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ladymac · 30/12/2008 16:45

Have taken the plunge, hope this is acceptable to everybody.

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ermintrude13 · 14/01/2009 11:10

Good moaning

Poor MrsB, JW was right about Davina being a fiend from the depths of hell after all. Hope D gives you a rest and that you haven't pulled anything nasty.

Tee glad your endo appt went so well! Not quite sure about your cryptic work advice, but hope it doesn't mean you've got into any trouble.

Floria - I add my sympathies to everyone else'; what a terribly young age for your friend to die, I hope her family and friends are all getting throught this awful time.

JW you seem to have sorted out your own DC and their OHs very conveniently; scattered about the interesting end of the retail trade and offering discounts a-bongo. Well done you!

And, to take the tone downhill yet again:
In pop psychology type analysis, handbags, like shoes, are supposed to represent a lady's downstairs department. So young girls go for teeny clutch bags with tight clasps, mothers have capacious bags with broken zips and old ladies have moc-crock holdalls which gape. . Your neat new bag is looking good on this basis JW, but not sure about hedgepig's preference for a rucksac . My bags certainly have become larger - if not actually saggier - over time.

Tee2072 · 14/01/2009 11:14

JW

I am counting the days until I can go on Maternity leave. That's how much I don't like my job any more. I was actually looking for a new one when I got pregnant. So I'll sweat it out until then!

johnworf · 14/01/2009 11:19

LMFAO @ pop psychology and handbags! Yes, I've a small, compact yet deceptively spacious one. Easy on the eye too And yes hedgepig, your choice of bag is rather worrying given ermintrudes theory

Talking of lady gardens had interesting phone call from DD#1 as she was off into Manchester to have her usual brazilian wax done Didn't know she had them until last night and in comparison mine is as overgrown as Miss Havisham's garden. As I explained to her though, I've no one to impress with mine as DH is in such a rush when we do actually get the time and energy for sex, that it could be bright purple spots for all he knows (or cares)

Are you ladies with DD's taking notes of what the future holds for you....?

johnworf · 14/01/2009 11:21

OOOh tee hang on to it until you get all of your benefits. You can always find something after LO is born. Tbh I hated being a PA and resented that I was essentially running the business while some arse who was far less qualified than myself sat on their fat backside and took the glory.

That's why I work for myself now

mrsboogie · 14/01/2009 11:46

ermintrude so how does this theory apply to shoes then?

Am loving this new piece of art commissioned by the Czech presidency that has outraged the EU institutions. The artist (a bit of an enfant terrible by all accounts) pretended it would be a compilation of pieces by artists from 27 countries but he did it all himself and it takes the piss out of each country good and proper. He wanted to see if Europe could laugh at itself. The answer seems to be a resounding no. I think they are going to take it down..

Tee2072 · 14/01/2009 11:51

Oh, I love being a PA jw. I have been doing admin work for over 20 years and am happy to have someone else deal with most of the stress.

The issue right now is that I am no longer just the PA/Office Manager. I am also the graphic artist, web master, Assistant Company Secretary etc etc etc. I am basically doing 12 jobs for my same salary. And some of the people are less than pleasant!

hedgepig · 14/01/2009 11:54

ermuntrude not only do I prefer a rucksack, If I do get a handbag I get a very cheap one I wonder what that says about me, I thnk I would rather not know.

TEE hang in there, I found work really hard with this pg, my head was in the clouds most of the time. It sounds like your boss is supporting you (or did I get that wrong).

I'm off to school to have a word about Bs writing, it is getting worse rather than better.

ermintrude13 · 14/01/2009 12:01

JW if my DD wants to have a Brazilian - bearing in mind she'll need to go through puberty first and at 10 there's not much sign of it being imminent - phew! - I shall tell her it'll look like she's got syphillis. And she'll say, God, Mum, you're like soooo off-message. And then I'll rifle around in my air-hangar-sizes bag for a tissue in which to weep tears of maternal sorrow in the knowledge that my baby has grown up and is showing people her fanny.

