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[rainbowdays]

Sorry I could not think of an original title

toast? off to have a look.....

hope you got cassius out of the oven in time before he got burnt!...........(that was how i read it, with my speed reading!)

£44 for a pair of slippers in the sale?!!!! too much money!!

Can people stop apologising for essays and long posts? I love them!

Went shopping for the day yesterday and bought two Coast dresses in the sale. £25 down from £75 ? ooh what a bargain

Seaside, I think a 3 year gap would be perfect. Well done C on swimming I have to confess to still not taking H. Am I a terrible mother? It?s just that I was advised to wait til after her 3rd lot of jabs, and then it was really cold and has been since? so waiting til the weather picks up. Can?t wait though
Sorry to hear about the eczema rash, what do you use on it? My friends little girl responds well to burt?s bees. What do you use?
I wouldn?t say that middle of the night is a problem for ttc, for me I would say you need to enjoy yourself. Try to relax a bit for a while before you start down the worrying about how often route. Sorry if I sound bossy.

Fettle, Seaside raises a good point about the capital gains tax, we are currently investigating the rules around that ourselves, and apparently you it is 18% and you can claim back on any improvements that you have undertaken for the sale of the property when the time comes. I guess with a fairly new property you won?t benefit from that. If you have plenty of problems with it, I wonder if it would come back to bite you with constant issues when tenants are in? So much to think about, and it would be so much easier with a crystal ball. We sold right at the peak of the market, not that we knew it was the peak, just lucky, reason being we had a lot of money tied into the house, and wanted to have that out in case our income hit the skids. Thankfully it didn?t so we have a nice pot in the bank ready for next time,

Greedy ? back question? are there any exercises I can do to strengthen my back? It is shot to bits from the epidural and carrying around 16lb of lunging nosy baby, and it is constantly aching at the moment. Help.
Have you had any feedback from your complaint?

Rainbowdays ? how are you feeling?

Iam ? well done Oscar on the words Clever boy.

6bedrooms Minxi! How are you feeling at the moment? I think it is incredibly exciting, but I am can well imagine how topsy turvy you must be feeling. I have my heart set on 2 and no more, so it would be a shock to suddenly be pregnant unplanned. Hugs. H is getting better with the napping, but every day is different, and I am just having to learn to relax

Honeyapple, 11! Did you have a party?

Hope everyone is good.

Argh!!!! Too much to say and not enough time. In way out to do some hand reflexology. Got my mock exam in the post this morning. Couldn't face it today so will do it tomorrow!

Getting even more questions bout the house. Dies the capital gain tax still apply as it is our only house? And we are being forced to rent it out due to dh job? I just feel money in a high interest long term account mat be less hassle than renting it and then selling later. Can also have viewings while it furnished. Not unfurnihed or with tenants. Will spk to dh next wk when he home. Missing him more than ever the mo!

For ease I would sell, but for financial gain I would let. I guess it depends on how well off you are
I am not certain about capital gains tax, I think that if you are not living in it then you are liable for the tax but not certain... Capital Gains Tax Basics

Hello!!! I know, I like long messages too.... .

Greedy - I was going to look at the TOAST site as well, but then saw your post Greeds and I now dont think I'll bother . I'm bound to find things I love and I'll not be able to afford them .

Minxi - Really pleased that the chat with DH went well. I can imagine you are both a bit shocked but at least he's supportive - also great that you've talked to your best pal - so she's got 4 boys! If you have another thats a hell of a lot of boys on any trips you guys do . Your place sounds lovely and you'll easily find the space...

Rainbowdays - Wow, your Due dates are all so close! Its nice having a new bundle of babies coming along . Just saw pics of my friends baby who was born on Tuesday -Oooh, he's cute!

