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Gosh, a 7am post!! Very impressive fettle!

Oh seaside, it does look like a big boy bed is looming! Although hopfully he'll start to settle a bit more once he's fully better? How was he last night? And how was Toby fettle? Did he wake up again last night? Theo came into my bed again last night at 12.45... I let him stay as well . I really must start putting him back to his own bed but he gets so upset about it and has a cough at the moment so he's sick so easily. I know you said the 'no cry sleep solution' worked for you with your sickie baby didn't it Fettle? Must try!!!!

Thinking about the comment you made about DD1's friends Greedy, can I ask my MN pals' advise about something and check that I'm not being unreasonable . I know this is going to sound delusional, but genuinely DS1 is a nice, kind, quite quiet boy... He has his moments of course and can be as naughty as any other kid, but generally he's no bother. Anyway, a lady I knew had a daughter starting school in the same class as Max and we agreed that I would pick her daughter up on one day of the week and she would take max another day of the week. That way it cuts down on after-school club. Seemed like a great idea, and I hate to be stereo-typical, but I thought a girl in the house would be no extra work or hassle than having my 2 boys there. But oh my God it couldn't be further from the truth! This has been a massive insight into the fact that girls aren't all about quietly colouring in and talking about fairies . So... I have her for 2 hours a week and Max goes to hers for 2 hours a week. Not long at all really, but as a result of it they are becoming quite close friends. Anyway, she's cheeky, boistrous, destructive and sometimes just plain rude! For 2 weeks in a row she's practically torn Max's room apart so everything is piled up at the door trying to stop me getting in. I know he's playing his part in it, but I stood outside for a while to listen and she was definately leadig this exercise. Then at dinner, she said it looked yuck and didn't want most of it, she was doing a pretend cough all over her plate and the table, she was putting her feet on the table and wouldn't take them down, she climbed under the table and wouldn't come out when I asked... She's also not very nice to DS2 when she comes round and shouts at him if he tries to play with what they are doing. To be fair he does tend to ruin their game but thats not the point. Aaargh, so what do I do???? I feel funny about trying to change the arrangement as my friend needs it more than I do. We could manage with Max not going to her house but I set it up really as I thought it would be good for Max to make a new friend in his class, and it does help out a bit. Also their teacher has noticed their friendship and spoke to me about it. She said that although she thinks its OK for now, she said she was going to keep a close eye on it as she thought the girl was dominating Max and she would maybe split them up more. They've only been at school for 2 months so it can't be good if she's noticed. Sorry for the rant, but I'm just not sure what to do... I know I can't chose DS1's friends for him, but I'm leaning towards cancelling the arrangement (once I've given my friend some notice) because for the last 2 or 3 weeks I've ended up cross and telling DS1 and this girl off when I should be enjoying my sons company as I'm not at work. All advice welcome!!!!! By the way, tomorrow they are banned from his bedroom and will have to stay downstairs with me, but I'm sure it will still be a battle of wills...

Thanks in advance if you made it to the end of that epic paragraph!

Always check my emails and headlines first thing every morning. Chooster! Just in case dh has written or anything has happened overnight out there. Can do it in my phone so quite quick and easy!!

Tough about your friend and daughter. She sounds awful!!! I really wouldn't like dd and friend doing that in my house and would hate to think of her being rude at someone elses house. How well do u know the mother? Can you be honest about it all? She may be completely unaware about her childs behaviour. It could be that the childrn are bringing out the worst in each other. Dd had a friend like that. Who we eventually had to stop seeing and the school seperated into different classes! They get on fine now but not as close as they were and both behaviour calmed back to normal. V hard thing to do tho - appear to critisise a friends child! Good luck!

Must go get dd from school. Toby not woken since so hoping it a one off. Def try no cry sleep solution! She fab. If only to make u feel what u currently doing is only wrong if u not happy with it. There are no set rules on where and how children should sleep!!!!

