40+ Yummy (or not-so-yummy) Mummies, Come and Eat Cake

[ladymac]

Have taken the plunge, hope this is acceptable to everybody.

I don't think she's a toll, JW. Just a moron!

Oh no, now I feel responsible for everyone's blood pressure rising! Thanks for your msg on the June thread, Tee, not that madam saw its sense. JW, I don't think it's a troll either, just a rather dogmatic person who thinks that cos her experience was x so everyone else's is bound to be x. Which is bad enough, but when x means telling first-timers that labour 'hurts like a bitch' I feel a bit of balance is needed because stuff that strikes terror into the hearts of pregnant women is as bad as info which says labour is like a big sneeze and bingo! there's the baby .

Anyoldhow, I shall try to rise above it and return to this far more important issue about sourcing Davina DVDs, safe in the knowledge that I don't have to, hurrah!

Actually, ermintrude I enjoy doing things like that!! So thanks for the opportunity!

I almost said 'you could get one from your local library, or do you not know what books are in France' but retracted the last bit.

Why the hell is she on a UK board anyway?

haha - I have sneaked a peek - if it ain't on Google it doesn't exist! It's funny how younger people (I assume she is young) seem to see Google as an oracle of Truth. maybe it's not actually that funny

She's actually 37, which is strange. Surely the closer to 40 one gets the wiser and calmer one becomes? [hmm}

Tee, I thought you just held back enough on the book issue (ie. didn't start WW3 with some anti-French comments!) - and loved the 'I can't provide the ref for my conversation with my sis' .

mrsb she can buy the bloody book now, but it's so not the point of what I was saying. Nor is demanding page numbers common practice on MN (JW I insist that you state exactly where you saw that Davina is availble at Asda, otherwise you must withdraw the comment )

Right, deep breaths, tra la la, I can smell my lovely chicken casserole cooking away and am going to have a lovely lazy Sunday.

OOH, chicken casserole. What time should I be there for dinner?

Actually, I am making lamb stew, but not for several hours!

Have, however, shifted all the bookcases around so landlord can remove bed tomorrow!! One step closer to a nursery!

oooh are you decorating tee?

We won't have a nursery for a long time. My DS1 occupies the only other bedroom and anyway Mr D won't sleep for longer than ten or fifteen mins in a room on his own before he somehow realises that we are not there and wakes up. That instinct for making sure that mummy and daddy don't leave him in the cave and wander too far in search of woolly mammoths is particularly strong in this one

37? blimey. Good command of English though.

Mmmm Chicken casserole. We will be having chicken cooked with mozzarella and tomatoes with salad. Casserole sounds miles better.

Tee I hope it is DH moving the book cases and not you.

I'm making butternut squash soup for lunch, yumm. I'm also playing play dough at the same time what fun!

Wet here today. Great though as it's warmed up the temp a bit.

This person sounds like a pain in the arse to me. Hope she's snooping around at your other threads tee and ermintrude and then you won't have to tell her to bog off as she'll read it on here.

There's plenty of parochial people on this board. Personally I just ignore them as I really can't be bothered with their opinions being rammed down my throat. Prolly why I just stay in my comfort zone on this thread

Day 3 of no bread and really not missing it so far. Thought I would as I love bread, pasta and all stodge that is fattening.

DH gone off to Costco so lord only knows what he'll arrive back with. I gave him a list but that will dutifully be ignored

Oh yeah hedgepig I just took books on and off the shelves!

mrsB only so far as we moved bookcases so the landlord can take the bed out of the nursery. Nothing else will be done for quite awhile!

Bah! and double bah! for curiousity getting the better of me and me actually looking at the shit this woman has posted. I don't know about you ladies but I come on here for a bit of light relief, a laugh, sometimes comfort or to vent. I am not marking your posts with a virtual red pen and remarking 'could do better. C+'

You'll never shut her up. She's got her own opinion which you are supposed to not only share, but agree wholeheartedly with.

Silly cow.

I have had only one slice of bread this week. - think it is just question of getting used to it. I did buy a rye and pumpkin seed loaf yesterday - it looks like it will taste of damp cardboard Hopefully I can disguise it with slatherings of peanut butter.