Poor Tee, it's rotten that you don't like your job, but as others have said, take a deep breath and do what you have to and then rethink after mat leave. Less than 5 months to go!

mrsb the shoe thing is more symbolic, about sexuality and growing up. You'll find it in fairy tales a lot, Grimm and even pre-Grimm - like the 12 princesses who get up at night to 'dance' with young men and are discovered (by their v angry father, who locks them up to protect them from 'harm') by the terrible state of their worn-out 'shoes'; the dancing shoes which take control and lead their wearer to perform a wild tarantella and eventually to exhaustion (a warning against female libido); Cinderalla's teeny tiny virginal glass slipper which the prince covets, even Dorothy's ruby slippers which are part of her discovering the powers that lie within herself. When a girl in a folk tale left home to seek her fortune/save her family, she often packed up her few belongings in a red-spotted handkerchief, another sort of 'bag' which is a symbol of reaching womanhood ie. the spots represented menstrual blood).

Subtext, dontcha just love it?

mrsboogie · 14/01/2009 12:02

tee I had zero patience with work while pg too and especially my colleagues. Perhaps we will be able to better tolerate them when going back after? time will tell!

mrsboogie · 14/01/2009 12:08

indeed - I knew obviously that shoes are v linked to sex (in my experience most blokes have had a thing for shoes in the bedroom) but didn't cop that shoes are symbolic of the actual fanjo itself. Makes sense though.

I have twice been in the situation where male acquaintances (once, in the lift, a work colleague I barely know) have described in great detail for me the shoes that they have seen me wearing in the the past.

BonzoDoodah · 14/01/2009 12:42

FloriaTosca - so, so sorry about your friend. We have a close friend who had stomach troubles for months and months. She eventually went to hospital and ended up with a massive operation including hysterectomy - same thing - ovarian cancer. Hideous - such a silent killer. Our friend is goign through chemo now - one of the lucky ones by all accounts. It could so easily have been different. So I really feel for you and your friend. Sorry.

BonzoDoodah · 14/01/2009 12:44

Dexter = criminally insane - the boy needs therapy .... (google it if you think I'm bonkers - I'm going to be singing it all day!)

Had my scan yesterday and all was well and there's ONE little wriggler in there. Kicking away! Hurrah - massive relief! Scan pic looks like a budgie (according to my sister). Due end of July as I thought. Told poeple at work this morning so I can relax and let the belly hang out now ... pass the chocolate!

FloriaTosca · 14/01/2009 12:53

OMG! I'm now looking at my handbag and shoes with utter horror!Bulky, built for comfort, boring, cheap and in need of a good wipe over !

FloriaTosca · 14/01/2009 13:04

bonzo fabulous scan result{grin]congratulations.
Thank you and everyone else for the sympathy re my friend. I think we are all still angry that it wasn't detected sooner... I can't believe what her family are going through ...

johnworf · 14/01/2009 13:17

Ah well, now shoes are a totally different matter. I'm not really the Posh 5" heel wearing tottering to school and back kinda person. I like flats. Mostly clarks flats. However, I do have some wedges which are quite funky and I own high heels but find I look like Dick Emery when I walk in them ("oooh you are awful, but I like you"). No idea what that says about me. I do like comfort now I'm getting on, especially on my feet. And I have nice feet that aren't like my mother's bunion/corn riddled ones.

Floria "Bulky, built for comfort, boring, cheap and in need of a good wipe over " LOL !

I'm sure that stilettoes were originally made so that a) they made women's hips wiggle and b) they couldn't run in them (although I'm sure that some can).

duchesse · 14/01/2009 13:26

hello all. Am a bit rusty about all this. have first midwife appointment on Friday and can't for life of me remember whether they can use their doppler at this early stage to detect a heartbeat? I have so few expectations of this pregnancy I am fully expecting to discover a mmc at the scan at the end of the month but would like to be a little forewarned.

Sorry not to be more present with you but I am negotiating a weird emotional rollercoaster and can't quite bring myself to be "out" and happy about this.

ermintrude13 · 14/01/2009 13:47

duchesse sorry you're feeling worried and hope the scan will reassure you. If this is your booking appt with the m/w - before your first scan at around 12 wks - then no, a heartbeat won't be audible. Seeing it at the scan is usually the first confirmation of heartbeat.

But if it's your 16-wk appt then you can ask the MW to use the doppler - they don't always offer because it's sometimes hard to track it down - but I asked and found it reassuring to hear it.

