40 + mums with baby tums & those who've already 'popped' with muffin tops - come say Hi!

[jeanjeannie]

Yet ANOTHER thread. Like it says - those of you who've waved bye bye to 39 come and say Hi to us instead.

We think that 40 is the new 20, cyber cake is the new weight-watchers and older mums rock

So, if you fit that description come and play with us. We like cake, gossip an occasional luke warm debate and a good moan! Oh and we're also very friendly and supportive!

OK everyone.....take it away x

JW I guess, and remember I have no kids yet, so I may be speaking out of my bottom, if DH 'pretended' to be asleep when something like that happened, I'd be pulling the covers off of him and kicking him out of bed.

It just seems to me that a lot of women just accept that the man isn't going to help, and then they get angry/resentful that they are left holding the bucket (of vomit in this case!! ).

I actually had to take 'relationships' out of my Active Conversations list on here because I was so annoyed with how many people's DH's got away with crap like that.

johnworf I have looked at that low GI diet, however, the stuff they recommend (high fibre, corn, peas, whole grain, kidney beans, brown rice, uncooked veg, and such) are all foods that aggravate my diverticular disease. Hence the frustration. I'm trying to find middle ground, but it's like walking through a mine field. Plus the midwife stated I would need to check my blood sugars regularly, and honestly I would like to know how far out they are and be able to start working on it now. I think when I do finally meet with the diabetic team, I am going to suggest they send info home with people when they take that GTT, so that if it does come back high, they have SOME sort of guideline to follow for the week or so until they can get in to see them. Otherwise it's just stressful, when they could easily provide a little info ahead of time.

It's British thing Tee we don't like to make a fuss and like to suffer!

I must admit I have been pointing DH in the right direction a bit more recently, I was getting P**ed off at him not doing stuff but if I point it out he is happy to do it.

Hi girls. I feel very smug at the moment. I have just booked myself a free nuchal fold scan, having been told previously to cough up £155. I am also going to have my babies at Southampton where I had the others (even though it is 1 1/2 hours away) I just rang the midwife and told her! I think they were a little bit anxious that their trust would be billed for this but I think in the long run I will save them money! I feel really relieved!

Oh, well done Neddie - how did you manage that?

Well I asked where I could get it done and the midwife said several different clinics all of which cost money (lots)so I asked if anywhere did it free and she said Southampton and then I had the ingenious idea that maybe in this day and age people who actually pay into the system (and not health tourists) might actually get something they deserve- so i rang and booked it myself! I wanted to have the sprogs at Southampton but they said it was too far away- but now it's twins and I can have a caesarian it's Ok. besides my parents live in the New Forest and can visit me when I have them and DP can crash at their place and get a lift in and stay with me all day- they are very good about visitors at Southampton- my Dad was practically living there when my mum was having her cancer treatments.

Well done neddie I like your style of 'telling then' That's a weight off your mind....so now you can concentrate on the weight on your tummy!!

triggles Oooo you are a mine field - poor thing So, what's good for one thing, triggers off something else....eeek! No scope there for taking cravings into consideration!

ello all

just a quickie - my OH does my nut with his ability to ignore D harrumphing and even crying in the morning. He will just lie there and feign sleep. He doesn't do this at feeding time but he refuses to accomodate D's early rising. I think if I wasn't there he would just leave him at it until he was ready to get up. This has caused one or two squabble in recent days.

jj fab news that there is nothing to worry about and it is clealry a case of over zealous hv.

jw didn't know about the cerebral palsy either, and certainly didn't know it didn't show up until later - I guess they are taking about relatively mild cerebral palsy. Every time you tell us about the various things that K has faced I always think how much more challenging life is on an ongoing basis for a premie than you would be led to believe from reading stories about them in the press.

triggles I thought the same about leaving you hanging after the GD diagnosis - but when I went to see the dietician they basically said that the only banned foods are sugar, fizzy drinks (fruit juice) and sweets. In theory you should be able to eat all of your normal foods by changing how you eat them. For e.g white bread is one of the worst culprits for putting blood sugar up as it is so highly processed - but if you combine it with protein or fats (meat or cheese) these will slow down the absorption of the sugar and its fine. So I used to eat yummy blts and these didn't cause any problems for me. You realy just have to eat smaller portions of carbs than you might be used to having (for example 8 grapes rather than half a bunch). It is not as drastic as you may fear. I was able to keep my sugar readings within desirable parameters fairly easily.

triggles I absolutely agree with you that they need to send info home with people even if it is that they might have GD. Too many women are freaking out because they think they are harming their baby.

