Pregnancy post-MC, bring your cake but no more wine or tightie whities - Totally's Grads continued part 3....

[clareanna]

Alba- your wish is my command!!

Hi MEITA lovely to hear from you....WOW you re nearly there !!!Amazing isn t it? After what we ve experienced.

I m good 5 weeks left at work looking foreward to finishig now its getting hard now.My feet are swelling daily...nice!!!!

Dead excited as its my sister's wedding in 2 weeks soo can t wait for that....Just hope my feet hold up in my strappy heels

Hope you sort out some relief/help for your pain.U bought loads? We seem to buying stuff constantly shes already got a wardrobe full of cute pink clothes!!!! Soo cute ,Take care X

Hi all. Been away for a few days. Really sorry to hear Moof's news - I hope tomorrow goes well for you. Magic - congrats on the two and your pic is lovely. Feeling quite tired after travelling so not got time to namecheck more people, but wanted to say hi. Feeling a bit disheartened that I look fat all over instead of having just a bump - saw my DH's cousin yesterday who is also 15 wks pg with twins and she just had a bump, but not a huge abdomen like me which just extends down to my tummy . I am quite petite so maybe it just makes it worse? Am not usually vain, but this has really annoyed me!

magic amazing news!!! Twins wow!!!
So chuffed for you !

Meita your midwife sounds awful. In your situation I'd seriously consider looking for an independent midwife or doula, so I had someone who actually cared about me. Definitely think you should get a second opinion on the SPD.

Morning all, have had my ginger jam on toast so have a window of opportunity to catch up with everyone! Thanks for your well wishes ladies It still hasn't sunk in and I don't think it will for a while, well at least until I am out of the 1st trimester woods.

WYG - don't worry your bump will come, you will wake up one morning and will have gone pop over night

louisesh try feet up and spray magicool on them, helped me with the swelling when I had dd1.

babybunny I wish I could nap during the day! Christmas day baby - very exciting (and you to Gi1da!)!

Alba your poor boy catching the pox twice! Hop he is ok and thumbs up for the potty training

Meita Some MWs have no tact!! There's warning you and then scaring the hell out of you! Reflexology may help to turn babe, but you'll need to find a maternity reflexologist. Also you could try laying on your side or with your belly hanging in front of you on all 4s?

Good luck with the house moved Redheadgal

Good news on the test liah

Yay on the kicking and bubbles Unbuffy and happygirl very exciting - I can't wait for that

Zayja good luck with the scan tomorrow

Hi to Muser, Clareanna Bunder and anyone else I have missed!

Magic!!! That's magic!! Two of my brothers are identical twins, my Dad always said it was "buy one get one free" that day. Great fun, they are best mates still and hang out together all the time even as adults.

WYG - I'm just fat all over too, it's starting to take shape (at 20 weeks) - but wouldn't want anyone guessing "pregnant or fat" right now. I have bump envy too...

Meita - don't let your MW get you down, my cousin was the same and it is ok. My friend was the same and she went swimming every day in the last two weeks (apparently the buoyancy can help the baby to move?) - not sure if it worked as she only had the baby last week and I haven't seen her yet! But maybe floating in the pool would help if it's an option?

Hi to everyone else, I'll just go ditto to what Magic just wrote as that was an excellent piece of namechecking

Monday's List:
Meita - baby#1 - (not telling) ? 37+6 wks, due 17th August
Boodleboot - baby#3 - 1DD {10} 1DS {5} - 33+5 wks - due 12th Sept
TFLS - baby#1 - 32+5 wks, due 23 Sept
LeeWT - baby#2 (DD1 2yrs) 32+5 wks, due 30th Sept
Louisesh - baby#1, 31+3 wks, due 1st Oct
SamanthaB123 baby#3(2x DD's 11 & 9 yrs) 28+5 wks, EDD 20th October
Unbuffy - baby#2 (DD 18 months) - 23+2 wks EDD 27th November
HappyGirl - baby#1, 21+5 weeks, EDD 8th December
Zayja - baby#1, 21+2 wks, EDD 11th December
Goodluckbear - baby#1, 20+2 wks, EDD 18th December
Malteser1981 - baby#1, 20+2 wks, EDD 18th December
Gilda - baby#1 - 19+2 wks, due 25th December - next scan 9th Aug
BunnyBaby - baby#3 - 19+2 wks, due 25th December
LucyT66 - baby#1 19+3 wks EDD 26th December
sparklyrainbow- Baby#1 18+4 wks EDD 30th December- next scan 11th Aug
AlbaDeTamble - baby#2 (DS 2) - 18 wks EDD 3rd January
toomuchteaching - baby#1 17+5 wks EDD 5th January - next scan 17th August
Redheadgal - baby#1 17+4 wks EDD 6th January 2011 - next scan 20 August
diggingforvictory - baby#4 (DS 1) 16+2 wks EDD 15th January
WestYorkshireGirl - baby#1, 15+6 weeks EDD January 18th
Clareanna - baby#2, one DS, 12+4 weeks EDD 11th Feb 2011
LilRedWG - baby#2, 1DD, 12 weeks EDD 14th Feb
Muser - baby#1, 10+1 weeks, EDD 27th Feb, Next scan 16 Aug
BUnderTheBonnet - baby#2, 1DD 9+6 weeks 1st March
Magic8ballhastheanswers babies #3&4 7 weeks EDD 20th March 2011
Liahgen - baby#6 6+4 weeks EDD 15th March

