40 + mums with baby tums & those who've already 'popped' with muffin tops - come say Hi!

[jeanjeannie]

Yet ANOTHER thread. Like it says - those of you who've waved bye bye to 39 come and say Hi to us instead.

We think that 40 is the new 20, cyber cake is the new weight-watchers and older mums rock

So, if you fit that description come and play with us. We like cake, gossip an occasional luke warm debate and a good moan! Oh and we're also very friendly and supportive!

OK everyone.....take it away x

Christ ermintrude I've just choked on my toffee crisp!!! "Lamb handbag"??? I can hardly breath!

What's the difference between clever and intelligent? Does clever mean obviously intelligent? Cos we're supposed to play down our intelligence aren't we, in case men feel threatened by it, or so the story goes. It must be a case of looking for the right sort of man because all my bfs have loved me beating them at Scrabble

I think some men are put off by women who are clearly very clever AND clearly not massively interested in doing themselves up to attract men - Ms Trimble reminds me of several extremely bright friends who come over as a bit 'square' and earnest - all long unstyled hair and specs and soft separates - and expect to be accepted on their own terms rather than get dolled up for the telly or whatever. Hopefully her bf will be the sort of chap who's happy to apreciate her cleverness.

I really hoped Manchester would win though - but only out of northerliness.

JJ and mrsb. Not married! But you have children! . I don't understand...

Hey Bonzo what about 'vertical bacon sandwich?'

I think intelligence is something we all have and can improve on throughout our lives where as most cleverness is more attributed to educational abilities, like she says herself, its just an abilty to recount facts.
I strongly believe the things encountered throughout life are what determine a persons intelligence we live and learn

Oh btw with my girls its always been a 'tilly' or 'tillyann' to give it its full name

ermintrude don't you know that bonzo is veggie? Not sure what the veggie version of meat curtains are

I always thought that intelligent leant itself more to the academic side (?)

I think K's consultant is very clever. She wears a lot of Laura Ashley pastels and has mad hair like this. I had given her the rather original (in my mind) nickname of Crystal Tips but I was told later on by one of the staff, that's what everyone called her (and I bet half of them didn't actually know the original as they were under 30).

Crikey, I think this is probably the only thread on MN where that link would actually be greeted with a clap, and 'ahhh' and a reminisce.

Oh just thought of what bonzo could call hers.....what about a quorn muffin?

My daughter is a Tilly! It's bad enough that it rhymes with willy, let alone that people are using it for fanny! Nobody's called Fanny these days, it's a pretty safe bet for that.

I can think of a few people who don't have a modicum of intelligence, but I suppose most of us do develop our intelligence as we go along. You want clever people on your pub quiz team, for sure. I like the way J Paxman calls UI 'just a bit of fun', as though it really is your typical quiz. DH and I did pretty well last night actually but there were still some questions where we just stared blankly and could hardly believe that someone had buzzed .

Has anyone seen the film of 'Starter for Ten' with James McEvoy? There's an awful, painfully funny UI scene in it.

lol @ quorn muffin JW.

Crystal Tip's skirt is extremely short - I used to wear them like that. Not a look that'll be coming back for me any time soon, I fear...

I was brought up calling them 'fanny' and 'willy' and started using these with dd1 and ds when they were little. However dd1 went to a friend's house where the little girl's fanny was referred to as her 'minnie moo'. Dd1 fell in love with this name and it kind of stuck in our house. They all say it now. I know it's a bit twee but they do know the real terms too. I guess it's the same as most of us, we probably refer to our genitalia by different names to suit the occasion. I would call it one name to friends, another to the doctor and a completely different one when DH and I are in bed

Ds realised when he was about 3 that he had balls as well as a willy so I told him what all the various bits were called. A week later he told me that his 'testawilliacles' were hurting I rather liked that as a name for the whole package!

Catching up now ... 3 pages in an evening ... eek ...

Ha at Crystal Tips! At college there was a woman who had hair like that so one bloke called her Crystal Tips. She stomped off in a strop saying it was out of order.....
Much later it turned out she thought he was referring to her enormous boobs large chest....

Lala sounds like you're smuggling a tellytubby to me. And FooFoo is a bit froofroo ... ... looks like it will stay as fanny - like you say Ermintrude - the other euphemistic words could mean anything. Willie is just that and fanny is too. I was worried about the shock value but then thought why the hell should it be shocking.... mind you ... at a bacon sandwich tho!

ermintrude so sorry, its quite a common nickname for that around here

Mmmm, James McEvoy.

