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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 19/10/2022 19:24

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/topics/nausea-vomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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Dinosaurus86 · 07/05/2023 19:11

Hi everyone, I’m about 8 weeks pregnant with dc2, due approx 15 December. Last pregnancy I was really lucky. I had some pretty intense nausea for a couple of weeks (peaking week 9) but for the most part it was manageable and no actual vomiting. This time around, the nausea has been building for the last week or two and vomiting has started to the point I’m struggling even to keep down water and ice lollies. I was wondering at what point you ask your GP for help and what the possible side effects of the medicines are (esp for the baby). I didn’t have to worry about all this last time, but now I’ve got a toddler it’s even harder without being sick all the time.

Dinosaurus86 · 07/05/2023 19:15

Oh and also, how do you know if gaviscon will help? I’ve never had acid reflux before so I’m not sure what it feels like. I do have to suppress a sick feeling constantly (not always successful!).

LucindaE · 07/05/2023 21:39

Dinosaurus86 Welcome. Sorry you are suffering. Over more than twelve years of these threads, nobody that I have ever heard of of has had an abnormalities as a result of meds, and many on here have been on a cocktail of them. Doctors have to balance the tiny risks ofthe anti emetics against the very real risks of prolonged dehydration. Do ask for meds. Acid indigestion is a burning feeling. It can make nausea and vomiting much worse. Have you got family'friends who could help look after LO some of the time? Rest is important, but difficult with a toddler. I will add your due date. As it's your first Hyperemesis pregnancy, here's my normal spiel, which I hope helps. Most sufferers find that they improve a lot at some point between weeks 14 and 20, or sometimes later. Even those who are unlucky enough to suffer throughout generally are not as ill later on as they are in the first part. A good anti acid can make a surprising difference to the sickness. Kesostix are worth buying online or from a chemists, as while they aren't they best test of dehydration, hospitals take them seriously.When reporting on the vomiting to doctors, remember to emphasize the number of heaves in each vomiting session, as doctors tend to count these as 'vomits' and this can lead to their underestimating the severity of your symptoms. Besides drinking through a straw, here are some drinks that have helped others: full sugar flat coke (if you don't find it too acid), ice lollies, frozen smoothie ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, Vimto, Lucozade, apple juice, Ribina, Dr Pepper, soda water, Elderflower water, tonic water, ice cubes, Iron Bru, lemonade, lemon squash, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), fizzy orange (M and S has been recommende), 7Up, isotonic drinks, sips of strawberry orchocolate milkshake (maybe soya), fizzy water, apple juice, Robinson's fruit drinks, Rubicon sparkling mango drink , raspberry Lucozade sport and frozen ice cubes of flat Lucozade sport. Also, pink lemonade , cloudy lemonade and Sprite. Frozen apple juice has been recommended. Foods of a sort include tinned fruit, cuppa soup, nibbles of crisps and chips, cheap ice cream, Scotch pancakes, bagels and biscuits, potato smileys, minature salty Yorkshire Puddings and dry cereeal.
InvisibleDreamer The excess saliva is foul Some carry a small bowl about with them. Some suck sweets, but that can sometimes increase it. It does seem to decrease as timegoes on,thank goodness.
Great advice from QueenBee22 and from gg9320 about weaning off meds for Rockster and northernmam about cutting down on meds.
Apologies for anyone rudely overlooked.

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LucindaE · 07/05/2023 21:48

Dinosaurus86 Added your date. I meant to add that though I was told all that was
available was Gaviscon, and I swallowed a lotof it, I never found it helped more than temporarily. I think the tablets are better than the liquid,and I believe Omprazole is more effective.

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OnNaturesCourse · 08/05/2023 15:48

Needing a hand hold today.

After a really good day yesterday with nausea controlled reasonably with anti sickness and omperzole... Today its doubled up its efforts 😭

I have a horrid taste in my mouth that I can't shift and its playing on my gag reflex. I've been nauseated since I dared to eat this morning and I have so little energy that brushing my hair knackered me. I've barely moved off the sofa. Kids are still in their PJs and I've done nothing but throw snacks at them.

I feel terrible.

Buttons86 · 08/05/2023 19:13

@OnNaturesCourse sounds grim, try and rest as much as you can which know must be hard when have kids! Snacks and screens and is there anyone can help out?

I am on anti-sickness and have had some days/hours m better than others…just finding it really hard to manage the uncertainty of how going to feel and function in work.

Just wanted to check (first timer) does the food aversion remain for most when on the anti-sickness…I’m basically living off smoothies, ice lollies and potato based foods (potato waffles mainly). Even looking/smelling at some foods is causing me to gag/be sick. I am taking vitamins but worried I’m not getting enough nutrients in me.

LucindaE · 08/05/2023 20:05

OnNaturesCourse Sympathies. A good day is often a sign of more to come. I used to suck old fashioned barley sugars or those travel sweets you can buy in chemists for the terrible taste. I don't expect the LO's care that much about the snacks and pyjames once in a while.