The babies are arriving! Huge congratulations to:
Totally with daughter Faith Juliet, 9lb5oz born Tuesday 16th February 2010
Amyboo with son Matthew James, 4.714kg (10lb3oz) born Tuesday 30th March 2010
Hoops with son Benjamin Scott, 7lb4oz born Friday 2nd April 2010
Memorylapse with daughter Olivia, born Friday 16th April 2010
Becky78 with son Thomas Christopher born 22nd May - 9lb 1oz

We share the pain and mourn the loss with:
Jollster - one DC, two babies lost, recent MMC w9/@11, 26th Feb
Cheepz - one DS, recent MMC w9, 26th March
Freezing - one DD, recent MC w11, 28th March
BarrenBrook - third and most recent MMC 12th May
MsJL - 4th and most recent MC determined 8th June
LadyBee - one DS, most recent MC determined 21st July

Just one more day until I can see my little one again! So very excited!

alba - thanks for the reassurance about a small bump, it's hard to appreciate being small when you really want an obvious bump! So, GLB and WYG, I too have bump envy like you!!!

meita do you mind if I ask what kinds of things you put in your birth plan? It's probably about the time for me to start some research, but unsure where to begin. I'm not sure I like my midwives (a team of 3) either, but I think I'll hang in there this time around. I just feels as though I'm always a bit rushed and that they also don't seem to realize I'm a bit more needy after having a mmc last time. Good thing you had your dh with you to speak up, sheesh - some people!

happy, about feeling kicks...I read somewhere to lie flat on your back and very still. Put both hands gently on your tummy and wait to feel movement. Of course I sometimes ask very nicely for baby to move. It works for me, but louise is right, I'm sure it depends on positioning of the baby and placenta, etc.

Hope you all had lovely weekends!!!

Hi everyone

Can i join you? I have just found out i am pregnant, 4+1, EDD 10th April, so very early days for me! I haven't had a mc but i gave birth to my beautiful stillborn boy, caused by cord prolapse, in March this year. So i am very nervous about this pregnancy and probably will be until i get to take my baby home!

I think i'm just going to camp out in hospital and refuse to leave for the last 4 weeks!

Welcome osch and congrats on your pregnancy. This is a great thread for nervous moms, a place where you can get a lot of support. So very sorry to hear about your stillborn son. I think you'd have every right to check in to the hospital a month early this time around.

Hi Osch - Welcome! Sorry to hear about your baby boy, I don't blame you for being nervous but you are in the right place

I am so tired

Hi everyone!

I'm too rubbish to name check - I think of a dozen things to write, then forget them all immediately.

I did want to wish meita luck with persuading the baby to move! I tried all sorts of hocus pocus with my DD (breech). Acupunture can be very successful - they use moxibustion (burning a cigar of herbs near your toes) rather than needles if they ake you squeamish. It definitely made DD wriggle, but didn't persuade her to turn, but your little one hasn't got as far to move. Also, lots of posterior babies turn in the first few hours of labour, if not before, so make sure you do plently of forwards leaning positions, rather than lying on your back. Grab a birth pool if you can.

Hi all, been to PILs for their ruby anniversary weekend (I can't imagine being married that long!!), went to see Billy Elliot which was way better than I expected, really good fun.

So sorry to get back and read your news moofold, I hope today was as ok as it could be, I had an ERPC too, and found the whole thing scary but at least I knew exactly what and when, IYSWIM. Take care of yourself.

