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PIP when working and looking after small child

121 replies

Lakes24 · 24/10/2024 13:51

Hi

so I know loads of people who get pip for mental health who have children but I applied as I have wrist weakness, underactive thyroid, b12 deficiency, reflux & ADHD

so I have to have medication every day and am exhausted I still look after my child but it is a struggle I. Explained that I’m anxious but still to work as I think staying in would make me worse don’t cook big meals as my partner does as my wrist gets worse and I’m easily distracted. My partner manages budget. I only drove to shopping with my partner and only place I go on my own is park as it’s local and once every few months I’ll go my friends house on my own. I said I can wash and wash my son but my partner runs bath for us as I’m just so tired by evening and my partner reminds me to take medication as if not I’m sick I’ll forget

I wasn’t awarded it so how do people get it, they was obsessing on me working and driving

I’d work full time but I can’t as by the 3rd day im
making lots of mistakes and exhausted

OP posts:
mitogoshigg · 24/10/2024 15:48

I have all but one of those and no, it's not the kind of things that pip is for because it's about extra costs of disabilities. I'm not saying life isn't hard but the evidence needs to illustrate the extra help you require day to day

Lifelessordinary1 · 24/10/2024 16:32

In order to qualify for PIP you need to demonstrate how you meet their criteria - nothing else matters. From the way you have worded your comment I doubt you would qualify but that does not mean that you don't. Have you had advice from someone on how to fill the form in? Try citizens advice.

I drive and get high mobility because I cannot walk far safely and I got it for years whilst working. Unfortunately it does come down to how you fill the form in.

Octavia64 · 24/10/2024 16:38

People get it by:

Being significantly more disabled than you

Sending lots and lots of evidence that they are disabled and about the impact of their condition

Meeting the criteria.

There are very specific things they look at. You need to focus on those things.

BTW my DD has a thyroid problem and while meds have helped it is not resolved. She still has hair falling out and nails snapping even at "optimal" levels.

Wolfpa · 24/10/2024 17:00

3 of the things you have mentioned can be controlled with medication, when was your last blood test and review?

what is the cause of your weak wrists? There are several strengthening exercises that you can do to help.

is your adhd diagnosed? How does it stop you from working?

It sounds as if you currently need a general medical review not PIP.

thoughtaboutitsndforgot · 24/10/2024 20:55

@EmmaMaria

I don't need an explanation of how PIP works nor the criteria. I am not thick! I was simply responding to another poster. Thanks

thoughtaboutitsndforgot · 24/10/2024 20:56

@daisypond
Im so sorry to read what you wrote. I really don't know what to say as don't know anything about you co diction. But just wanted to say to you to stay strong. Xx

thoughtaboutitsndforgot · 24/10/2024 20:57

thoughtaboutitsndforgot · 24/10/2024 20:56

@daisypond
Im so sorry to read what you wrote. I really don't know what to say as don't know anything about you co diction. But just wanted to say to you to stay strong. Xx

*condition

talentedcharisma · 24/10/2024 21:27

I've just applied for PIP for my 16 year old who has diagnosed agoraphobia, anxiety and depression and was on DLA and now requires a move to PIP assessment.

My DD has a history of self harm, I have no sharp knives on my kitchen whatsoever and have to carve up a roast each week with a blunt paring knife i keep in a cupboard.

I've had to put on the form that she can't cook unsupervised because it's true, if she was allowed access to a 'normal' kitchen she would easily hurt herself.

Major issues with panic attacks and being unable to function and me having to be available at the drop of a hat to support her and regulate her whenever something mildly challenging happens.

I've resigned myself that she won't get PIP , because so many don't and the affect on my working life ( which has been devastating on my second career - I went back to uni a few years ago and did a masters degree to do this job and now it's pretty impossible) and I'm afraid that's just how the system is.

I have ADHD and B12 deficiency myself, I've never - and would never - consider claiming pip personally.

You are functioning. Appreciate that, please, I wish my DD was.

EmmaMaria · 25/10/2024 11:34

thoughtaboutitsndforgot · 24/10/2024 20:55

@EmmaMaria

I don't need an explanation of how PIP works nor the criteria. I am not thick! I was simply responding to another poster. Thanks

Wow that is really rude. You said "But please excuse my language but WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK! How the hell are you not entitled to PIP. My friends gets it because she has long Covid which make of that what you will !
The system is a joke ! I'm disgusted on your behalf! X" so you clearly did need to be told how PIP works and the criteria since you asked why they are not entitled to PIP. They are not entitled because PIP is not related to diagnosis, but to the impact a health condition has on the ability to unertake day to day activities. I at no point suggested you are thick - lots of people don't know how PIP works, as demonstrated by some of the posts on this thread.

