If you have an 11 year old what's their bedtime and routine?

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We're struggling with bedtimes at the moment, DS11 still likes us to take him up to bed, but he lays on the floor saying he's too tired and it can take a long time to get him to go to the toilet, brush his teeth and get him up and into his bed. Some nights he picks on some tiny thing that has annoyed him and then starts getting angry about it, talking himself into a big angry tizzy about nothing and this then takes 45-60 mins to calm down, resulting in a later bedtime and more tiredness the next day. He insists that everyone at school goes to bed later than him but I think the reality is that he needs more sleep than he's getting.

So I can compare notes (and get some ideas) what time does your 11 year old go to bed and do they take themselves up or do you take them?

Well done, op! Great update.

Goes up to bed about 9, reads, we go up and kiss him .
He can draw out toothbrushing for ages, and can miss reading on account.
It’s been later the last week with it being so lovely in the evening.
Up at 7.30.

Marking my place. My 11yr old has turned into a pain at bedtime. No screens or smart phone but he still dicks around.

DD 11 washes, cleans teeth and in bed for 8, she either reads, chats to friends or draws, lights out at 9 on the dot, up for school at 7am, weekends she up till 10