Greeds - This whole 3rd baby thing is a bit tricky for me really... Its just been such a range of emotions. A while ago I spent quite a lot of time toying with the idea of another but kind of just imagining (through rose tinted glasses I'm sure) what 3 would be like, then of course I was pregnant and just paniced about it really. Suddenly my fantasy had bcome a reality . Then just as I was getting my head round it, I miscarried and felt guilt... then relief... then regret.... Arrrrrghhhhhhh - So now I dont know what I want. I dont want to regret not having a 3rd child but at the same time I need to get on with it if we are doing it as I'm now 37 and would ideally not want a huge age gap... Oh, I just dont know.... .

Iamamummy - As you can see from the above my thoughts of a 3rd haven't gone away . As the others have said maybe just give yourelf a bit more time to adjust to having the 2 of them. It may also be a good idea to have more time to get used to the idea of another boy. Once you are happy with that idea and if you still want another then go for it!. Like you I would quite like the experience of a daughter in the house, but its not so much a preference. There would be as many plus points in having another boy too, it would just be nice to have a 3rd as a different gender. My friend is the same after 2 girls. She would like to have a son but wouldn't be disappoineted at all with another girl... Good luck with whatever you decide!!! But good idea to avoid the injection contraception...

Seaside - in reality it wont matter one bit about the timing (nothing wrong with a bit of 3am action if you've got the energy for it!! ) but it may affect your stress levels which at the very least will not be helping you relax and try to enjoy these early ttc days. Its still so early on in your attempts to try that maybe you need to thnk that the odd missed month due to work wont matter - at least then there is not so much pressure on your DP if he's busy and stressed himself. Wiht my last pregnany I worked out there was about 7 days between sex and conception so you never know! And I definately dont remember when my boys were conceived (except the last one due the frequency or shoul I say lack of it ) - as long as you try to enjoy ttc as much as you can I dont think it matters when or how you conceive - GOOD LUCK!!!!
Oh yes, and on the subject of excema - DS has it inside his elbows and knees and its usually very mild but has flared up recently - especially after swimming. At the moment there is a bit on his neck / tummy and back... We use Aveeno bath oil and lotion as recommended by the GP. And then I use hydrocortisone in the bad bits... Hope your little swimmer gets better soon!!! Well done Cassius for being so fish-like!! .

Ready - what a terrible mum for not taking her swimming . I dont blame you at all for not launching in with it this winter - Brrrrrr - far too cold!

Hello!!! I know, I like long messages too.... .

Greedy - I was going to look at the TOAST site as well, but then saw your post Greeds and I now dont think I'll bother . I'm bound to find things I love and I'll not be able to afford them .

Minxi - Really pleased that the chat with DH went well. I can imagine you are both a bit shocked but at least he's supportive - also great that you've talked to your best pal - so she's got 4 boys! If you have another thats a hell of a lot of boys on any trips you guys do . Your place sounds lovely and you'll easily find the space...

Rainbowdays - Wow, your Due dates are all so close! Its nice having a new bundle of babies coming along . Just saw pics of my friends baby who was born on Tuesday -Oooh, he's cute!

Greeds - This whole 3rd baby thing is a bit tricky for me really... Its just been such a range of emotions. A while ago I spent quite a lot of time toying with the idea of another but kind of just imagining (through rose tinted glasses I'm sure) what 3 would be like, then of course I was pregnant and just paniced about it really. Suddenly my fantasy had bcome a reality . Then just as I was getting my head round it, I miscarried and felt guilt... then relief... then regret.... Arrrrrghhhhhhh - So now I dont know what I want. I dont want to regret not having a 3rd child but at the same time I need to get on with it if we are doing it as I'm now 37 and would ideally not want a huge age gap... Oh, I just dont know.... .

Iamamummy - As you can see from the above my thoughts of a 3rd haven't gone away . As the others have said maybe just give yourelf a bit more time to adjust to having the 2 of them. It may also be a good idea to have more time to get used to the idea of another boy. Once you are happy with that idea and if you still want another then go for it!. Like you I would quite like the experience of a daughter in the house, but its not so much a preference. There would be as many plus points in having another boy too, it would just be nice to have a 3rd as a different gender. My friend is the same after 2 girls. She would like to have a son but wouldn't be disappoineted at all with another girl... Good luck with whatever you decide!!! But good idea to avoid the injection contraception...