EmmaMaria · 25/10/2024 11:44

@talentedcharisma Don't assume your daughter won't get PIP. Although I do understand how hard it can be, remember that the stories we tend to hear most about are the people who don't get it, not the ones who do. There's a really interesting list that describes the success rates for typed by conditions, although obviously the condition isn't what PIP is about - https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/success-rates
Good luck with the application.

Success rates for PIP claims by condition

Get the benefits you're entitled to: help with personal independence payment (PIP), universal credit (UC), employment and support allowance (ESA),disability living allowance (DLA). Claims, assessments, reviews, appeals.

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/success-rates

Hellskitchen24 · 25/10/2024 12:21

Lakes24 · 24/10/2024 13:51

Hi

so I know loads of people who get pip for mental health who have children but I applied as I have wrist weakness, underactive thyroid, b12 deficiency, reflux & ADHD

so I have to have medication every day and am exhausted I still look after my child but it is a struggle I. Explained that I’m anxious but still to work as I think staying in would make me worse don’t cook big meals as my partner does as my wrist gets worse and I’m easily distracted. My partner manages budget. I only drove to shopping with my partner and only place I go on my own is park as it’s local and once every few months I’ll go my friends house on my own. I said I can wash and wash my son but my partner runs bath for us as I’m just so tired by evening and my partner reminds me to take medication as if not I’m sick I’ll forget

I wasn’t awarded it so how do people get it, they was obsessing on me working and driving

I’d work full time but I can’t as by the 3rd day im
making lots of mistakes and exhausted

I don’t wish to be rude, but none of those things make you severely disabled or qualify you for PIP. All of those things are treatable with medication. You can work, drive, have children and look after said children, hence you can function in a normal way. I am not entirely clear what part you believe entitles you to PIP payments?

Glassesgettingthicker · 25/10/2024 12:27

When I applied for PIP I was pregnant and had 2 small dc. They also asked a lot about driving (I can’t drive but they wanted to know had I ever had lessons etc).
I don’t really leave the house much as unable to and I can’t speak due to my autism. I have ME as well so need help with day to day tasks and I can’t cook at all or prepare meals. I had to go to an assessment it was all booked and on the day I just couldnt make it it was rebooked and same again and I had to have a home visit in the end

forgot to add my dh hasn’t worked for 5 years due to being my carer so I think that helped them to see how severe my difficulties are

Brainded · 25/10/2024 12:28

Hellskitchen24 · 25/10/2024 12:21

I don’t wish to be rude, but none of those things make you severely disabled or qualify you for PIP. All of those things are treatable with medication. You can work, drive, have children and look after said children, hence you can function in a normal way. I am not entirely clear what part you believe entitles you to PIP payments?

Quite! I have reread the OP and the more I think about this more I think we are all exhausted. Show me a parent who’s not. But yeah @Lakes24 unfortunately those issues don’t warrant PIP.

Hellskitchen24 · 25/10/2024 13:32

Glassesgettingthicker · 25/10/2024 12:27

When I applied for PIP I was pregnant and had 2 small dc. They also asked a lot about driving (I can’t drive but they wanted to know had I ever had lessons etc).
I don’t really leave the house much as unable to and I can’t speak due to my autism. I have ME as well so need help with day to day tasks and I can’t cook at all or prepare meals. I had to go to an assessment it was all booked and on the day I just couldnt make it it was rebooked and same again and I had to have a home visit in the end

forgot to add my dh hasn’t worked for 5 years due to being my carer so I think that helped them to see how severe my difficulties are

Edited

How does that dynamic work with your husband if you don’t mind me asking? Presumably he does all care for the children as well as yourself if you can’t leave the house, can’t cook, can’t speak. Does this not really impact your children?

SkeletonTree · 25/10/2024 13:50

daisypond · 24/10/2024 15:33

It’s because I don’t fit the criteria for enough points for PIP. Eventually, when I reach the terminal stage, I will.

