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ermintrude just finished listening to R4. Made me cry So many things made me nod. Excellent programme though

morning all

Another day off hurrah!

Just deciding what to with with what's left of it.

tee D was exactly the same re baths at first so I didn't do it more than every two or three days. Babies that size don't get dirty!

yeah, where did Mum41 go and peachyfox??

oh Iris that tummy strain is really painful! Sorry you're suffering. Not long now for us though eh. At least 2 people have already popped on the July thread.

jw shame about no romance with the Manc and the Yank - but long distance love is a pain in the bum - even within the UK so maybe it's for the best. At least DD may have seen that there are decent men out there and see soemthing better to set her sights on?
Have fun in Daresbury - it's a really pretty village. You could whizz them to Cheshire Oaks too so yank can get some cheap presents to take home if he feels like it.

As far as M and the bad sleeping went - I think she just went past sleepy and then into over-tired so couldn't settle - and that not helped by being somewhere new. Ususally she is a brilliant sleeper and surroundings don't phase her. We've probably had it too easy so far so don't know how to cope on a bad day. (God I hope this new one takes after its sister!)

Tee I read (last week) about some babies not liking being exposed. It said to put a folded sheet or muslin square over them when you have their clothes off to reduce the "open" feeling. Also - you were asking about light in the night. I'm asking for one of those touch dimmer lamps for my birthday (week baby is due). But last time I used the bedside lamp which has a low energy bulb in it so is quite cool ... and put a darkish muslin square over the lamp - it dimmed the light enough not to glare but enough to see by (and as Ermintrude said - get the right end of the baby sorted) - make sure your bulb is a low energy one though!.

ermintrude ... what are you doing at home? Filling the birthing pool .... ????

my DS1 used to howl when i change his nappy! and then when he got bigger, i would literally need to pin him down to change his nappy. made for a lot effort esp when the nappy is a pooey one! luckily DS2 does not do that. he smiles when i am changing him! in fact this morning, he did a golden shower but i managed to catch it and he was grinning from ear to ear

jw it is true that us parents will always worry about our kids, even when they are grown ups! or rather, esp when they are grown ups!

ladies, my DS2 is now 5.5 months. how do i know when he is ready for weaning? he has started dribbling and constantly chews on his thumb. but shows no interest when he sees other people eating. or me eating.

Hello everyone - had a FAB morning

Went to new playgroup at a pre-school down the road - it was amazing. I've put Iris's name down and we spent ages talking with a special ed needs teacher there ...Oh the top tips she gave me were amazing - she totally keyed into Iris and watched her play. She will be her one-to-one person and looks like we have a place in Jan. They've got an outstanding Ofsted too! She also said she'll work with us to get into school of choice if we need a statement as the school we are supposed to go to offers virtually no provisions for any SN - should we need them. Met loads of really nice mums too. HAPPY FACE

tee how brilliant that your mum has suddenly come into her own! Good timing Iris loved baths - Verity loathed them - I mean loathed. Very lazy me - only dunken her 3 times a week

jw well, at least your DD isn't trying to force a relationship. Now she knows how good it feels to be single maybe she will also find 'bad boys' less attractive. My theory is that once you start attracting a different kind of bloke (regardless if it works out) then you will continue to do so - so in some ways, even by meeting up with this guy she has started to move away from her trend.

erm you're going to take this to the wire aren't you?! Yep, this is where you find out you should have been on the July thread

iris hope you're having a restful day.

RIght - off to get some stuff from the shops while DP looks after the girls.

that sounds like teething heron D showed no interest in food either at 6 months and if I'd left it until he did I suspect he still wouldn't now at 9 months!

When D was 26 weeks I gave him puréed fruit mixed with baby rice (I have never yet herd of a baby who would take plain baby rice - its so bland even a baby won't eat it) or a mashed banana. or if you are going down the blw route you could wait till he starts grabbing food - although D still doesn't do this unless he spies a ginger nut biccie

heron- we waited until they were swiping stuff off our plates to begin weaning. By our standards he wouldn't be ready yet!

mrsb hi how are you? ok i will wait a bit longer then. i agree about the baby rice. so bland. i will mix with pureed fruit. sounds more delicious.

how old is your LO now?

Sounds very promising JJ the new nursery. Excellent news for once!

heron I'd just try your LO with some puree. K liked the fruity ones to begin with. He'll let you know what he likes and what he doesn't. Like mrsb said, the baby rice is horrible and I don't know any babies that like it.

bonzo that overtired stage is awful. It's so difficult to settle them when they're in it. Any tips for doing so most welcome

Where is hedgepig? Was it last weekend she was cycling??

mrsb hope you are having a lovely slob around on your day off. Get thee to the nice shoppes. NOW!

duchesse K only likes the stuff she can swipe. She doesn't like being fed by us

Mrsb- we didn't force the issue with child 3 and she ended up starting on solids at 8.5 months, beginning a life-long love affair with Food. The child can eat like a horse. Only with more animal protein than your average horse ingests. Boy can she eat.

ok sounds like i need to wait longer. is there any benefit in weaning before they start showing interest in food?