Seaside - in reality it wont matter one bit about the timing (nothing wrong with a bit of 3am action if you've got the energy for it!! ) but it may affect your stress levels which at the very least will not be helping you relax and try to enjoy these early ttc days. Its still so early on in your attempts to try that maybe you need to thnk that the odd missed month due to work wont matter - at least then there is not so much pressure on your DP if he's busy and stressed himself. Wiht my last pregnany I worked out there was about 7 days between sex and conception so you never know! And I definately dont remember when my boys were conceived (except the last one due the frequency or shoul I say lack of it ) - as long as you try to enjoy ttc as much as you can I dont think it matters when or how you conceive - GOOD LUCK!!!!
Oh yes, and on the subject of excema - DS has it inside his elbows and knees and its usually very mild but has flared up recently - especially after swimming. At the moment there is a bit on his neck / tummy and back... We use Aveeno bath oil and lotion as recommended by the GP. And then I use hydrocortisone in the bad bits... Hope your little swimmer gets better soon!!! Well done Cassius for being so fish-like!! .

Ready - what a terrible mum for not taking her swimming . I dont blame you at all for not launching in with it this winter - Brrrrrr - far too cold!

• Forgot to say hello Fettle!!! Hope you're doing OK - How many days til DH gets back???

4! Unless he's delayed for some reason!

V late. Ni energy for long msg!

Xxx

3!!!!

Xxxx

chooster - its tough when you are undecided on whether to have more kids or not isn't it? i would love a definate 'never again, i'm done ' feeling, but i dont think i will ever have that at the moment, although strangely i feel as if i would have it if i ever had a fourth! i guess that is why i would be happy to have an accident and then the decsiion is made!

bought marcy her big girl bed yesterday, but we are out tonight, so not putting her in till tomorrow night! i KNOW she is going to be a pickle and keep getting up cos she is SO cheeky, but she keeps climbing out of her cot so i have no choice!

anyone potty trained yet? both ellis and kiki were dry by marcys age, but i think we might leave marcy till she is about 4 cos she isn't showing any signs of being interested!

fettle - wow!!! 3 days!!! how long is he back for?

hope all you pg ladies are feeling ok? does everything seem to be going ok with you rainbowdays? do you have an early scan booked?

my next patient is 9 mins late, aaaarrrrrrgggghhhhhhhh!!! hope she isn't a no show! i need the money to spend on clothes!!

greedy- DD was much more advanced with potty usage than Dex- she was sorted by her 2nd bday. If I can see that Dex is about to do a poo (ie he starts squatting) then I say- 'do you need a poo?' and he just shouts 'NO!!!!!' very empathically and then proceeds to do one... Planning on leaving it to the summer when he can run around with a nude bot and pee in the garden. He fell out of his bed last night- despite it having a little guard bit. I totally agree about not having that 'finished' feeling when it comes to more children.

fettle- 2 days!!

talking of the summer- anyone booked any hols yet?

Technically 2.5 days and 3 sleeps to go!! But he'll probably be delayed!!

No plans on toddler bed for toby til after we move as he s happy and sleeps well in his cot still. Dd was out of her cot much earlier than now. She also potty trained herself just as she turned two. Toby is showing no signs at all. Like Dexter he denys pooing nearly always. I've set myself a deadline of his 16th birthday to be out of nappies. Anything earlier will be a bonus!!

no holidays booked yet as don't know when dh can take leave yet in summer but we def having proper holiday this year. Part o reason we moving at Easter so we can have holiday in summer rather than use his leave to move.

All our snow has gone - I'm so happy!!!

Off to take children swimming. So don't want to bit I've put dd off for weeks now so I have to. Brrrr!!

Right. Hope your patient arrived greedy. How's your course going honey?

