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mornin' ladies

and the conversation continues...

lilibet I'd not worry about sending her anything. The way romances are so fleeting at that age he'll have chucked her by then, spent the 20 quid and have another girly in his eyeline .

Gosh, if only my love life was so adventurous!

Good luck with the secret santa. I always got a bag of crap for mine which I usually saved, wrapped up and sent someone back the following year

My DS#2 has his driving test on Thursday so we're all biting our nails hoping it won't get cancelled due to bad weather.....

lilibet, if you can check whether the mystery gf's parents know about the gift that might put your mind a little at rest. I'd be inclined to return it though - £20 is far too much, and what kind of romantic gift is that?! Mind you, it would buy a LOT of Dairy Milk

Scan this afternoon. Am very jumpy!

How many weeks are you Ermintrude?, I ws sorry to read that the MS was back with a vengence

mornin' all

well, that's one very ugly red brick and shiny black wood fireplace transfomed into a marginally less ugly white limestone coloured one. Phew! Kitchen next

jj good luck with the GOSH - I am sorry I seem to have missed what this means though?

lilibet lovely to have you back but my you have been in the wars you poor thing. I really hope that's all your bad luck over with now and that you can take the time you need to grieve a bit and get your head round it all.

jw speaking of matters perfume (which I see you were last night) I saw an ad recently for a new fancy designer perfume called Amber. Think it cost about £60. Wanted to put it on my list to santa claus but I have googled and can't find it anywhere. Don't suppose you have ever heard of it?

oh and lilibet perhaps your DS's new gf is a scheming little madam and this £20 is her way of making sure he knows he is expected to got her something relatively flashy also? If so perhaps returning it to the parents would be a good idea

I may be doing the girl a terrible injustice but you know what some kids can be like

lilibet the first day back was horrible, today isn't too bad.

I don't know if y'all remember, but just before I went off sick I had a bit of a row with my co-worker, mostly because I wasn't taking every little piece of advice she offered me regarding the pregnancy? Well, being the mature woman that I am, I came back to work, ready to ignore said row. Her? She's barely spoken two words to me, and those words have all been work related. And she claimed we were best mates not 2 months ago! Apparently you can only be best mates with her if you agree with everything she says.

No great loss, really. I cannot wait to get out of here for my maternity leave, I was ready to start looking for a new job when I became pregnant, so really just counting the days now!

I'm 12+4, Lilibet. And yes, still sicky! It's never left me for a moment, just gone up and down in severity and in actual puking action! I had to have a molar extracted last week and as well as worrying about all the horrid pushing and pulling I was wondering what on earth I'd do if I needed to hurl - projectile vomit all over the assistant. Fortunately I didnt...

Morning all (I'm posting this now while it is still morning)

Lilibet £20!!!! I would advise him to stay sweet with this girl she obviously comes from money. Ben has told me he has 3 girl friends which is a big change from last term when the boys and girls did not speak to each other at all. I hope he isn't planning on presents for them I haven't even got his Christmas cards yet.

All is well here Oliver slept from 9:30 to 3:30 this morning, unfortunately (well it was lovely to see her) we had a a friend to stay so we spent the evening talking rather than catching up on the old zzzzzzz's

I have to go back to the hospital tomorrow about my boob, I think they will have to stick the needle in it aging for more draining as I still have a lump. I'm not looking forward to that at all.

mrsb GOSH is great ormond st hospital...Iris is there today.

Will look at 'Amber' for you

oh of course I remember now jw
and thanks!

mornin' hedegig eek the needle in the boob sounds horrible - I wouldn't be able to look.

MrB i didn't look last time tbh I was too busy trying not to swear. they numb the outside with local bit it only works so far, but better than a hospital admission for a general I suppose. Top MMR post on the other thread by the way
It is the school nativity this afternoon Benj is a camel? not sure where they fit in the story.
Tee what a lovely co-worker you have at least the advice has stopped.

didn't the wise men arrive at the scene on camels? or leading camels? I'm sure camels were in there somewhere.

ta re post hedgepig I knew it would get the reaction it did but I couldn't resist. People are so funny about the concept of risk -its so subjective.

OMG, someone link me to MrsB's MMR response, please? I am avoiding the whole thread like the plague!

hedgepig oh yeah, no more advice, but was given the third degree today wondering why I had an antenatal appointment today and next week, as if it is any of her business. She has had high risk pregnancy, mostly due to her own making and can't believe I would be willing to go see the doctor so much! Whack!

oooh do tell tee what did she do to make her pg high risk? I found my work colleagues unbearable when pg.