I'm just saying hello and I'm still here, just a V.Busy weekend. Off to read back, see you in a while

Baby rice gave my son such awful constipation that I never bought any more after the first box. Ghastly stuff. Leaving it later of course means you don't need to go through the complete puree stage at all. We just fed them essentially what we were eating, with minor adjustments to ingredients/ seasoning.

hair flys in wind as hedgepig rushes past!! heron ditto the others who say their LOs weren't interested in food until past 6 months. Verity really didn't take solids till 8-9 months. I fretted for a few weeks and then though...pah - one less mouth the make dinner for She suddenly clicked and then we were away. Mind you she hates being fed. She's just learned to use a spoon - but it's messy!

mrsB yes, do enjoy you're time off with D

What a lot of posts, see what happens when I go off for 40 winks and then recline on the sofa to watch a bit of tennis?

JJ Playgroup sounds fab - what, no bitchy mothers of lobotomised toddlers sitting still whilst listening to Dickens? .

There are only about 4 regulars on the June thread who haven't popped. Hmm, I wonder if late June due dates put themselves on July for that reason? That would be sneaky! Since my official date ws 17th I never thought I'd be left till one of the last but they're kindly holding off antenatal until we've all produced. If it's just me I think I'll suggest they do it anyway and I'll post the news on there. If it ever happens .

JW I see what you mean about DD's previous choices. But as JJ says, just to meet someone so very different from her 'usuals' will get her thinking. Sounds like she hasn't had v high expectations of previous bfs but perhaps she'll start looking for someone who will be her equal - and will cherish her.

Right, better go back to the tennis. There are advantages to this late pregnancy lark.

ermintrude at this rate, you'll be on the August antenatal thread!

Still, at least you're not the last one. Yet.

ermin am watching tennis too! love it.

hmmm, great so no need to get started too soon! one less thing to do!

heron the longer you leave your little one before weaning the more mature their gut is and their chewing reflexes etc so it should get easier the later you leave it. I think the health visitors start getting stressy about iron levels for the baby sayign htey don't get enough from breast milk after 6 months - but you could ask about that. And anyway - whats a couple of weeks either way.

bonzo i agree with you. with DS1 i weaned before he was ready and it was a mess cos he just was not interested in any of the food!

will check out the iron level issue.

ladies, dont know what to make for dinner!

hi all

Yes we had a nice day - a lovely weekend in fact. OH had the day off too so went out to buy boring householdy things like a new kitchen bin and wine glasses and a cafetiere - I broke my last one by dropping something on it. The we took the little man to the park for a go on the swings.

I wouldn't have started the weaning either until later but for the secretly nursed hope that it might make him sleep through the night for me going back to work. He is better feeding himself because he will chew and swallow anything but if you feed him purée he gags on lumps. He has already got to the stage that he decides whether or not he is going to like the taste of something by looking at it if you approach him with a piece of cheese he will shudder and purse his lips even though he has never tasted it

jw I was incapable of attracting anything but bad boys until my mid thirties - I bet your daughter grows out of it sooner!

jj I am very pleased to hear your good news re the playgroup - about time after the other crappy one you had to put up with. I hope Iris is allowed to enjoy this one.

wonder how tee is getting on today??

Anyone see the awful case here in York of the couple with the three toddlers living in filth and squalor? Horrendous it was - they have been jailed today. It happened in the Council Estate near where we live . Apparently the neighbours reported them becasue they were worried about the state of the house. Wonder why they had no visits form Health Visitors? I suppose you don't have to answer the door.

ermintrude I won't say it...

not sure what is going on with LO, he has always feed and slept well at around 6pm. it started yesterday, after his feed, he was all dozy and i put him down. a bit later, he starts shrieking and crying. i go to him and he is in a state. i calm him down. as soon as i put him down he starts again.
it is doing my head in!

suggestions please?

heron it could be a number of things. He might have wind, he might have worked out that it's nice having his mum pick him up and he can get her to do it be crying ...or any number of other things! I'd try a process of elimination

mrsb missed the story of the people in your vicinity. No doubt it'll be on DM website soon...when they can get all this pics of the trollop Jordan aka Katie Price/Andre out of the way. The family sound horrendous. Why was SS not involved sooner? Btw, HV have no right to enter a property. They're like vampires and can only be invited over the threshold.

Hope you're right re the bad lads. She's a nice girl and deserves better. The last one really was the pits and I told him to his face I thought as much. Me and her brothers have told her that we're all interviewing the next one and if he's no good..................

I've not worked out what K does and doesn't like. It changes by the day. She had a slice of pear today and enjoyed it. And a cheese biscuit. The bread sticks she enjoyed y'day went on the floor for the dog` today.

I'm thinking of having a good chat with my GP on Friday re my dieting. Seems I've hit a brick wall and stayed where I am for weeks. Might see if I can change the pills for something else. Maybe he'll tell me to persevere, not sure.

Who would have thought that in real life, Kevin Webster is really 5' 4". He's also the cousin of my ex best friend who is now married to my ex DH. Her name is also lavelle. Small world eh? ToO bloody small.

jw DH said to me on the weekend that LO has started complaining when he is put down. so yea prob to be cuddled to zzz land. but i always put him down semi-sleepy. i refuse to become his sleep aide! argggh. kids.

Evening all.

I've been around here and there reading, but usually with babe in arms so I can't type!

I'm also at that state of exhaustion where I can't think. And keep bursting into tears. Ah, motherhood.

Anyway, hope all is well with everyone. Adam is fine. DH has the night shift tonight, so he got to nap while I was taking care of Adam this afternoon. So I am off to bed very very soon.