Could you appeal?

talentedcharisma · 25/10/2024 14:27

EmmaMaria · 25/10/2024 11:44

@talentedcharisma Don't assume your daughter won't get PIP. Although I do understand how hard it can be, remember that the stories we tend to hear most about are the people who don't get it, not the ones who do. There's a really interesting list that describes the success rates for typed by conditions, although obviously the condition isn't what PIP is about - https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/success-rates
Good luck with the application.

Thank you, I really appreciate that 🌷

ladyamy · 25/10/2024 15:13

Glassesgettingthicker · 25/10/2024 12:27

When I applied for PIP I was pregnant and had 2 small dc. They also asked a lot about driving (I can’t drive but they wanted to know had I ever had lessons etc).
I don’t really leave the house much as unable to and I can’t speak due to my autism. I have ME as well so need help with day to day tasks and I can’t cook at all or prepare meals. I had to go to an assessment it was all booked and on the day I just couldnt make it it was rebooked and same again and I had to have a home visit in the end

forgot to add my dh hasn’t worked for 5 years due to being my carer so I think that helped them to see how severe my difficulties are

Edited

Out of curiosity, what did the home visit look like if you’re non verbal?

Glassesgettingthicker · 25/10/2024 15:36

ladyamy · 25/10/2024 15:13

Out of curiosity, what did the home visit look like if you’re non verbal?

It was quite honestly a nightmare for me that took days to recover from. My dh was there and was allowed to answer a lot for me about certain things and I wrote down some answers. It was horrible though and took ages (the assessor was lovely but I found it traumatic). I’d say 98% of the time I can’t say a word so I literally was able to confirm name and dob and confirm my dh could speak on my behalf. It was extremely difficult for me

Glassesgettingthicker · 25/10/2024 15:40

Hellskitchen24 · 25/10/2024 13:32

How does that dynamic work with your husband if you don’t mind me asking? Presumably he does all care for the children as well as yourself if you can’t leave the house, can’t cook, can’t speak. Does this not really impact your children?

So far they seem ok, we sent them all to nursery for 2/3 days a week from a young age as well so they were surrounded by language as obviously home is quite quiet. For things like bedtime stories we watch book reading on YouTube and sit together then dh will read an actual book too so we try to have ‘normal’ moments but in a different way if that makes sense. Some days I can manage a few practiced sentences most days I don’t speak
at all. I have other support too so dh doesn’t have a huge burden on him all the time and he needs to get out with friends etc

Brainded · 25/10/2024 15:51

@Glassesgettingthicker how do you communicate with them and your dh? Do you do sign language or anything?

thoughtaboutitsndforgot · 25/10/2024 15:51

@EmmaMaria

What I said was a retorical question I didn't actually need an explanation from you as to why. 😂

Glassesgettingthicker · 25/10/2024 16:23

Brainded · 25/10/2024 15:51

@Glassesgettingthicker how do you communicate with them and your dh? Do you do sign language or anything?

I text dh most things. With the dc we use some signing always have alongside talking just because of my difficulties we thought it would be a good idea to do

EmmaMaria · 25/10/2024 16:48

thoughtaboutitsndforgot · 25/10/2024 15:51

@EmmaMaria

What I said was a retorical question I didn't actually need an explanation from you as to why. 😂

Then perhaps you should have stated that because it looked like a statement / question? I am not a mind reader. Taken solely on what you wrote, it appeared to be another incorrect understanding of PIP. I am not the only person reading these threads, and I was not aware that you were responsible for deciding who can and can't post responses and what those responses should be. If you expect people not to respond to your posts, perhaps not posting would be the way to go? Now I won't respond again because it is clear that your "rhetorical" comment has been clarified, and you have confirmed that despite appearing otherwise, you know that PIP is not available based solely on a diagnosis. And I'll decide for myself what posts I respond to. Thanks.

ladyamy · 25/10/2024 17:14

AncientAndModern1 · 24/10/2024 15:37

Good grief! If everyone with ADHD got PIP the entire system would collapse overnight!

And I struggle to understand how ADHD causes extra expenses 🤷🏻‍♀️

Miley1967 · 25/10/2024 17:20

SquirrelSoShiny · 24/10/2024 14:58

Nothing you are describing would entitle you to PIP and I'm a bit shocked that you think it would. What exactly do people think PIP is for? It's not just free money.

Those 'loads of people' you know getting it will either have a condition OR have lied their ass off.

This. The system needs a complete overhaul asap.
I had someone I know wanting to put i a claim the other day on the basis of not being able to leave the house yet at the same time had accepted a job serving takeaway food at festivals etc .