Thanks Fettle! I dont know her that well thats part of the problem I guess... And yes you are right, I think they do bring out the worst in each other. I'll maybe keep an eye on it until xmas and then decide what to do... Tomorrow they will be on a pretty tight rein! (she says full of confidence that she can control two 5 yr olds ).

Of course thats why you are logged on so early - I just didn't think! It must be awful having that worry as the first thing you think about when you wake up.

Not really a worry. Just want to hear from him!! as I miss him. His regiment have had a few injuries recently. But for some reason I'm still feeling an amazing sense of calm that he will be coming home in one piece. Don't suppose I can allow myself to worry about him or else I'll crack!!!

Must watch katie price do her challenge. Never watch celebrity In jungle but it my guilty pleasure this week!!!!

Good luck controlling your 5 year olds. Nothing wrong with some telly if they get too raucous!!!

hiya

chooster- i think you have yourself a bit of a predicament! Tis the reason I have never agreed to these kind of arrangements- my sister does it and has ended up getting really cheesed off with the boy she has to look after because he is such a drip and crys and whinges all the time . I think you might just have to tell her straight... hope it went better yesterday though.

fettle- I think of you whenever there is news about afghanistan. I think people forget about the families at home, having this awful waiting . big hug.

hi to everyone else.

we have got plumber doing our bathroom so making do with downstairs cloakroom- i need to wash my hair and will have to resort to the tiny basin in there or the kitchen sink... Can't wait for it all to be done- will be great. We have had this horrendous grey suite with the tiniest corner bath ever- I mean only Dexter can lie down in it! And a rubbish shower- have got a mate that works for a fancy shower company and got a fab deal on this super poncy digital shower that you press this button on the wall outside the cubicle and it goes on at just the right temp... apparently! DP is very excited. (Gadget alert) All I can think is that the kids are going to keep pressing the blooming thing and putting the shower on for fun ...

Fettle, thinking of you, as always. Thanks for the tip about tummy time on a pillow, we have huge cushions on one of our sofas and they are firm, so I have been laying her on those for tummy time, and she?s getting pretty good at lifting her head
Threenager sounds scary
Love that Toby has said mummy
Have I gone back in time? Is Jordan back in the jungle?

Seaside, love the sound of commando style crawling . How are you all? I hope C is feeling better and you are getting some sleep. Hope mumma is being said for happy smiley reasons now more of that and less of the ?shee?

Honeyapple, congrats for your SIL, it?ll be perfect practise for your training. Dh massaged my back with oil during labour ? but it was only the oil, no aroma because I have a low blood pressure and that doesn?t go well with lavender which is what they had on offer. Next time I will take something I do like the smell of. It was lovely to have the oil for massage though.
Shower sounds awesome, I am sure the novelty of it will wear off with the kids after a day or two.

Greedy, I had a look at your pics on facebook, hope you don?t mind, Marcy has the BEST hair, love love love those curls.
How is your sister getting on with her baby? Last I remember is that she was struggling with BF?

Chooster, oh dear, that sounds like a predicament I really would not enjoy! I think that you should talk to her mother, perhaps be gentle, and not tell the entire truth? I am not sure anyone would take it on the chin that their offspring is a total nightmare. Perhaps the mother is super strict and she just acts up when she is away from home?? Certainly not someone I would want around, for my own sanity, and for the behavioural development of Max. If the teacher has raised concerns then perhaps best not to encourage their friendship to continue? It?s tricky isn?t it. Try not to stress about it though ? hope you managed to keep them under control.

Rainbowdays, hope you are ok? If you are lurking, big hugs x

Iamamummy, how are you getting on with the BF?

Bodkin where are you?

Who have I missed ?