I saw a dreadful post in the parenting section the other day. Some kind soul had come on to post the happy outcome of a very long and difficult saga with a non-sleeping baby. Over, I think, 18 months she had tried everything including cc (once), sleep therapists and doctors but didn't find out what the problem was until she pushed for a second medical opinion and found out that the baby had a digestive problem that caused her pain and prevented her sleeping well. The poster was so relieved and happy that it was sorted and wanted to post in case it helped anyone in similar circs. So this mardy sour faced judgemental git responds to her post by saying how awful it was that she had inflicted cc on her baby and then found out she was ill and could now be happy with herself. FFS. The poster was clearly a loving mum who had done everything in her power to fix the problem and this git reads this and manages to find something to criticise.

There will always be one in every crowd, mrsb. Some people are just not happy until they bring the rest of the world down with them.

I also wanted to ask you...I assume from your post about D not sleeping on his own that you keep him in your room? Is he in a crib in there?

I am asking because the 6 months rooming in thing is very foreign to me. All my nieces and nephews were in their own rooms from the start, so never had any trouble sleeping that way, except for usual baby stuff like colic etc. So I am not really sure what the logic is to it.

And honestly I am not inclined to follow the recommended guidelines. I can see having the baby in our room for about a month, with naps in their cot, but 6 months or longer? I really can't see it, unless someone can tell me why it is better for the baby, in terms of overall health.

Yes tee he is an Amby Hammock by the side of the bed.

Goes without saying that this is a personal choice for everyone (no right and wrong etc) but it just wouldn't have occurred to me not to have him in with us. Lately there have been suggestions that the risk of SIDS is reduced by having baby sleeping in the same room as parents where somehow your breathing may possibly help to regulate theirs. Also, I am way too lazy to be getting up out of bed and going to another room to settle him in the middle of the night. As it is I can reach out and rock him or shussh him back to sleep and I can take him out of the hammock for feeding without getting out of bed.

I'm not at how many months old the risk of SIDS falls off (six?) but I envisage having him in the same room with us until he is at least 18 months. Not for any welfare reasons - just to have him close and for convenience. My DS1 slept in the same room as me till he was 2ish and there was never a problem with him going into his own room after that.

Having said that I would love to have a nicely decorated nursery for him and OH is forever picking out stuff to put in it. By the time he does get his own room it will be a fabulously decorated one

btw - Amy Hammock = fab!

Oops sorry Tee, the casserole has all disappeared. DS ate it all once we said that the swede was in fact very pale carrot. I know one shouldn't lie to one's DC but surely I can make an exception for his 5 a day... . But my DH will be round yours 6ish, if that's OK, because he's always complaining I don't cook lamb enough and it's his favourite. Hope that's OK, he'll bring a bottle

mrsb that OP sounds awful! There must be people who use MN to spout their own opinions without thinking for a moment what effect it has on all the mums who are doing the best they can - and whose DC's habits don't always follow textbook patterns...
which means that as you said to Tee, working out where your baby sleeps is a personal choice. My mum put us all in a crib by her bed for 3 months and then it was into the cot in our own rooms. With both mine I had the crib by the bed but for more like 6 months, and DD was actually in the bed till 8 months because she wanted to be latched on and feeding all the time (and to stop this habit I confess I used CC and it worked in 3 days, so whip me if you want ). DS didn't like getting all hot and sweaty in bed and liked his own space. My main reason for having them close was sheer idleness - I could scoop them up and feed them in bed without having to move much!

JW well done for resisting those carbs. I tried a version of Atkins once and found I missed my lunchtime sarnie so much, I used to wrap thin slices of ham around chunks of cheese and pretend

of course its always ok to lie about veg ermintrude

Idleness is a major factor in the sleeping arrangements chez moi - I won't lie!

Hello everyone. My name is Jeanjeannie and I've fallen off the diet wagon

Night out was lovely - so was the copious amounts of tapas, red meat, lashings of paella and way tooooo much red wine. I actually felt tres sick this morning.

ermintrude I hate to bring up 'she who cannot be named' from the June thread but...........THANK YOU for telling her what's what!!! I've fallen out with her before on a names thread. It was unbelievable - sooo ignorant and self-obsessed. She claimed no one on MN had any idea about ensuring their children's names had any cultural significance I went for her like a crazy Jack Russell at a trouser leg It was mighty pleasing AND I got a grudging apology!

tee I think the own room or in with parents is a 'suck it and see' kind of deal. Iris hated being in with us and she was mainly bottle fed - so, she did sleep from about 12 weeks virtually all night. With Verity - TOTALLY different. All my fears/problems re-breastfeeding flew out of the window and it was full-on from day one. Verity was a BOOBIES girl! Laziness got the better of me and I stuck the cot next to me. She'd cry I'd bung her next to me - occasionally I'd nap with her, then wake up and then just pop her in her cot. The thought of crossing the landing or sitting in a chair to feed, in the dead of night just wasn't going to happen! Since weaning - she sleeps so much better and now she's finally in her bed and loves it. Any sooner would have been a nightmare - she'd have been a mess and I'd have been even more knackered then I aleady was!