Big waves everyone else

xxx

ps pretty sure I've got that I don't want more feeling. But not enough for dh to have the snip which he wants. Bought condoms yesterday for second time in my life!. I'm a married woman with children I'm allowed to have sex but I was still embarassed!! Just Dont want an accident next week - many an r&r baby are made!! Greedy, he's back for just under two
weeks.

Lottie - you are doing fantastically..... you are at a very tough stage with breastfeeding but it does get easier. Even with twins according to my friends who have breastfed twins (not that I know that many!). The cluster feedings do happen in spirts at around the 6 and 12 week stages for many people. But often the cluster feedings only last a few days, so hopefully you will have some easier time of it in the next couple of days. I am glad that you had your mother helping for a while, and hope you get extra help soon. Just one possibility with the not being able to get them to sleep soon after the bottle, the formula is harder to digest, and it might be that they are finding that harder to get to sleep with? Just a thought, if so then maybe giving the bottle during the afternoon, and you doing the night shift but then you getting to sleep during the afternoon a bit??? Not sure if it would help you. Although it is best not to disrupt the evening cluster-feeding as this is a good time for your supply to keep stimulated. Actually, I am proprably not being much help here!!!!! Perhaps I should just stop waffling!

Fettle - so soon to your dh being back, I am getting excited aabout it and it is not my dh

greedy - ok, time to stop hoping for a happy accident and stop the contracption, and allow yourself to get a number 4! No point in putting it off any longer.

My update: I had a wonderful night in
hospital last night, as they suspected an ectopic.... they eventually found the prengnacy sac in the right place this morning. It is measuring 5 weeks, and I have to go back for another scan in just over another week.

lottie - wow - you are doing soooo well - 100 times better than me and I was only trying to BF one! I am sorry you had a rough patch with DH but I really empathise, I am sure lots of blokes go through a kind of post-paternal depression. I vividly remember having some flaming rows with my DH around 4-6 weeks after birth. The romantic baby bubble had burst and I was basically irrational. To his credit he took it well! Glad your Mum has stepped up to the plate and you have some help. It is vital for your mental well-being to be able to just get out on your own even if only for half an hour - at least it was for me!

greedy - what a nightmare with all the delays in lapland but glad you enjoyed what time you did have - I bet those warm clothes came in handy after you got back!

rainbow - wow - you don't do things easily do you So sorry about the scare but good news that you got a scan and all is where it should be and that you get another one next week for reassurance. Hang in there.

minxi - hope all is well and you are getting your head around number 4

fettle - only 2 sleeps left! How excited are you and your DC's!

honey - we have booked a summer hol ( we are holiday sluts!) off to Il De Re in June - anyone been there?

Ready - I know what you mean about the swimming and I used to loathe it especially in winter in indoor pools but honestly it is the best thing I have done with Cassius, I just love watching him enjoying it!

Chooster - I am off to hunt for aveeno bath oil tomorrow

Iam- hope Oscar's cold cleared up, I am so fed up of illness!

All OK with me although have been mega stressed these past few days (work/money/general household crap and C had a scary rash all over his chest and tummy for 3 days???) I have even had an IBS flare up I am really trying not to think about being in the 2ww, even though last month I made DH commit that we would not have a 2ww and would keep at it iyswim. But I have just felt so rough I am not up to it and next month 3 best ov days will fall over the time we are travelling so night flight and then a night with my parents - just not going to happen then as I have no intention of attempting to join the mile high club or shag in my parents guest bed- ewwww! maybe this is why I am not pg yet - too picky!

Off to try and do some packing and tidying - the house looks like a tornado has blown through it!

lottie- you are doing sooooo well- well done! BIG LOT OF PRAISE. It must be so draining for you- but it will get easier I a sure- and just think how much your girls are appreciating it .

seaside- big hug to you too- it only takes one BD session- and maybe in a odd place/time too ...

greedy- I need your ebay help! I have listed a pushchair that i bought and only used for one holiday last year... anyway I have 6 watchers and a woman just asked me if i would sell it for £40 (I have a buy it now at £60)... I replied and said I was looking for a bit more... but maybe I should have said yes! Help! (Ebay seller virgin)

Honey - personally I would say no! If you sell out of ebay you are not covered in anyway, so I'd let the auction run its course! I had plenty of offers for my quinny carrycot when I was selling it - some I was tempted by, but I sold it for way more in the end through the auction!