Boy, I have all this to look forward to don?t I? I hope you will all help me when the time comes ? Not sure if this is slow or what? but H found her feet today and stared at me like I was a loon while I cheered and clapped.
She is continuing to be very vocal - both happy and grumpy, loves her bath, but not so keen on getting dry and massaged and dressed afterwards (tips??) ? I have to employ distraction tactics, which include pulling her up to a sitting position, and then a standing position, which she loves

is jordan back in the jungle? havent been watching it, need to catch up!

chooster, chooster, chooster. your description of that little girl could have been written by me about kiki's best friend! i used to pick her up from school one day a week and she was (and still is) exactly the same as you described. she spat food out on the floor when she didnt like it, and gets EVERY toy out in kiki's bedroom and completely bosses kiki around. kiki's teacher spent 10mins at parents evening telling me to encourage other friendships, cos this little girl wasn't good for kiki! i havent really got any advice though! I dont pick her up anymore (not cos i refused, just cos the arrangement wasnt necessary anymore). One thing i did used to do was really really praise kiki for being polite, and packing toys away and eating her food etc. i used to go really over the top cos this little girl is really competitive and then wanted my praise too, so she started behaving a bit better. it's a nightmare though and you have my synpathies. kiki has naturally started playing with other children now, cos i kept pointing out this girls bad points to her (probably not the right thing to do!) and she had a lovely lovely friend round to play the other day, who tidied toys away after herself and always said please and thankyou. she was great!
anyway, hope you get it sorted! how did it go keeping them downstairs?

hello everyone else!

Yup jordan back in jungle. For 'closure'!! She says. Poor girl keeps being picked for challenges! Think peter Andre obviously has her number on speed redial!!!

Fettle- ha! I just don't get that "closure" thing - she's a bit screwed up- go see a shrink- don't go on TV and get smothered in cockroaches...

Ready- ahhhh, lovely picture of H pulling up to standing- all my babies loved doing that. I remember my MIL telling me they would get bow legs if i let them do that!

Chooster- everyone else is being much more diplomatic that me about your problem child! Maybe being a little tactful with the parent is a good idea. Or, keep giving her food that she won't eat- and absolutely NO treats- and not letting her have any fun at all and then maybe she will tell her mum that she doesnt want to go to your house anymore...

Ready- sorry forgot to say thank you for your massage info- interesting about lavender and low BP- I haven't heard of that before- will go google.

Honeyapple, please tell me none of your children have bow legs!! Because I was told that too, and it worried me slightly... although hasn't stopped me doing it
Once when I had an aromatherapy massage the aromatherapist asked which oils I didn't like - and I said that I found lavender too pungent, and she asked if I had a low BP, which I do, and she said that is why - apparently lavender is meant to help to lower BP, and so my body with an already low BP reacts negatively towards it so that I don't encourage it to go any lower. Made sense to me, although I don't know how scientific it really is. But then I guess aromatherapy isn't really meant to be scientific.

Waffle alert

ready- yup have googled lavender and it does say that about low BP- so good info from your aromatherapist . And NO! my kids do not have bow legs .

Bump - nearly onto page 3!!!

Hope you all well?

pah aromatherapy - sounds all airy-fairy like that reflexology nonsense!!

I have added this thread to my watch list, that way I never have to go searching for us. It'd take me all day

Yep, airy fairy - have to say I had a really bad experience (possible just bad coincidence but still) when I had reflexology before I fell pregnant. So I don't think I will ever do it again.

fettle- how is the reflexology going?

ready/fettle- where is everybody! Is this thread dying off?

Oh ready Im sorry u had a bad experience with reflexology. Noone I've treated has not liked it yet thank goodness. what happened after your reflexology? It can have pretty severe reactions afterwards as your body clears things out but generally that improves with sessions.

Also need to make sure u going to well trained practitioner. It is v easy to qualify as a reflexologist but personally I would make sure u go with a member of association of reflexology (MAR) after name. Ideally one trained by international institute of reflexology (IIR) after name. That the course i doing!

Hopefully they working towards more regulation for complementary medicine Inc reflexology to make it better and more controlled for everyone.

Going ok honey. But I'm feeling abut overwhelmed at moment with all I need to do with course and being single mother!

I really hope the thread is not dying off...