Let me just assure you that it is weeks and weeks of untreated high blood sugar that will hurt the baby. And by weeks I mean like 6, 7 months of them. So waiting a week for information is not going to hurt your baby, or yourself.

If it will help, here are my carb counts (remember, though, that I was already Type II when I got knocked up, so yours might wind up being different): -

Breakfast 50 g carbs
snack 10 g carbs
lunch 40 g carbs
snack 15 g carbs
Dinner 60 g carbs

Maybe that will at least give you a guideline!

mrsb and tee thank you for that info. My stress level has been so out of orbit lately over this and everything else (FIL, SPD, etc etc), this was just another thing to stress over. I will try to make sure I eat meat or cheese with white bread and look at carbs closer until I get in to see them. I much prefer being told "keep everything within these numbers" than saying "you can only eat these types of foods" as then I can eat stuff that doesn't aggravate the diverticular disease, but still stay within my counts by being .. um.. creative. I might end up with some odd meal combinations, but don't you always when pregnant?

still laughing at voles in armpits ...

I didn't know about cerebal palsy and prem babies. I thought it was something you knew about at birth. Gosh - it's just not fair s it really - all the stress and trauma.

M is fast asleep now and (I think) much better. Suspect that yes - it is one of these vom-bugs going round - probably from nursery. She asked for peas earlier so had a bowl of peas and sweetcorn. Odd child.

Been to the park with M and my nephew and niece - will stick photo in profile. With her nappy and puffy coat M looks like she has a huge bum and tiny legs. But my neice is a (cute) twiglet so will dwarf anyone.

Have to say I think that stressed woman needs to kick a few bums. My hubby was up at 1:30am changing the vomit-sheets and rinsing them in the bath while I help poor sicky baby (and no questions asked). I think if he hadn't (or it was stress woman's husband) ...I'd have booted him out of bed. no room for bleedin martyrs in a parent's life!

jeanjeannie, well done to Iris for being top of her class after one session. Even if she was the only child there We're starting something called 'Talking Tots' on Wednesday mornings. I wonder if it's a similar idea to what you've just been to. Our one is aimed at deaf and hearing children 2 and over with a speech delay and as Elizabeth is almost 2 she's allowed in. They have a deaf teacher, speech therapist, music therapist and a nursery nurse there. I don't know how many kids attend. We found out about it through the North London Deaf Children's Society and don't have to go on any waiting list. Will let you know what it's like.

All this talk of lady gardens is making me laugh - I love that Smack the Pony sketch. I tried to ahem tidy mine up a couple of weeks ago, which is usually all it needs as I am actually a natural blonde (sorry if tmi) but of course I couldn't see what I was doing. My position in front of the mirror was quite something and if there was a specialised kind of porn magazine featuring 'older pregnant bush trimming readers wives' I could have sent in my picture and earned a few bob towards the new pushchair!

Because I couldn't see what I was doing and frightened of snipping something I shouldn't I had to give up and therefore am left with what can only be described as a mullet. DH thought it was hilarious of course. I've told him he has to finish the job though finding the right time thus far has proved impossible and as daylight is needed for such a job and as there's no time on weekday mornings it has to be a weekend and I'm worried about Grace walking in. Unless it can be sorted soon I will be giving birth with my unusual hairdo

Afternoon ladies

jw I didn't know about cerabal palsy and prem babies either, and like jj said the fact that she is doing so well in her growth and development should be a good thing!
voles under the armpits indeed lol

neddie at the hospital where I had DT's a nuchal scan is done free of charge automatically if it's twins as the the triple blood test is only able to detect abnormalities in a single pregnancy!

jj relatively new to this post so not fully aware of the situation but glad it went well at speech therapy, hope her sniffles didn't come to anything too!

ermintrude oh, ok, thought it was about modern women and stress....

hate to sound smug but I do have a wonderful DH he really is my rock and we share everything, the good things and the not so good things but then this is my third bite at the cherry but it definately is third time lucky

*Ladymac that is hilarious, not least because I know exactly where you're coming from, that was me last year

I thought about asking for a c-section so my make-up won't run. However, I prefer the idea of breaking DH's hand when I'm having contractions. Thanks for the tip! By the way, when DH asked me what DH stood for on MN, I told him it stood for Dick Head.

ladymac It's a good job your window cleaner wasn't due on the day of your trim. I was also thinking that you could make it a feature of seducing your DH in the near future. Along the lines of 'would you like to comb my mullet?' or alternatively, and my favourite, 'would you like mullet and chips tonight?' (must be accompanied by a Monty Pythonesque wink). Still, it sould be worse and you could have an afro like myself

I think a lot of the martyrdom from women is because they've nagged so bloody much in the past they're fed up of doing it and just get on with it, albeit resentfully. I look at DH in bed sometimes when the baby monitor is reverberating with her cries so much, it's doing a dance across the chest of drawers, and he's snoring! So I think bugger this for a game of soldiers and do it as I don't like leaving her crying.....and it's that sort of thing that mostly p***es me off.