Hope that helps x

jeanjeannie · 14/01/2009 14:56

Gosh - loads of chat - I've been online tax filing

Bonzo WHAHAHAHAH The Avalanches - I'm not the only one - it was spinning in my head all day yesterday!!!!! Great news on scan - *hands over HUGE box of Milk Tray!

ermintrude I'm now looking at my shoes in horror.... Knee high boots are my thing.....??? *weeps - I'm sure that's bad. As for bags - medium and slack.....yeah, sounds about right.

jw lucky you with nice feet My hard skin is a thing of legend - due to being a slutty type, prone to unsuitable shoes in my youth. Plus all the fashion PRs used to give away designer samples and I couldn't resist squashing feet into Prada or Gucci!!! Mind you - my Xmas pressie - the Ped-Egg has been working wonders!

FLoria am PMSL @ your shoe collection description - priceless.

tee I'm for you - I hate that 'one job becomes all jobs' - it's rotten. Trouble is it's often a back-handed compliment in some way as it means you're good enough to handle it - but people will take the p*ss.

Awww duchesse my MW used a doppler - but here in Bucks you get a late first appointment - not till after the scan. The very first is when they come to your home to fill out forms - and check you're not living in squalor! Let us know how you get on

johnworf · 14/01/2009 16:00

JJ totally agree on the job front where one job covers all. I think the term in the job spec is 'ad hoc duties'.

In the end I knew I had to go when my manager was sending me to Boots for his pile cream FFS. Notice handed in next day.

jeanjeannie · 14/01/2009 16:13

Pile cream eh? For his arse or his eyes? My mate's mum discovered pile cream for her son's wedding.....I tell you - in the pics she looks literally 15 years younger

That's why I like working for me, me, me!! Although I haven't earnt enough this year to warrent my lovely accountant doing my return. She said I'd be fine - but I hate it and I want to cry. Nasty website....nasty....nasty

lilibet · 14/01/2009 16:21

Hello

wow, you can't half chat!

It takes ages to catch up every time I come on.

Floria - [hugs]

jw - lovely bag

I went for an Indian with my book group last night and have been poorly all day, hence no work. I don't think there is a connection as I have been there lots but I have had a real exploding bottom!!

Ermintrude will you be my new best friend - you are going to be sooooooo handy in a while - I'm starting this next month

Sorry - can't stay, the boys are killing oen another

jeanjeannie · 14/01/2009 16:27

lilibet hahaha you might get one of Ermintrude's tomes to read!!!

at exploding botty

ermintrude13 · 14/01/2009 16:52

I don't think I'm on the OU set text list yet, but it's early days...

lilibet that course looks great. I've not read the Turgenev and the Romantic fiction anthology but know the rest of old - some good stuff there. Are you doing it for fun, or with a view to taking the studies further?

My friend says gay men have known about the eye-tightening (as opposed to eye-watering) effects of pile cream for decades. I'd probably get a terrible reaction to it and come out in hives.

Floria lol your shoes and bags . It's probably true that at our age we go more for comfort, having done all our teetering about as slips of girls, and that's a metaphor for more than footwear. Although actually I lived in a pair of Doc Marten's throughout my late teens and through my studenthood - sturdy, unattractive and a wee bit lesbian meter-readeresque. hmmm, I shan't dwell on that.

JW i too am at your nice feet. I need to file my heels down ready to put in strappy sandals for a wedding this weekend, and was considering going to a chiropodist but I fear a farrier may be more appropriate .

mrsboogie · 14/01/2009 17:09

oh how fab lilibet I have wanted to do something like this for yonks. Haven't worked up the guts to even apply though. This will sound really stupid but I quite often have really detailed dreams after which I wake up and think they would be a great bais for a piece of fiction. I told one of them to OH once and he has been pestering me ever since to write it down.

ermintrude's no doubt thinking "uh oh they're coming out of the woodwork now"

lilibet · 14/01/2009 19:02

I'm almost half way with my OU, I have 150 points, you need 360 for a Hons and this course is worth 60.

I did World Religions last and that was really fascinating.

They do a creative writing course with the OU MrsB, I know that a few on here have done it.

I'm doing it because for many years I was told that I couldn't by my ex, so I'm doing it because I can and to see if I can do it as I (foolishly) left school at 16. Won't do anything with it I don't think as I do like my job in finance.

I had heard about pile cream for the eyes but have never done it.

What do fluffy slippers say about you? Or boots that need heeling?

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