Well, I enjoyed the session, at one point I did feel like I was going to black out, which disconcerted me a little. It is a family friend that does it, and she has certs on her wall in her treatment room, but I have to confess I have never read the letters to see what they are! I know she went to college to study it
Basically I was having issues with blocked ears, kept popping etc and she 'worked' on that area for me - and the next day I went all dizzy and ears started hurting - put up with it for a few days thinking it would pass, and then it got worse to the point that the room would spin and I had to hold onto things!! Went to GP, turns out I had labyrnthitis (something to do with the inner ear and balance). I was off kilter for about 8 weeks, it was horrendous. Friend said that it is possible that when trying to clear my ears it could have triggered that.

Waffle. - but anyway, it was probably a total coincidence, but it really put me off because I NEVER want to experience that labyrnthitis again, that was so awful.

How is the course going though Fettle, do you have exams? or is it coursework and assessment based?

I am in awe of you Fettle, I have said it a lot, but I struggle on my own 2 nights a week!!

I have a question about H... 3 times in her life now she has really cried, like hysterically, other cries all have their meanings but this has been totally different. Not sure how to explain really, the first time it happened was about 12 weeks, and she woke up at about 8.30pm screaming, we thought it was a night terror, got her straight up, cuddle, breastfeed, back to bed - all fine. It didn't happen again for ages, so thought it was a one off bad dream thing... then last week she woke from a nap, I went in, she was grizzling, so I sat with her rubbing her tummy (she sometimes goes back off to sleep) then she opened her eyes and smiled and me. I smiled back and dh came in and smiled at her too - then suddenly she stopped smiling, her bottom lip went and she started howling 'wa wa wa wa wa wa wa wa' really short wa cries - I scooped her up and then she screamed and kept doing quick intakes of breath (I do this when I cry) and of course I started crying too saying 'mummy's here, what's wrong flower?' - and it took about 2 minutes to stop crying, then she just smiled straight away (although the breathing reflex took a little while to stop )... Then today, she was on her playgym happy as anything, and I walked over, bent down, and told her what I was going to do 'mummy's just going to pop the steriliser on, then change your nappy etc etc' she smiled and then again the bottom lip went and the same thing happened ... I scooped her up and cuddled her, and this time I didn't cry, and she stopped crying quicker, but I'd say she was crying for a good minute.
Anyway, if you are still with me is this something to worry about? Is she just a sensitive little soul? I can take grizzles and whimpers, I know they are not anything other than moaning and protests - but real tears and sobbing breaks my heart. Is it just because she is getting to the age where she has more feelings or is more aware of her feelings?

xx

Honeyapple, are you on football duty today or dance?

Ready- dance this morning .

I think babies do start getting a bit freaked out by stuff at this age- as you say because they are getting more aware- and the world is pretty scary! I remember the bottom lip thing . Don't worry- but try not to get upset yourself cos that would freak H out even more. Babies need their mummy's to show that there is nothing to fear. (unless obviously there is! Like a road/ cliff/ lion walking down the road...)

Does your dd love strictly come dancing? I hope it is still on tv when H is old enough
Yup, I instantly realised I shouldn't have cried but was in such shock at her wailing that I just blubbed, dh was cuddling both of us, he was freaked out too. Poor little sweetie probably thought I was telling her off this morning because I was telling her lots of things and quite possibly didn't sound as chirpy (I have a cold and sound gruff!) as normal.

Hi Ready - I would say that you probably already had labarythinitis as your ears were blocked and popping - I very much doubt that the reflexology would have caused it. Unfortunately problems with the inner ear do last for ages as there is really very little you can do to get the gunk out of there that upsets the balance - when I had vertigo in the summer (same thing, but no infection involved), I was told to take the tablets for 4 weeks and I still have odd wobbles from time to time now and that's nearly 3 months on! However, if she really "worked" your ears your body would have tried to get rid of the stuff and you may well have got worse before you got better - maybe if you'd gone back regularly it might have cleared up more quickly, but one can never really answer that - that's where my science mind would like a properly controlled clinical trial!!!