Lottie - I'm in awe of you - you sound as if you are coping amazingly well!! Fabulous! Agree that DH's do find it a bit hard adjusting to parenthood - I hope his back is better now?

Seaside - Holidays are good!!! Cassius sounds a fabulous swimmer! I took the DC at the weekend, and was amazed how much Toby enjoyed it - he keeps asking to go again, so I'll have to find the opportunity - it's been about 3 months since we last went, so I thought he'd have lost his confidence, but not at all!

Right well - I'm extremely grumpy today as DH has been delayed by at least 24 hours! I know it doesn't seem much, but when you've been waiting for 4.5 months, it seems like an eternity to add another 24 hours on!!! So I'm off to wallow in self-pity and watch Hustle!

xxx

(sad) fettle - I was just about to post how excited I was for you. 24 hours IS a big deal imo. Hope it
flies by and there are no more delays

Lottie- i like the idea of plate spinning- I think that is often how much of my life with kids is! Personally when I stopped looking for a routine, and just went with the flow, I found everything much easier- no expectations to fall short of .

rainbow- forgot to say- so glad the scan was good- big crossed fingers as always.

A good friend from school has just told me she is PG- so happy for her- and now I have someone to test out my antenatal stuff on!

as for the ebay thing- I now have 9 watchers (no bids)and that woman didnt get back to me. I would like £50- pushchair is a jane sonic and only used for one holiday. I paid £80 i think in kiddicare sale but they RRP at over £100... I didnt really like it much though TBH and Dex wont sit in one now anyway.

lottie - you do sound like you are doing really well, but you always came across as the sort of person who would cope with twins really well. It sounds like such hard work, but i am still really jealous!!!

honey - how long does your pushchair have left? 9 watchers is great, once they all start bidding against each other i am sure you will get your £50. i a trying to sell 'bundles' of clothes at the moment but they aren't going too well!

rainbowdays - what happened then? why did you have to go into hospital? did you have pain or bleeding? is 5 weeks in line with what you thought? are you feeling positive?

fettle - you must be getting very excited!!! no more delays i hope.

feel like a horrible mummy today! ellis was winding me up all the way to school by doing stupid things with his coat and his gloves - not being naughty, just really annoying, so i lost my temper with him completely irrationally!! and then kiki had a wobble going into class and started saying she didnt want to go in cos there were too many people in there and it was too crowded, so i really lost it with her cos she was being so silly! all the way home i felt terrible and almost phoned the school to ask if i could speak to kiki and apologise!!!! (can you imagine how weird they would think i was if i had done that!!) i am also wondering what the other mums must think of me, we have lots of new mums whos children have just joined the class who dont know me and i think i was really mean to kiki and i dont want people feeling sorry for my kids cos they have got such a wicked mother.

anywat, i feel better for getting that off my chest! better go to work now i suppose!

hello everyone else

and bye bye!!

Rainbow. Feel awful. So wrapped up in my own world that I didn't ask after you. Greedy pretty much said what I was coming on to say - was 5 weeks whatnu expected? Hope all is ok.

And greedy. You just made me feel mug better and normal. I'm frequently shouting at dd just for bong irritating or crying for no real goo reason and I hate it. But she does both so often at mo!! I'm sure both kiki and ellis will have forgotten by time u pick them up!

Better tidy house while toby has an unheard of daytime nap and just in case dh does make it home tomorrow!

fettle - i wont let them forget though! i think i am a bit weird like that!! i will have to talk to them about it and over analyse my behaviour and their behaviour and will probably end up making far too big a deal out of it and making it all a million times worse!!! even though i know i shouldn't!!