PIP when working and looking after small child

[Lakes24]

Hi

so I know loads of people who get pip for mental health who have children but I applied as I have wrist weakness, underactive thyroid, b12 deficiency, reflux & ADHD

so I have to have medication every day and am exhausted I still look after my child but it is a struggle I. Explained that I’m anxious but still to work as I think staying in would make me worse don’t cook big meals as my partner does as my wrist gets worse and I’m easily distracted. My partner manages budget. I only drove to shopping with my partner and only place I go on my own is park as it’s local and once every few months I’ll go my friends house on my own. I said I can wash and wash my son but my partner runs bath for us as I’m just so tired by evening and my partner reminds me to take medication as if not I’m sick I’ll forget

I wasn’t awarded it so how do people get it, they was obsessing on me working and driving

I’d work full time but I can’t as by the 3rd day im
making lots of mistakes and exhausted

You two have thoroughly derailed the thread and embarrassed yourselves... congratulations. 👏👏

Back to the subject, and yet again... do you actually know what the descriptors are? Because not one of them is "can you look after children", "do you have a job" or "are you able to drive". Given that is the case it's relatively easy to see why you can't understand it.

I can look after my (grand)children, I can drive (many miles if required), and until last month I could work (I have retired after paying taxes for decades). I can also volunteer, cook a meal, and lots of other things. What I cannot do is walk more than about 20 feet without stopping, stand for more than a few minutes without losing all feeling in my feet and legs, or spend a moment without being in pain. Amongst other things. Does that make it easier to understand?

So people with disabilities are not "normal functional humans"?

And ADHD, like many conditions, exists on a spectrum. So yes, for some people ADHD does prevent or make more difficult everyday activities. And quite can be "serious". Not everyone with ADHD gets PIP or qualifies for it, just as not everyone with ANY condition would be eligible.

I have just filled out my form for adult disability payment, I’m in Scotland, which has changed from PIP. I’m not holding out any hope of getting it. The whole system needs to be looked at. I know quite a few folk who are playing the system, they put in on a good show to the professionals, saying they can’t leave the house, can’t do this and that, but their social media accounts tell a different story.
As I was saying, I don’t hold out much hope in getting it, like the other lady with cancer says she was turned down. I have stage 4 cancer too. I’m all clear and praying it stays like that.
I have had to cut my working hours to 16 per week, on light duties. I’m absolutely knackered. I have had 3 major operations in the last year. Another one to follow.
My mobility isn’t the greatest, I have to do housework in stages. My partner has to work every hour going to support me and the kids. I could just cry writing this.

I always wonder why so many people claim they know people fiddling the system but don't report them?

TigerRag · Today 12:39
Maybe they have

What a strange thing to say. Long covid is devasting and disabling for some . There isn't an illness hierarchy

Taxpayers’ money to fund people’s takeaways and ’impulsive spending’. Oh, dear.

@ladyamy

Taxpayers’ money to fund people’s takeaways and ’impulsive spending’. Oh, dear.

You do understand that PIP claimants are often also taxpayers?

As a taxpayer for the last 40+ years, and also a PIP claimant due to disability, I can't always bear the pain of cooking so I buy a takeaway. What's your excuse?

These are disabilities. diagnosed and supported by doctors and healthcare professionals, and tested by staggeringly intensive scrutiny by DWP assessors. Maybe a few frauds get through. A few get through in every walk of life - work, politics, and posters here. But it isn't your place to judge an entire group of people based on nothing but your own prejudice. I'm sure that throughout your life you have had plenty of taxpayers money, but it's amazing how often people forget just how much "taxpayers money" they have spent when lecturing others on what they shouldn't have.

Bear in mind that some of the people you know claiming PIP will be exaggerating or playing the system, we've all known someone like that. Doesn't seem from what you say as if you would be entitled to it, but maybe seek help from Citzens Advice.

Yes

Ridiculous isn't it? Meanwhile, some of us have had to take out loans (and use pip to repay said loan) because we need expensive equipment.

I have Multiple Sclerosis, affects me both physically and neurologically. I work full time often I cant afford takeaways when my body isn’t up to cooking. I guess the post just hit a nerve with me. I shouldn’t have said it, I’m sorry.

Why would these things be funded by the taxpayer?! You do understand that many people with ADHD work full time and my examples were in reply to a failure to see how ADHD could cost a sufferer extra money. I have ADHD. I also work I do not claim anything. Having ADHD does have a significant impact on my finances and it is common for a sufferer to struggle with money management and all of the above examples. I at no point stated that all of this is tax payer funded!

Plus some people with ADHD might struggle to remember to eat, to shop for food etc. Some might resort to ordering takeout food as a result.

ladyamy · Today 16:01
You don’t need to apologise to anyone. The whole system can be frustrating.

Thank you - that's a quality post 😀We all need to remember that until we have walked in someone elses shoes, we can't know what they experience. You will know better than anyone that MS can have almost no obvious signs but still be there. That's the problem with all the "we all know someone gaming the system" stance - yes some people are but it really isn't as significant a problem as people think. A bigger problem is people who can't get the help they deserve. An even bigger problem is all the people who can avoid paying taxes by one means or another so they don't have to spend their wealth supporting the less able or fortunate.

But what do the DWP say about PIP fraud? After all "we all know someone gaming the system" don't we? Well they say it is so insignificant that it amounts to 0%!!! https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/zero-percent-fraud-rate-for-pip,-dwp-figures-show These are the people who hunt down the fraudsters, and they can't find them!!!

Meanwhile people continue to die because the DWP denies them benefits...
https://www.mariecurie.org.uk/media/press-releases/dwp-drags-heels-and-condemns-2000-people-in-six-months-to-die-without-benefits/265697
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/pip-waiting-time-deaths-disabled-people-die-disability-benefits-personal-independence-payment-dwp-a8727296.html
https://news.sky.com/story/benefits-health-assessment-system-contributed-to-death-of-claimants-report-finds-12856983
... and there are plenty more stories where those came from.

But I guess it's so much easier for anonymous keyboard warriors to kick the disabled when they are down than to deal with actual facts.

16% isn't has high as it used to be.
When was DWA.. It was much higher... more like 40%. To 50%.
I used to help people fill in forms.
So l was working and on DWA.

@Moier

What's DWA?

@ladyamy
those with ADHD aren’t getting money to fund their impulse spending they are getting money because they are disabled and then they are misusing that money because they can’t control their money due to their disability, and don’t then have money to spend on what they need