it either.

If it helped the kids or the school without undermining our lovely NQT, I would do it like a shot. Otherwise, forget it.

To be honest, Gove's letter as quoted by mrz has a tone of desperation to it...

Elibean · 26/06/2011 21:34

Unfortunately, the unsupportive parents are not likely to be the ones helping, either Angry.

Re CRB checks, just as a point of personal confusion, don't you only need them if you are left alone with the children? If you are never alone with them, its ok not to have one, isn't it? I did ask this question on a recent safeguarding course, could swear the answer was yes/yes Confused

clam · 26/06/2011 21:34

Re: his reference to "alternative childcare arrangements," does that mean he thinks that's all teachers provide at the moment?

Arse.

Elibean · 26/06/2011 21:35

mrz, I had no doubt as to the accuracy of your quote! I still think he is getting a tad hysterical Wink

mrz · 26/06/2011 21:37

I seem to recall two police officers branded "illegal childminders" by OFSTED

www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1216370/Leanne-Shepherd-policewoman-branded-illegal-childminder--looking-colleagues-toddler.html

would parents who follow Gove's advice be equally guilty?

ThePathanKhansWoman · 26/06/2011 21:38

I can just imagine him coming over all Kenneth Williams, ''ooh Teachers you are awful". He is indeed awful.

MsInterpret · 26/06/2011 21:39

crackfox, that's a pretty unfair comment.

I think we should be listening to sogrownup who makes a very important point about the government stirring things up and trying to divide the parents and teachers who actually are - and should be working together as - a partnership. both sides want only the best for the children involved.

ReadingMan · 26/06/2011 21:39

I have just taken a hard copy of all your comments - I will read them before writing out the school fees cheque every term, making it much more bearable!!

LunaticFringe · 26/06/2011 21:40

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michglas · 26/06/2011 21:40

I think the Governement are secret avid watchers of The Simpsons, and realised that in that episode the parents were the better teachers. They have convinced themselves this could work here without realising that life does not mirror cartoons.