I got a badge today for being cruel and wicked stepmother of the year as DH came back from GPs and he has tonsillitis I'm a bitch for thinking he was play acting to get off school. Anyway, he's got penicillin and can go back in on Thursday. He doesn't seem very ill and is desperate to get on his Xbox but I've said he must rest on his bed and he can read books but nothing more strenuous. Lordy. Talking of GPs....

..........I'm off to mine in a couple of hours. I'm going to chance my arm and ask him for some xenical which is akin to Alli. What do you think my chances are? Anyone on here already asked? I'm going to play my 'potential diabetes candidate' ace card and hope that'll swing it for me.

LMFAO @ DH = dick head. How very apt

tabitha lmao at DH that was funny!

I can't really complain about DH though. He's always been great about doing stuff around the house and taking care of kids and all. But he's really taken the brunt of everything the last few months, between morning sickness and SPD. A number of times recently he's gotten up with DS2 early and been careful not to wake me up, especially when he knew I hadn't had a good night's sleep. Things have been quite stressful here, so I think at this point, we're trying to keep the other from losing their mind!

I did learn long ago that DH often doesn't do things just the way I do, but it's not worth stressing over. I know women that, when DH takes laundry in and folds towels, they have to refold them "their way". Not me - folded is folded - I'm not fussed!

Ladymac What a scenario you could call it "Carry on Bush Trimming". I think my worst efforts arise from trimming a bit too much on one side and then trimming to be symmetrical to the point that there is not much left anywhere. Why do I suddenly hope then that a bus doesn't run me over and I have to explain what's happened.
God I hope no-one that knows me is reading this!

I remember not long after i had DD2 that due to riding too soon after birth I had set up a haematoma that then developed into an abscess. I sat in the casualty department (which was full of course)with my legs apart in absolute agony and a series of receptionists asking what's the matter in a loud voice.
I just couldn't bear to shout back "IT'S MY FANNY" Oh the shame.....

Oh God neddie that is making me wince just reading it. Were you worrying then about whether you were neat and tidy?

Huzzah! Got xenecal but not having it unil tomorow as DH has done pizza and I guess that isn't low fat. Don't want to fill my pants on the first day

what's xenecal?? never heard of it

ladymac OOooo what a sexy picture you form in the mind's eye Reminds me of when I had my elec C-section DP had to get down there and sort out the mess! I was SOOOO nervous - I mean he always has stubble - permantantly - so I knew his razor skills could be dodgy. Oh he was cock-a-hoop when the neatness of his masterpiece was commented upon by the midwife

Our playgroup is just for 2-4 whose parents have 'concerns' and have been refered. They theme it each week so they have new words to work on. This week was furniture and the kitchen....Iris knew virtually everything, including that the oven was 'hot, hot, hot' hat's off to Big Cook, Little Cook for teaching my child

neddie oh I've come over all faint!

jw pray do tell us more about this Xenecal...huddles closer to hear Sounds like a strange cousin of Benecol

Verity looks like she's tipped chilli all over her...and in a way - she has! Hahhaha nowt like giving an 8mth old a spoon with dinner - for a laugh!

Oh no, fun and games here, washing machine has been making rather loud clanging noises slowly getting worse over the weekend, DH called repair man today who basically said be cheaper in the long run to replace so DH been driving around all the local towns in order to get a machine to suit (as you can imagine needs to be able to take large loads ) that was in stock to take home today, managed to get one and now changing over, hence I'm in another room where the noise and possibly swearing will be muted a little

jj chilli hey my boys like fruity chicken curry wouldn,t dare give them a spoon though they've just got the hang of aiming toast and fruit fingers

Oh, thats where my sock went one out just one to bring in now

Oh, Xenical is like Alli. It stops your body absorbing fat in food and expels it if you have too much. Problem is, if you have high fat food, then you poo your pants I think anything below 10% fat is considered low although I've just read the blurb that comes in the box and says that you can have 'wind with leakage' when you first start using it. GP gave it me when I asked and I have to go back in a month to be weighed.

I wouldn't let DH anywhere near my busted mattress with a sharp implement. We didn't nickname him Frank Spencer for nowt

Aww isn't it nice when the LO's wear the food as well as eat (a little bit of) it? K's already trying to grab the bowl. She's fascinated by the dog at the moment though. I have visions of her crawling to the dog just to pinch him.