It wasn't an MMR thread tee it was a thread where the OP had come on to ask whether she was legally obliged to see a midwife as she didn't want to. I think its called "do I have to see a midwife?" While the replies acknowledged that she was not obliged to do so they heaped a whole lot of opprobrium on her for taking such a risk with her baby's life. It made me question whether someone who refuses antenatal care (but who has no obvious problems) is taking a bigger risk that someone who refuses to get their child vaccinated against a potentially killer disease because of some crank research and opinions. I got told I was being inflammatory and that it was two very different scenarios. I couldn't disagree more.

Obviously I wasn't suggesting its a good idea to forego antenatal care but my opinion is that the other scenario is potentially higher risk.

hahahahahahah@mrsb Lovin' it! Always love a good fight and it makes a change that I haven't started it

I'm looking through these smellies for Amber and the only one I can see is Marc Jacobs. And it's not in stock if it is that one...

s'funny how everyone has always got a pregnancy/birth story that's usually full of gore/useless advice. I think it's usually a first timer that has to regale everyone with a blow by blow account of what happened. Just ignore her tee. Think she likes the sound of her own voice too much. Next time she pipes up just saying something like 'thanks for your advice but I shan't be doing that'.

I have to press the delete button on replies I have written to threads all the time jw as I know I will cause a row!

Marc Jacobs? rings a bell - I knew it was a designer's perfume rather than a celebrity one or one by estee lauder or someone IYSWIM.

Does it retail around the sixty quid mark? if so that'll be it.

Tee the problem with advice from pregnant women is that all pregnancies/births/babies are individual.

I had three very different births, by the third you would think I had it sorted . In fact when I was having ds2 the midwife told me that the baby would be born within 5 minutes and my thought was "oh no it won't, I've had babies before and it gets much worse than this". About 3 minutes later there he was . This was from the midwife who had told me when I was 37 weeks that he would weigh 7lb 11, and when he was born he was 7lb 12 Apparently, it's a bit of a party trick from her, she was a wise old bird.

Best advice I can give anyone is to go with your instincts and ask on mumsnet

mrsb - do you have photos of your transformed fireplace.

I got a bottle of Chablis in the secret Santa That is one present that won't be being recycled

totally agree lilibet

wish I had your mw tho' when I was being wrongly told D was going to be huge!

I will have photos once I have given it a final coat of the Special Paint I wonder if we have one of the monstrosity it was before - don't get me wrong its still bad but about a million times less bad than it was

mrsb that is an excellent and eloquent post on the other thread!

Having read it all me thinks that something strange is going on if it's not a troll. I think it may have been a man trying to persuade hsi wife of something and it hasn't worked.

Just been reading the thread about the woman who has had a baby at 70.

why on earth would you want a baby at 70??

Bottle of Chablis for a fiver? Obviously not a premier cru!

mrsb Oh man, what didn't she do? She drank. She smoked. She ignored all doctor advice. She is so very lucky she has 4 reasonably healthy kids. From 3 different fathers. And I am not sure she knows who father #2 is, because she never mentions him.

And I think I love you for that response. Will you marry me?

lilibet that is so true. And I told her that. That was part of what the row was about. She was going on and on how they would do this and that and the other at my first appointment and I said to her 'no, they probably won'.' 'Yes, they will, they always did for me!!' To which I replied 'C, you've never in your life had a planned pregnancy. I am totally different from you.'

And the only part she was right about was that they did an early scan.

All this chatting while I was away! Must check out MrsB's provocative post. And JW, I'm sure M&S or someone equally respectable were doing a nearly half price on a chablis so let's hope Lilibet's is that one!

Meanwhile, I had my scan this afternoon and although the babe remained swimming face down to inconvenience the sonographer, all was well and once she'd managed to measure the nuchal fold my old lady Downs rating (wonder what it would be for a 70 year old!)went down from 1 in 66 to 1 in 322 - 0.3% - which sounds good odds to me. Low risk, nobody advising I do any other tests, docs happy to sign me over to midwife-led care, hurrah. Now to start telling people. Kids first - then it will be all round the neighbourhood like wildfire - then phone the parents and simultaneously text all my sisters. Reckon I'll spend the evening with my feet up taking calls.