Magic - amazing. So exciting. Gosh... I think I'd be feeling overwhelmed, but every set of twins I know (and we had 11 pairs in our last year at school) are just brilliant.

Welcome Osch, sorry to hear about your little boy, this is definitely the nervous place to be.

Unbuffy welcome back! Meita sorry about rubbish midwife, some people grr.. . Alba sorry about the pox! And zayja good luck for the scan. I think I've missed a lot of people, but I've run out of oomph!

Feeling the bubbles every day now, when I lie still and concentrate, and I think I can feel them outside too, they're just like tiny skin twitches though, hardly noticeable at all. I think it helps that I am was quite small, and maybe I've got a luckily placed placenta. Speaking of which, my DH and I play fat or pregnant every time we go out. I don't know why because I definitely wouldn't get the pregnant vote! I'm popping the button on my size 10 jeans by the evening, but it's not really a bump, more a spreading! So like WYG, GLB and zayja I'm on the envy list, although I think I'll get annoyed when nothing I own fits, so maybe I shouldn't wish it on myself.

Anyone got any good advice on bra measuring? Went to a John Lewis today on way back from PILS (there isn't really one near by) but they had no appointments, v annoying. Please don't say Bravissimo, I'm bursting out of my 34Bs but not approaching their realms yet! Any advice? I've never had much luck with M+S.

Have a lush evening all!

Thanks for the reassurance about fat vs bump look GLB, Zayja, Magic and toomuchteaching! I weighed myself today (do this weekly since about week 8) and have put on 0.3 kg since then which I know is good so know it's not fat, but it I feel quite self-conscious about it! DH says he loves it though and has taken to cuddling it lots!

I am 16 weeks on Weds - do you know when I might start to feel anything?

toomuchteaching I had a bit of a 'do' re bra fittings. Went to M&S and came out with a dowdy thing which was quite unflattering. A friend told me about the 'Hot Milk' maternity and nursing range and I went to an independent shop which sold them. M&S told me I had gone from a 36B to 38B and the lady in the shop said that was ridiculous as I am so small and the boob fairy hasn't really arrived yet. Because the Hot Milk range have 6 hooks they can expand with your pregnancy and she fitted me a 34c! It wasn't cheap - about £35, but it is very supportive (even though it's not underwired) and they sell matching knickers. It's very feminine and very comfy so IMO it's best to pay more for something nice and that will last than something that makes you feel about 70!. If you google them, you can see the range and maybe stockists.

Welcome to osch and sorry to hear about your baby.

Morning all

Sitting in the exhaustion corner at the moment so will jsut wave feebly at everyone, and say welcome Osch and pull up a pew.

After my knackering week away and (during writing of) the last post, my lovely neighbour/almost grandmother had a fall and broke the top of her femur. Cue ambulance, hospital and mad phoning round her family and mine. Etc. Also we put dd in the 'big bed' (ie turned the cotbed into a bedbed) for the first time on Sunday. Soooo no sleep all round and much worrying and I just want to sleep for about a month now.

love to all, happy scans zayja, and will try to be more organised soon x

Morning all -- not as clever as SamB with fantastic bold headings, but otherwise, today's list below. Much easier now it's streamlined! Welcome Osch, I've added your details. So sorry to hear about your little boy, that's so so sad. I would for sure be camped out in the hospital for at least the last month.
Jollster - 10 weeks now? Thinking of you, hoping you have a lovely reassuring scan very soon now.
Clareanna - scan yesterday? what news? will assume no news is good news and you simply had no time between getting back from scan and rushing off again last night?
Moof and Ladybee, thinking of you both.
Everyone with small bumps and tiny weight gains ... I'm feeling a little at having put on 6kg so far!! . My excuse is that I'd actually lost about 3kg during previous pg and miscarriages, so half of it doesn't really count as was only getting back to normal (that's my excuse and I'm sticking with it....)
Waves to all, sorry for limited namechecks but have to get on with work....