I love tesatwillacles! . DS's friend referred to an octopus and its 8 testicles the other day and couldn't understand why we fell about .

When I asked DH what he'd called them as a child he confessed that nobody ever talked about them in their house. They never even referred to farting. Talk about repressed, explains a lot.

Which reminds me of my parents' first meeting with his parents, when we'd decided to get married. It was lunch at our house in London and my mum, who likes a dirty joke, had been told to be on her best behaviour. So the first thing she tells them is about work the previous day, when the nurses played a trick on her about a supposedly missing patient (she ran a chemotherapy clinic) and had her in the waiting room shouting out 'Aaron Mycock. Has anyone seen Aaron Mycock?'

DH's parents just looked blank while I kicked my ma under the table. She thought that was very mild indeed and couldn't see why they weren't laughing.

MUM41 I shan't hold you personally responsible for 'tilly'. Sob . Mind you, where do you live? I'd better warn DD!

ladymac lol at testawillacles
the other day when we were bathing the boys DS3 whos 5 said the boys had little love hearts, what she meant was the way their little balls were floating in the water and they did resemble a love heart

sorry miss key DD3 oh dear best go lay down in a dark room for a while

a very very down to earth chap by all accounts is Mr MacEvoy, totally unluvvie and normal - drives same beat up old car and lives in an ordinary gaff - more interested in his artistic integrity than the trappings of fame. How cool is he?

Have been thinking about this and when I was growing up I know that a willy was a willy but no recollection of a ladies bits ever being referred to by any name at home. Catholic Ireland in the seventies eh? clearly fannies didn't exist back then...

mrsb I've heard an old Irish lady refer to her 'mary', which I've also heard amongst old Yorkshire women too (my mum had a patient who'd had a radical hysterectomy and told my mum she had 'no womb and no mary neither' any more!). A bit odd, using the name of the Blessed Virgin to refer to your growler..

Lol@quorn muffin and testawillicles I quite liked a description I once read on Popbitch...one of the 'intelligent' sites I used to contribute to A girl once described her newly coiffured bits as "I've now got a mimsy as sleek as a mink's ear and silky to boot" which sounded most pleasing.

I think of intelligent as in academic too...like DP who can grasp the finer details of partical physics whereas I'm pretty darn good at pub quizes! The strange rubbish I know is weird.

Oh dear, am I outnumbered, maybe it's nothing to do with education, cleverness or intelligence just give me someone with a bit of common sense over them all

Talking of common sense, what is all the fuss about the ceebeebies presenter??? my DD3 commented, we had a conversation about not everybody being the same and that being different is as normal as you or I and that was it, isn't all this talk about children having nightmares a little exagerated?

Oh my, I am in an opinionated mood today

Ooh, what's up with the CBeebies presenter? I've been on CBBC for so long now, and I do need to get back into the swing. I only remember Welsh Chris hubba hubba

Yes mrsb, he lives not too far from me and not that I am stalking him or anything but I know his very car and also his flat which is just round the corner from where my dd1 is renting and not a very smart neighbourhood at all.

Mind you we're surrounded by 'luvvies' in our neck of the woods. I've almost collided bugaboos with John Simm many a time in Sainsburys. I'm rather partial to him too. As I am to Clive Owen, who I once sat next to having our children's feet measured. Unfortunately I don't mean the children we have together. On the down side we have more Eastenders than you can shake a stick at. Saw Mark coming out of the doctors the other day as I was going in and he looked extremely rough. When I told DH he said it must be because of the AIDS

ermintrude she has only half her right arm, not sure if from birth or accident, thing is, in our house in a way there is no such thing as 'normal' we are all different and who are we to say what is and what isn't normal!

having a chuckle at ladymac and Mark story and Clive Owen, oh yes

best be off on the school run, at least the weather isn't too bad

MUM41 at people complaining about that presenter. What message are they giving their DC? With you all the way on the pointlessness of 'normal' - but fight you for Clive Owen

Just to brag a little to all the newbies that don't know, my 20 year old ds captained his Cambridge college team on this series of University Challenge, getting knocked out in the 2nd round by a team from the LSE, most of whom looked about twice his age.

For all his cleverness/intelligence (call it what you will) he is shockingly lacking in the common sense department which drives me up the wall. He is also hopeless at managing his money which also bugs me but fortunately I am not in a position to bale him out.