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Head is saying termination but heart is saying keep it

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NewName9856 · 28/05/2020 17:31

Name changed for this.

Hi all. I’m in such a dilemma and don’t know what to do. This is long as there’s a fair bit of background, but thank you so much if you read it all.

Three weeks ago the condom split. I took the MAP first thing the following morning and didn’t think any more of it, but clearly it didn’t work as I have just discovered that I am pregnant.

DP and I are already parents to a gorgeous DD who is 16 months old. She was very much planned and wanted and I was ecstatic when I found out I was pregnant with her. This time however....

I’m a second year university student, due to graduate in May/June of next year. I’ve worked out that this baby would be due in January next year. DD was also born in January, so there would be pretty much exactly two years between them. The prospect of trying to write a dissertation with a toddler AND a young baby is a daunting prospect. It’s hard enough trying to get work done with DD.

Then there are the financial worries. Right now we’re fine financially, but that’s because I get a student loan. My partner works full time and earns fairly good money, but his wage isn’t enough to cover all of the bills and outgoings. Obviously I’d only get student loans until I graduate, after which point I’d need to find a job fairly quickly.

Then there’s also the problem of childcare... we’re very lucky that my parents are happy to look after DD whilst I’m at uni (obviously not NOW but normally....) but I think it’s unfair of me to expect them to look after a young baby and a toddler. So we would have to find childcare for the new baby whilst I was at uni, and that’ll likely be very expensive (although I think student finance do pay a certain amount of childcare expenses). I have considered taking a year off uni, but I already took a year off to have DD and I doubt they would let me take another year off (they only allow it under ‘exceptional’ circumstances). Plus I wouldn’t be getting a student loan which would put us under financial strain.

When I took a year off with DD we didn’t have the financial worries we would now, as I had a fair bit of money in savings from the job I had before I started uni. Obviously we used most of that money up. We still have a little bit left but it would only last a couple of months if that.

So, all of this (the stress of trying to get work done with two young children, the potential financial worries, trying to job hunt with a baby ect) is making me think termination is the most sensible option. But, the heart isn’t sensible.... My heart is telling me to keep the baby. That I would regret having a termination. That many many people have babies in far worse situations than us. That things might be a bit tight for a few months but not forever. When I first found out, I actually felt kind of happy and excited. Albeit very very fleetingly and it was quickly replaced by panic... but it was there. DP and I DO want more children, but our plan was for me to finish uni and get a job before we even considered having any more.

Also.. I’ve previously had a miscarriage. A few months before falling pregnant with DD I lost a baby at 14 weeks. It was utterly heart wrenching and the fact that I am now considering deliberately ending a pregnancy makes me feel very strange and sad. I am 100% pro choice and would never ever judge anyone else for having a termination, but I never imagined I would find myself in this situation. I found out a few days ago and I switch from being utterly determined to keep the baby, even as far as thinking of names ect, to being determined that I’m going to get a termination. I’ve sat staring at the phone a few times but can’t quite bring myself to pick it up and book the appointment. DP has said it is ultimately my decision and that he will support me whatever I choose, but I can tell that he is leaning towards wanting me to keep the baby. We are still young (I’m 26, he’s 27), so we have plenty of time to have more children.

So, it seems to me that my options are;

  • Continue the pregnancy and continue uni, but take on the extra stress of trying to get work/studying done whilst looking after two young children, also take on extra financial burden of childcare and just having another child.
  • Continue the pregnancy but drop out of uni. I really don’t want to do this as I enjoy uni and worked hard to get in and keep my grades up and am loathe to throw it away. I MAY be able to take another year off but this isn’t guaranteed and would cause financial strain as we wouldn’t have my student loan coming in. I would have to find a job ASAP in order to qualify for maternity allowance, just so we would have some money coming in (DP would still be working of course but again, his wage alone isn’t enough to support us). But who would take on a pregnant employee?? Finding a job would be quite hard in this current climate, especially if I’m pregnant, although I am registered with a job agency and have done temp work before which makes it a bit easier.
  • Or, I could get a termination and life would continue as it is now. This seems like the most sensible option to me but again, my heart is saying no.

I am so confused and sad 😢 I know none of you can tell me what to do and it’s ultimately my decision, but just some input would be nice. What would you do in my situation?

Thank you so much if you’ve read all of this! Flowers

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NuffSaidSam · 28/05/2020 17:45

As you say, it's not a decision that anyone can make for you. For me, it's the kind of decision needs to be made with the heart and not the head though.

FreeKitties · 28/05/2020 17:57

OP can you access termination counselling service ? They might help you talk this through?

My personal advice as the mum of an accidental pregnancy which completely turned my life upside down is- go with your heart.

Can you spend one day imagining you decide to terminate and think about all that entails and what your future might look like after that decision, and then spend the next day imagining you decide to continue the pregnancy and think about all that entails and what your future might look like after that decision... that might give you a bit of clarity

TippingTulips · 28/05/2020 18:05

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Stillfunny · 28/05/2020 18:07

I am probably your parent's age and I know I would have no problem helping you with childcare. That is a pretty OK gap and I have done it for a relative.
It is hard for you to see the long term future , but life does have a way of working out. It will be tough , but not forever .
Having a baby is an emotional decision , so the heartfelt feelings count for a lot.
If you were my DD , I would advise you to go for it. I dont think you would ever regret it . But you might if you decide for a termination . I dont mean to be judgemental , just life experiences. Flowers

NewName9856 · 28/05/2020 18:15

@TippingTulips Yes, this is my first degree. I know about parenting allowances ect as I get one for my DD. I didn’t know it was 85% of childcare costs!

