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Prepping for brexit

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Numberonecook · 20/09/2018 10:42

Ive just started getting some bits together ready for brexit. As a food scientist I am very aware of how much produce comes into the country and the resources needed to get things around the country. Im also aware of the chain and how everything is ‘just in time’ And a delay in the chain could lead to serious shortages and price rises.

This really worries me as there is 5 of us to feed. So, what non food essentials do you think I should also consider? We are not prepping for huge disaster just 6 months or so. I’ve got things like toiletries, loo roll etc. Anything else?

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NeedAGoodUsernameThatIsntTaken · 23/12/2018 14:27

Posted in another pepper thread but posting here too.
Anyone with babies/ young toddlers, what is worth prepping?
Have a nearly 13 month old so thinking of getting

  • a few months supply of year 1 formula.
  • some uht milk, not sure how much to get
  • extra nappies and wipes and cotton buds
  • extra calpol
  • extra baby wash
  • 10 plus packs baby rice cakes
  • few packs baby porridge
  • extra packs of baby apple puree my baby loves
  • filing freezer with food he likes
Anything I'm missing? Does anyone know if its okay to give 1 year old uht long life full fat milk, is there a difference in nutrition values between uht and fresh milk?
Bluntness100 · 23/12/2018 14:29

You don't need to prep, the eu has instructed all member states to allow the current conditions to continue for nine months in the event of no deal to keep goods moving. I have a copy of the white paper.

NeedAGoodUsernameThatIsntTaken · 23/12/2018 14:33

Bluntness100 I would rather stock up on things that my baby will use and need just incase. Formula milk has a long shelf life and my baby will eventually use it up.

Bluntness100 · 23/12/2018 14:41

Sure. I'm just pointing out it's not necessary.

bellinisurge · 23/12/2018 15:36

The EU is not offering a transition for everything. Customs charges start from Day one. The 9 months is to allow lorry drivers not to be stranded and to cushion EU holiday businesses through the summer.
Given how messed up we have been over a "little thing " like drones at Gatwick are you really confident there will be no problems for No Deal. If you are, that's your decision. Don't presume to tell other people what choices they should make.

KatyMac · 23/12/2018 18:55

What products do we actually produce in this country? No point stockpiling things there will be too much of

& what foods will we have a glut off (apart from sugar beet)?

bellinisurge · 23/12/2018 19:01

Personally want to steer clear of the shops if it starts to get hairy. Regardless of whether it has a glut of turnips and Dysons or whatever.

KatyMac · 23/12/2018 19:04

Well yes but I'm thinking perhaps a bit longer term

We may have to return to more seasonal produce than we have had to for quite a while

bellinisurge · 23/12/2018 19:07

I grow a fair bit of my own veg. I'm used to seasonal eating.

ElyElyOy · 23/12/2018 19:33

It’s also worth bearing in mind that altough we might make things here, their components/ingredients often come from abroad (or indeed the components for the machines that produce the food + the labour to run the machines). In that respect I think even British “manufactured” products will go up in price.

ElyElyOy · 23/12/2018 19:38

Table 3.4 is a handy little piece of data

www.gov.uk/government/publications/food-statistics-pocketbook-2017/food-statistics-in-your-pocket-2017-global-and-uk-supply

Basically we import loads, except beverages. Basically after Brexit we can get pissed on beer, cider or whiskey (depending where you live) and be really thin Wink It will be like the Absolutely Fabulous Patsy Diet (without the Bolly, obviously)

KatyMac · 23/12/2018 19:44

That's interesting - I mean locally the produce is rape seed, sugar beet and a bit of lavender!

I'm surprised we import that much sugar tbh - I can see a lot of carrots and potatoes in our future

I don't garden or grow produce and I am unlikely to start

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bellinisurge · 15/01/2019 14:27

@EllaW , if anyone has any sense they will keep their stock at home secret. To stop neighbours relying on it rather than looking after themselves.

TomVeiga · 15/01/2019 22:47

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bellinisurge · 16/01/2019 05:36

CEO of uk ports that doesn't include Dover.

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bellinisurge · 16/01/2019 13:28

Thank God, @TomVeiga . HmmIt'll all be fine and people are worrying over nothing and the government is making plans over nothing. And Brexiteers in the Cabinet have said it would be a catastrophe to No Deal just to mess with us and with businesses. Hmm

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mirandaspanda · 16/01/2019 17:20

I have read the entire of this thread! There are some useful pieces of advice. I loathe the word prepper and all the connotations it has - yet I have always been one for being prepared. I realised I always keep a full freezer, always have dried milk and extra supplies over winter, I typically have 2-3 months of toiletries at one time (Ok at one stage I had a 2 years worth and decided to run that down.) Plenty of cold weather gear, camping gear as you would expect for people that live in the country.
In November, I started to run full cupboards, ie maybe 5 bags of rice and pasta, 12 cans of beans (small cupboards here), this is probably 2-3 weeks worth. Then I started a small supply of tins under the stairs. THis has grown. The freezer is rammed but with god knows what - I will eat the stuff in there though some of it is of dubious age (possibly 10 year old stuff!!!) and some is new.
I have been stockpiling as much of my prescriptions as I can, taking less ordering a day or two early but there are limits. Really don't want to even have to think about buying on the black market or internet order.... is that even legal? However, I could foresee many months of misery with only extremely limited drugs available. This worries me. (Obviously I have paracetmol etc)
Then there's cleaning products, loo rolls - how much of these do I need? I have no concept of how much we use as I always have spares.
But what really frightens me is the potential for rioting and anarchy. Honestly, I can imagine after a week or two of extremely limited food, people will do whatever they can to get their hands on it - whether that be fighting others for the last stick of bread, mugging people who've managed to buy food, looting, burglary for food, stabbings etc etc.
I really don't mean to sound so gloomy but I think we won't return to a barter system in this day age, greed and entitlement will take over for some people. With the army and police centred around keeping limit food and medicine supplies moving then there won't be much law and order either.
Gosh that sounds so doomsday. But with very limited food and medicines, I can only see it being survival of the fittest. And I really don't know how to prep for this other than put weight on as a precaution and continue stockpiling.

Tonsilss · 16/01/2019 17:29

Apparently one person uses about 100 toilet rolls a year.

bellinisurge · 16/01/2019 17:55

"Which Brexiteers said no deal is a catastrophe?"
Maybe you have heard of Michael Gove?

TomVeiga · 16/01/2019 23:38

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bellinisurge · 17/01/2019 06:02

So is he no longer of the true faith? Or Leadsom? This is a pretty silly way of looking at things. If you are not my version of True Believer you are a heretic Confused. That kind of politics is the British way, you know.

cloudtree · 17/01/2019 08:35

Dear me of course Gove is a brexiteer.

Anyway. If you don't want to stock up, don't stock up. Simple. But its a bit stupid coming onto the prepper boards where people spend time researching for themselves and thinking about how best to deal with possible situations and expecting everyone to say "Oh yes Tom says its fine so I'll stop being prepared now". Hmm