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LucindaE · 09/05/2023 20:55

Buttons86 Sorry; missed you yesterday; cross posted, I think. I remember
most of the aversions going when I got a lot better, but I think it varies between individauals. But a general aversion to food seems to lift for most sufferers when the nausea and vomiting improves.
OnNaturesCourse I hope you have had a better day today.

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LucindaE · 09/05/2023 20:58

Buttons86 Sorry, I posted too soon. I meant to add that remaining hydrated seems to be the main thing, though mothers worryabout their miserable diets, it is amazing how babies thrive and grow normally on them.

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Dinosaurus86 · 09/05/2023 21:06

Thanks @LucindaE. I spoke to the doctor earlier and have been prescribed Promethazine, which isn’t one I’d particularly heard of but fingers crossed.

Buttons86 · 09/05/2023 21:31

Thanks for the reassurance @LucindaE !

InvisibleDreamer · 09/05/2023 22:34

Thanks to everyone who has replied to my messages sorry I’ve not been that responsive just seem to be going downhill again, the drug I’ve been on stemil ? was working but now it’s not so switched to onadestran today but no improvement yet (never worked for me before either) spoke to one of the less good GPs today who said there is nothing else they can prescribe! Have already tried cyclizine (no effect). All I’ve managed today is a couple of biscuits and some vegetable stock cubes dissolved in hot water but better than nothing. just feel so weak after a month of not eating properly. Stomach churns for hours after eating anything and getting the shivers, retching and belching too. Just wanted to moan really expecting things to get much worse this week now as the drugs don’t seem to work. Don’t know how I’m going to cope. Can’t understand why they won’t increase omazrapole am only on dose of 10 twice a day?

LilmissCa · 09/05/2023 23:40

@InvisibleDreamer
Have you tried adding in a stomach acid tablet?
Are you dehydrated / keeping an eye on your keytones? In my previous pregnancy it took 5 drips of fluid before my body came round, only then did the ondansetron work. I was too dehydrated previously.

InvisibleDreamer · 09/05/2023 23:50

@LilmissCa i haven’t tried tablets that is an idea as can’t stomach gaviscon liquid. I’ve been checking ketones every day so keeping a close eye on dehydration.

LilmissCa · 10/05/2023 09:43

@InvisibleDreamer they definitely help me. I have omeprazole once a day but I know others take it twice.

LucindaE · 10/05/2023 19:11

Dinosaurus86 Promethazine has helped a number on these threads.
Buttons86 😃
InvisibleDreamer Great advice from LilmissCa. Have they kept you on Cyclizine, as many find the combination of that with Ondansetron effective?
Waves to all.

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Seasidegirl11 · 11/05/2023 10:14

Hi all, new to this thread although have been following. 11 weeks and still vomiting several times a day with all day nausea. Tried several antiemetics, none have worked. Got ondensatron to try next, hoping that will work. I’m not sure when is the trigger for get IV fluids, hospital have said I can go in whenever I want. I don’t show ketosis as I can keep some carbs down but urine is constantly showing leukocytes and protein (no infection). I presume this is from dehydration. Drinking is worse than eating, as soon as I drink I feel/am sick. I also now have a constant pain in my stomach, presume it’s a pulled muscle or something but it’s worrying me. As are the state of my teeth! Been off work pretty much the last 6 weeks and feeling like it’s never going to end. Sorry to hear that so many other people go through this (and who have it worse). I don’t know anyone in RL with it (apart from my mum who had it) and find it’s hard to understand unless you’ve been through it: worry my boss thinks I’m being weak.

LucindaE · 11/05/2023 21:08

*Seasidegirl11" Welcome. Sorry you are suffering. As you have been followiing, I am sure you have seen my normal spiel about 'have you got kesostix, as while not the best test of dehydration, hospitals take their measurements seriously' and 'do y ou find iced lollies, full sugar flat coke and the juice of tiinned fruit any use' and 'a good anti acid can make a big difference' and also on how it improves for most sufferers at some point between 15 and 21 weeks. I hope it soon improves for you, and Ondansetron has helped many on here. Have they prescribed a laxative, as most need one with it? The boss may take that view, unfortunately, but you are protected by legislation from being descriminated against when suffering from a pregnancy related condition. Teeth can suffer. Rinsing out the mouth with water at least reduces the acidity,but I am sure you are doing that already. The stomach pain from pulled muscles can feel alarming.

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evuscha · 12/05/2023 03:19

spanglesj · 03/05/2023 22:09

Thanks for checking in with everyone Lucinda. After being sick daily wks 7-12 I had some respite this wk. As I approach wk 13 I think it is returning. Am I right in thinking there is a hormone spike wks 13-14 again? Think I’ve heard that.
also I got lazy on hydration last couple of days. Struggle to drink so it’s easy for me to avoid it. Does it make sickness worse? I’m sure I know the answer to this. 😁

I thought I remembered someone on here had a similar experience - approaching 13 weeks and suddenly feeling worse again! I had a pretty decent time around 11-12 weeks but definitely taking the turn for worse 😭 How are you doing now?
I think it wasn’t until 16 weeks in my last pregnancy when things got a bit more stable.