I hope you told her when you felt you were going to black out - although I've never heard of that either, but if you've got very low BP it may be related to that - can you remember what she was doing when you felt like that (just out of interest?).

My course is not done at a college as they only run reflexology so it is run independently - over the course of the course I need to completely over 100 individual 1 hour treatments on a variety of different people, submit 6 cases on people I've done a series of at least 6 treatments on (mini-thesis on them!!) and I need to get over 80% in them. I also have a 2 hour practical exam where I have to work on my tutors and work the correct part of the foot for the correct reflex and then I have a 3 hour written exam (both the practical and written exam I need to get over 80% too). So not an easy course, which is why I think it is pretty thorough and well taught!

Anyway, my guess on Hannah would be trapped wind - it hurts so badly if caught in the wrong place, but then when it moves even slightly the pain is relieved a bit. [don't worry about crying with her, I frequently do it when I panic a bit about what they are crying about if I can see no obvious cause! Although I know I shouldn't do it]

Right, my lasagne is nearly ready, better go and check on it!

By the way, have I told you that DD, me and my sister are going to see STrictly Come Dancing the Live Tour in February! DD and I went last year and it was great!

Hi ladies, maybe just a quiet spell on the thread?

Good to hear some more about Hannah, but not so nice to hear that hehas these crying moments. I reckon Honey is right that they are just becoming more aware that there are an individual in a big big world! I think they say that for the first few weeks a baby just thinks they are an extension of their mum and they can get a bit frightened when they realise its all a bit bigger than that... no idea if its true but this is about the time that babies become so much more responsive. Bless your DH - comforting you both.

Great news on those tickets Fettle! Bet you'll all love it - I'm more of an xfactor girl myself .

Thanks all for your help with my DS's problem friend. I actually had to pick Max up early on wednesday as he had a bit of diarrohea (sp) at school (poor lamb!). So as it was, my friend had to make other arrangements for her daughter. As max was perfectly well by late afternoon / early evening I sent him to school the next day only to get a call at lunchtime again to get him as he said he was poorly and was upset. Anyway, I pick him up, bring him home, he does a poo in the toilet and is perfectly fine - wanting food and playing etc... Turns out he needed to go to the toilet and was too scared to go in case what happened on Wednesday happened again and so he ended up with a tummy ache! Really hoping to nip this one in the bud as I'll have trouble explaining to work why I have to leave and pick Ds1 up from school every time he needs a poo! .

Apart from that all good here! DS2 had the tummy bug too but it was over in no time... DH and I fine so far... Went out to a friends last night for a swap shop party, where you take clothes / jewellry / shoes etc that you dont want anymore but that are still pretty nice. It was brilliant and I got some nice new (well new to me!) stuff for no money . Back late last night and up at 6.30 with DS2 so am knackered...Bed early I think

chooster- my kids hate pooing in school! DS1 always has a poo straight when he gets in from school. Love the idea of the swap shop night- must suggest to my friends .

Fettle, well, I didn't have an infection, so I assume it was vertigo then, although gp said labyrnthitis - no antibiotics. And it took 8 weeks to stop wobbling, but sadly I still have the odd moment now and again even after all this time - I didn't mean to say the reflexology caused it, of course it was already a problem, but her working on that area caused a reaction, and that was awful. You are right though, if I had gone a few more times it might have improved, I just got scared off. If I am honest I think that I was sceptical of the reflexology thinking it was probably just a bit of a fancy foot massage, but the fact that it affected me was scary. And if anything I really probably should have just had a pedicure and foot massage .
I did tell her that I almost blacked out, and she smiled and said 'I thought you might say that' like you say my BP probably has something to do with it - didn't ask what she was working on at the time. Freaked me out.

Aw bless Max not wanting to poo at school

Dh took me to last year's strictly tour for my birthday - it was brilliant!!!