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NewName9856 · 28/05/2020 18:29

Thank you @TippingTulips Smile

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Newuser123123 · 28/05/2020 18:34

I have 2, 2 years apart and it's a lovely age gap, now they're a bit older they play together and it's much easier than having one. I am 100% pro choice but I think you will be fine and it will be manageable. I had mine a similar age to you and now they're both (just) starting school my time and opportunities are opening up x

YummyVeggie · 28/05/2020 18:48

I’d go with your heart, OP.

Sittingontheveranda · 28/05/2020 19:04

I had to make a similar choice a few years ago. We decided to go through with the pregnancy. Like you, I had had a miscarriage and wanted another child but not at that time. DC2 is lovely but there have been many many times I regretted the decision. We had to make decisions that we wouldn’t have made otherwise and DC2 wasn’t an ‘easy’ child. DC2 is now at school and things are easier but truthfully our relationship suffered a lot. I am sure I wouldn’t still be with DH if I didn’t have DC2.

Worryallthetime · 28/05/2020 19:16

Go with your heart 100%.

YouKnowIKnowYouKnowIKnow · 02/06/2020 22:13

Have you got any friends IRL that you could talk to about this? Any mum friends that you could reach out to? Or your University, do they offer any counselling?

MondeoFan · 02/06/2020 22:40

Continue the pregnancy and continue uni that's what I'd do.
It will be stressful and it will be hard I don't doubt that, 2 years between them is a lovely age.

Oly4 · 02/06/2020 22:44

I’d also continue the pregnancy and continue uni. Two years is a lovely age gap.
It will be a tough few years maybe but you’ll muddle through, graduate and get a job and earn cash, and your financial situation will improve.
Also, could you speak to your parents? Tell them your concerns and how worried you are.
You may be very surprised but o bet they would love more grandchildren and will try to help you.
Good luck

Oly4 · 02/06/2020 22:45

I also agree that you should speak to the uni counsellor as they may be able to help you sort things financially.
Does the university have a crisis fund? I got 2K at uni when in dire straits

PinkmansCut · 02/06/2020 22:51

You'll make it work. I got pregnant eight months after having my first, and had to announce my pregnancy one month after returning from maternity leave. It was tough and I cried many many times trying to work out how to afford it. But DS is worth it.
My family still helped even though I was sure that they would say that two under two was too much! I got a much better whilst on maternity leave after DS and now everything is great. I did accumulate a bit of debt paying for childcare during the early years but I'd rather have 5K in debt in order to carry on working and progressing than 5K debt for a pointless wedding or holiday. It does get easier too, mine are 5 and 3 and it's great watching them play and chat together.

Clemmieandareallybigbunfight · 02/06/2020 23:40

I think having a termination you aren't totally sure about is something you can cope with long term, lots of people do, but having a termination you don't want but think you should have is different and much, much harder for you both to live with.

SmithsBand · 03/06/2020 09:20

Hi OP, I found myself in a similar situation to you 3 years ago. Without going into all the details I decided to terminate. I was distraught to have found myself in that position but I knew I just couldn't have another child at that time.

Anyway 3 years on and I have just found out I'm pregnant again (planned this time). I cannot look back on the termination with regret as it was definitely the right decision at that time.

It's all very well saying think with your heart, but I think you're right to also think about the practicalities too.

IdblowJonSnow · 03/06/2020 09:33

What a tricky decision. I definitely wouldn't quit uni. Could you start your dissertation now and get that done before the baby comes? If you contact the uni there might be all sorts of support and flexibility they can offer you. I'd imagine so much of it will be online from September anyway?
In your circs I think I would terminate but you sound like you want to continue so try to find out more details before making your decision?
If your husband also wants to go ahead, maybe he should also be seeing what he could do to help, temporarily cut his hours down for example so you can finish your course. It shouldn't all be on you to make it work. BTW you cant send a tiny baby to nursery, they usually have to be at least 3 months old.

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Aquamarine1029 · 03/06/2020 19:18

Given everything you've said, I do not think you should have an abortion. Just the thought of it fills you with sadness, guilt and regret already, and those emotions are very hard to live with.

As for uni, finances, child care, blah blah blah, you'll be amazed at how things work themselves out. Life is constantly throwing a spanner into the works, but you get through it! You're intelligent and motivated, so I have no doubt you'll have a brilliant future ahead. One big positive of having another baby now is that you don't have to go back to baby land years down the road, which brings along a whole host of other challenges.

Doritmama1 · 06/06/2020 22:27

Personally, i would say follow ur heart. Anything is possible i was in a sitaution like yourself but i only have one child. I found i was pregnant at 18 and had already been accepted to university and proceeded to continue with uni whilst pregnant and giving birth. I graudated two years ago after 4 years at uni including sandwich year of course. I would advise that you figure out your dissertation topic this summer as the summer is always long whilst at university and start reading and taking notes because trust me starting in the summer will take soooooo much pressure off. If you wanna keep the baby then dont let how hard it willyou off because nothing is easy. I would advise writing a list of pros and cons with your partner and discussing it with your parents to see if they would be willing to support you with childcare as a parent myself i cant see why they would say no 😊

candle18 · 06/06/2020 22:45

If your heart is telling you to have the baby I wouldn’t ignore that. The emotional turmoil of having a termination when you’re not 100% sure could end up giving you more problems than coping with a new baby whilst at uni.