Tuesday's List:
Meita - baby#1 - (not telling) ? 38 wks, due 17th August
Boodleboot - baby#3 - 1DD {10} 1DS {5} - 33+6wks - due 12th Sept
TFLS - baby#1 - 32+6 wks, due 23 Sept
LeeWT - baby#2 (DD1 2yrs) 32+6 wks, due 30th Sept
Louisesh - baby#1, 31+4 wks, due 1st Oct
SamanthaB123 baby#3(2x DD's 11 & 9 yrs) 28+6 wks, EDD 20th October
Unbuffy - baby#2 (DD 18 months) - 23+3 wks EDD 27th November
HappyGirl - baby#1, 21+6 weeks, EDD 8th December
Zayja - baby#1, 21+3 wks, EDD 11th December
Goodluckbear - baby#1, 20+3 wks, EDD 18th December
Malteser1981 - baby#1, 20+3 wks, EDD 18th December
Gilda - baby#1 - 19+3 wks, due 25th December - next scan 9th Aug
BunnyBaby - baby#3 - 19+3 wks, due 25th December
LucyT66 - baby#1 19+4 wks EDD 26th December
sparklyrainbow- Baby#1 18+5 wks EDD 30th December- next scan 11th Aug
AlbaDeTamble - baby#2 (DS 2) - 18+1 wks EDD 3rd January
toomuchteaching - baby#1 17+6 wks EDD 5th January - next scan 17th August
Redheadgal - baby#1 17+5 wks EDD 6th January 2011 - next scan 20 August
diggingforvictory - baby#4 (DS 1) 16+3 wks EDD 15th January
WestYorkshireGirl - baby#1, 16 weeks EDD January 18th
Clareanna - baby#2, one DS, 12+5 weeks EDD 11th Feb 2011
LilRedWG - baby#2, 1DD, 12+1 weeks EDD 14th Feb
Muser - baby#1, 10+2 weeks, EDD 27th Feb, Next scan 16 Aug
BUnderTheBonnet - baby#2, 1DD 10 weeks 1st March
Magic8ballhastheanswers babies #3&4 7+1 weeks EDD 20th March 2011
Liahgen - baby#6 6+5 weeks EDD 15th March
Osch - baby #? 4+2 weeks EDD 10th April

The babies are arriving! Huge congratulations to:
Totally with daughter Faith Juliet, 9lb5oz born Tuesday 16th February 2010
Amyboo with son Matthew James, 4.714kg (10lb3oz) born Tuesday 30th March 2010
Hoops with son Benjamin Scott, 7lb4oz born Friday 2nd April 2010
Memorylapse with daughter Olivia, born Friday 16th April 2010
Becky78 with son Thomas Christopher born 22nd May - 9lb 1oz

We share the pain and mourn the loss with:
Jollster - one DC, two babies lost, recent MMC w9/@11, 26th Feb
Cheepz - one DS, recent MMC w9, 26th March
Freezing - one DD, recent MC w11, 28th March
BarrenBrook - third and most recent MMC 12th May
MsJL - 4th and most recent MC determined 8th June
LadyBee - one DS, most recent MC determined 21st July

Good afternoon!

Next scan tomorrow, and having bloods taken too. I have a sense of impending doom - tell me I'm being silly, please

-(((o> not quite sure that's a particularly good fish, but hope will suffice for you BUnder

But seriously, I was absolutely petrified and couldn't think straight for at least 48 hrs before both 10 and 12 week scans... the sense of impending doom is, in my experience, normal - and doesn't mean there's any problem at all. Do all you can to try to relax, there are much better odds of all being fine than there being a problem, your last scan was after 8 weeks, that upped your odds of all good even more. It's going to be wonderful seeing your little one again (though if you're anything like me it'll simply be a feeling of exhausted relief after all the nervous energy you're expending now...)

Good luck, and no, you're not being silly

Big (fishy) wave at Jolls

Osch welcome

BUnder totally sympathise re scan fretting, hang in there!

Buffs welcome back. How'd it go on taking the puppies with you? I nearly snorted my tea when I read that, I can barely keep track of my toothbrush when I go away, let alone multiple wriggly doggies!

WestYorks ooo Hotmilk, I'm trying to find somewhere that stocks them. Not confident enough to buy online as I want to get fitted. Norkage is a novelty to me so don't trust my own judgement to get right size.

Zayja how'd the scan go? Did you find out pink or blue?

MagicEightBallCameUpTrumps still at your news, are you getting used to the idea?

Meita a wedgie to your midwife! I heard (possible urban myth warning) that as so many women now spend a lot of time slumping in office chairs and laying back on big sofas we're tilted backwards more than a generation or so ago when women sat more upright or were up and about. Hence more incidences of baby settling back to back. My yoga teacher recommended spending some time in forward leaning poses to try to counterbalance. Swimming would also seem to work to same principle if you're doing downward facing swimming (not butterfly if you are so bold as to try!) Good luck in getting a turn.

A huge big wave and salute to everyone I haven't mentioned. Hope everyone is swell(ing).

Ps has any one tried hypnobirthing or is it mumbojumboesque?