Can we be bothered to go to the park???????

I would try cc when he is a bit older if I thought it would work - I have a strong feeling it wouldn't work on this little fella though

jj all of that food /drink sounds absolutely fine you didn't mention bread or spuds!

That's another good point - you might plan to have one articular sleeping arrangement and the baby might decide on a totally different one

Hahaha no bread or spuds - but that rice sure made up for it. Oh I may have forgotten to mention the bread........

We've been looking at tents - the Diablo is appealing greatly. It's credit crunch holiday planning.

mrsb I was going to ask if anyone had used an Amby. How long can you keep them in there for?

And I totally agree that all my careful plans will go flying out the window if the little brat...er child wants something different than what I want! If it absolutely won't sleep by itself, then obviously its next to me it goes!

JJ wasn't ermintrude awesome in the June thread? I told her I loved her and meant every word. That person makes me batty!!!

Can't go the park here JJ lashing down rain off and on. But by all means, you should go!

Go go Ermintrude - silly moo over there. (Isn't a good argument fun sometimes).

I had a whole list of things I was going to do today - take DD swimming, go to see Great Grandma (even if she is an old battelaxe), walking in the park, tidying up and planting bulbs. Reality is- I had a lie-in while DH went for a run with DD in Phil and Teds (what a freak and angel combined). Since then I've slugged around and felt shattered. Anyone remember when the utter overwhelming tiredness subsides? I'm SHATTERED all the time. Sleeping 2-3 hours on sofa and then all night in bed too. Zzzzzz
Scan on Tuesday so getting nervous and excited.

Yes lilibet - I'm in the NW - south manch. Seems quite a few of us here.

Talking of babies sleeping close - I reluctantly let DD into her own room around 7 months - was soooo convenient for BF til then. It worked alright and she'd just about started sleeping through the night then so worked for us. A work colleague's wife had a baby 8 weeks ago and she's BF. BUT when she wakes in the night to feed - she goes downstairs! So she doesn't wake hubby and so she doesn't fall asleep herself! I've been trying to convince her this is madness and making a hard time out of something that should be easy - but I don't know if she's listening. Any ideas or just let her be? (think hubby is selfish for not insisting she stays!)

I would just let her be bonzo. I will probably do the same, at least not go downstairs, as we don't have one! But take the baby out or go to baby, especially after DH goes back to work.

I think it is equally selfish both ways. Why shouldn't he sleep, since he has to go to work?

tee You can keep them in the Amby as long as they will fit in it really (D is nearly the full of it now but he is in age 6-9 months clothing so he is long) usually around the 9 months mark I think. I think the main thing is when they start trying to turn round and its quite difficult in an Amby so that's when you might to put them in a cot. You can get an extra spring to add to the weight bearing capability if the baby gets too heavy.

We love it - it takes up v little room, it looks nice, he sleeps very well in it (most important and the reason we got it as we had heard about this) and he loves being gently swung or bounced to sleep in it. Also it provides security for young babies as it is enclosed so they feel cocooned. Would definitely recommend it.

I should be on commission!

My BIL has an old school friend whose wife has insisted with all 3 of their DC that when she feeds the baby in the night he has to wake up and either talk to her to keep her company or do some household job, otherwise it's 'not fair' . He commutes into London so gets up at 5.30 and returns home at 7.00 - at which point she hands baby and both toddlers over to him and goes upstairs for a rest while he gets the children to bed and then cooks dinner. She has a weekly cleaner, and the reason he commutes is so she can live near her mum, who is retired and spends most of her days with her daughter and the DC, including looking after them while this woman goes to the gym, swimming and beautician . Whenever my sis and her DH have them round for dinner, the teetotal wife says it's 'not fair' for her to drive because she has the car all day and he has the comfort of the train, so he can't have even one glass of wine. My sis avoids going to theirs because the wife spends the meal criticising her DH's cooking. I love hearing about this couple; it makes me feel extremely - not at all dysfunctional .

Fortunately my DH would sleep through a B52 raid, so my feeding a baby next to him just doesn't register. . I can just imagine what he'd say if I suggested he join me and the babe for a little chat...