Seasidegirl11 · 12/05/2023 07:49

@LucindaE thanks yes I have seen all the advice and been following it which has helped me manage my food and fluid intake. However I seem to have deteriorated in the last few days, I’m now sick every 45 mins and unable to keep down water and food. Barely weeing (haven’t since yesterday) and it’s very dark now. I’ve did a ketostix yesterday and only showed traces of ketones, maybe because I have managed to eat carbs in the days before. More worried about my dehydration, going to speak to GP but not sure they will do much with ketones.

Hairstylist2023 · 12/05/2023 11:06

Hey ,

im not sure if anyone can relate to me I am around 10 weeks pregnant I have been off work for a few weeks . Started slowly I kept trying to manage my days until the nausea has got so bad I am in bed day in day out I have been to the docs twice they have prescribe me first cyclizine with no effect at all and then prochlorperazine with no help from that one either . I am drinking and eating food but I am not able to function move or smell anything in my house so I am bound to the bedroom . I have been in touch with the mid wife to keep them informed and ask them what the next stage is for me . I nw their are people way worse than me who aren’t drinking eating but I feel this is unmanageable with nothing working to stop any of my symptoms . I have tried to carry on life go down stairs or wash my hair but any task is so hard to do . I am getting really low about it and feel like how will this ever end or will anything help . I am self employed also so have applied for sick pay via the government and wonder did any one else get this ? I have asked the midwife what can I do in terms of coming into hospital to get some effective medication that will help me function and get back to work . I have everything apart from being sick but all that in it’s self if dibilatating .

if anyone can help who has been in this situation without the sickness what helped medication wise or how long did it last and did you go into hospital .
going out my mind with it thank you

Hairstylist2023 · 12/05/2023 11:11

So sorry your going through this I just posted my first post today and sounds similar to you I have been off for a few weeks tried a few medications nothing working I don’t have the sickness physically but nausea and retching at everything smell wise house wise just in bed doing nothing but trying to keep my mind occupied . I am not sure when the point is they do anything else for us ? But on here I hear a lot of people saying to push further for the meds even if we have to be admitted theirs so many mixed views I am reading and some docs don’t take it as serious just nw I am here with u x

Hairstylist2023 · 12/05/2023 12:41

Seasidegirl11 · 11/05/2023 10:14

Hi all, new to this thread although have been following. 11 weeks and still vomiting several times a day with all day nausea. Tried several antiemetics, none have worked. Got ondensatron to try next, hoping that will work. I’m not sure when is the trigger for get IV fluids, hospital have said I can go in whenever I want. I don’t show ketosis as I can keep some carbs down but urine is constantly showing leukocytes and protein (no infection). I presume this is from dehydration. Drinking is worse than eating, as soon as I drink I feel/am sick. I also now have a constant pain in my stomach, presume it’s a pulled muscle or something but it’s worrying me. As are the state of my teeth! Been off work pretty much the last 6 weeks and feeling like it’s never going to end. Sorry to hear that so many other people go through this (and who have it worse). I don’t know anyone in RL with it (apart from my mum who had it) and find it’s hard to understand unless you’ve been through it: worry my boss thinks I’m being weak.

@Seasidegirl11
hey I have replied to you further down the page but forgot to quote you

InvisibleDreamer · 12/05/2023 13:58

@Seasidegirl11 If you have high ketones you can go to A&E for an IV. The GP should also be prepared to try more than two anti sickness drugs. I ring the GP and ask to speak to the duty doctor which means a call back within the same day & then ask them to dispense the drug to my nearest pharmacy where I have someone to pick it up for me. I’m not dehydrated but been considering getting myself admitted soon (if I can) as mentally I need a break from feeling sick everyday. I’m seeing a gynae on Monday whom I’m hoping may be able to help.

Hairstylist2023 · 12/05/2023 14:31

InvisibleDreamer · 12/05/2023 13:58

@Seasidegirl11 If you have high ketones you can go to A&E for an IV. The GP should also be prepared to try more than two anti sickness drugs. I ring the GP and ask to speak to the duty doctor which means a call back within the same day & then ask them to dispense the drug to my nearest pharmacy where I have someone to pick it up for me. I’m not dehydrated but been considering getting myself admitted soon (if I can) as mentally I need a break from feeling sick everyday. I’m seeing a gynae on Monday whom I’m hoping may be able to help.

@InvisibleDreamer hey what drugs has your doctor prescribed so far for you I Am on my third domperidone and I can only take for 5 days are you not being sick but have every other symptom ?