Pps re the loss section, I was wondering about adding Moof then wondered if it would be kindest to add names but not the dates so it's not a sharp reminder when our friends come to visit, or indeed when they come back for good. Any thoughts? ps Moo if you are reading, have been thinking if you and hoping all is as well as can be. [hug]

Eve-nin all!

I feel so bloody sick today, it's stepped up a notch. Dear god. Not liking this evening sickness either.

BRB once am tucked up in bed with craptop!

good luck for the scan today bunder!!

not even going to attempt namechecking everybody else as we have grown to mahoosive proportions (and thats not just my arse!) on this thread and i will surely offend someone....but i am so pleased to see that we have so many ladies at all the diff stages of pregnancy....very exciting!! I am sure that meita lee sam lou and i will be starting a totallys grad's and beyond* thread to share the joys and support eachother through new parenthood....good to have somewhere to graduate to i think.....

i am now 34 wks, measuring 36wks, all out front like i have swallowed the proverbial beach ball....heartburn like you cannot believe, am waking up in the night to have to take gaviscon....my restless leg syndrome means that i spend all night fidgeting and kicking my husband which he is not that impressed with.....every single thing that comes out of my mouth is a moan......i have itchy nipples, thrush, bleeding piles and have just started to get stretch marks behind my knees - oh the joys of my body discovering new and exciting places to stretch FFS!!

.....and breathe......

that said ONLY SIX WEEKS TIL I SEE MY BABY WOOOOHOOO!!!!

i finish work this friday and am looking forward to having the rest of the hols with my kids and my mother has offered to come and help me spring clean the house top to bottom next week which is very welcome as i have been feeling soo crappy lately that housework has slipped somewhat....oops.... i am suprised at how tired i have been, working fulltime and five little kittens who really come alive at nighttime!!

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Morning all

Nice to hear from you Boodle, hope you feel better soon. Are you nesting yet?! No mad cleaning in the middle of the night kicked in or anyfink? I feel we ought to know...

Hi fishy Gilda lady, yep, holiday was fine - even with small and wriggly things. Y'see, they didn't have their eyes open and weren't running around last week. But they are now, and now the fun really starts... weaning, poo everywhere, non-stop noise... At least that's all over in 8 weeks though, not like with children... I too was wondering about the list, but am too shy and scared of offending to ask

Hi magictwinball, is sickness worser with two then? In which case I don't want 'em... You have lots of sympathy from here but not much advice I'm afraid - I never found a way to solve it, only to bear it, and Lucozade (or similar) as soon as your blood sugar dips can get pretty revolting pretty quickly (but does seem to do the trick somewhat). Good luck, lady!

Whoosh to you too, Jolls... you need to settle down and stop rushing in and out

Alba I too have NON-bump envy, since I look rather like a big blob (not pretty at the seaside last week) and I am convinced that I don't look pregnant, just very podgy. You'd think that bump would start to look like a bump once you're into maternity clothing, no? Grrr.

Lots of luck Bunder for today, I'm sure there's nothing to worry about but I agree I too was totally terrified and had made up my mind for the worst - easier not to be disappointed that way. Thinking of you

Zayja how did the scan go?

WYG and Toomuch I HATE MATERNITY BRAS. And nursing bras. And bra-fitting ladies. And sleep bras. Why is it, the only time in one's life when one has major boobage and wants people to focus on them not the huge lump underneath we're strapped into things that look like part of a catapault on each side? They reach from waist to neck and have straps like something off a buggy and are totally unflattering and don't fit properly and refuse to let any cleavage out since they all come so high and sit so far in in the middle and keep coming unpopped and breathe. huff huff huff...

And after that rant I think I'd better head off for a bit! Hello everyone I've missed out, hope all is going well for everyone especially those moving house, feeling knackered (come and join the exhaustion corner), and all those waiting for scans, midwives to pull out fingers (me too) and so on.

x

Hi Alba

Computer gone odd hence extra greeting at the end - sorry and have some extra waves on the house!!

Good luck for the scan today BUnder!!! Very normal to feel worried, I can't do the fish sign, but I'm thinking fish slap for you. Let us know how you get on, thinking of you.

Hi boodle - not long now!! Exciting!!

Welcome to Osch, glad you've found us, you've been through the mill.

Jolls!! Glad to see you still rushing in and out, looking forward to you stopping with us for good

Waves to everyone! You know what they should bring back - a tea lady for the office, you know, with a trolley with cake on and you get tea in a proper cup and saucer. That would be ace.