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Due March 2023 - thread 4

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TeddyBeans · 07/10/2022 21:00

Thread 4 for the chatty bunch!

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alotoftutus · 26/10/2022 22:45

@TeddyBeans :) thank you.
I'm lucky that I've had extremely positive births and have genuinely enjoyed the experience.
My first was born in a midwife unit. I hadn't even considered a home birth because I wasn't sure if I could manage Labour or would be begging for the drugs. However I refused to leave the house for so long and my worst part of that Labour was getting in the car to get to the hospital (although by that time I was 8/9cm 😆)

With my second I knew it had to be a homebirth, mainly to avoid the car journey lol, and I didn't want to leave my son. My daughter was back to back which we didn't realise at the time until her head popped out lol.

I also have precipitous (very quick) labours so for me particularly with babies 2 and 3 if I didn't opt for a homebirth there was a high chance of a road side birth which scared me to death.

With my forth my midwife predicted a 23 minute Labour and had to prepare me for an unassisted birth as she said it was unlikely anyone would get to me in time. However she ended up being my longest birth and took 2 hours 52 (still really quick but long for me).

Home births for me have always been a no brainier. However I am really aware that they are not for everyone. I personally feel more comfortable and in control in my own home, but others are the opposite. At the end of the day birth is hard however and where ever you do it. We have little control and have to just decide where will feel the most safe I guess.

This time I'm going the complete extreme and considering an elective - mainly because I am considering getting my tubes tied and figure it would be easier if they did it whilst getting the baby out than having to go in for an op post birth at some point. I am still undecided as I've lived giving birth at home so much, but I know I can't put my body through any other pregnancy at my age now.

Dreamingof3 · 27/10/2022 10:56

Had the absolute worst nights sleep last night...awful heartburn and aching hips 😫 can't believe I'm only half way through, feel about 65 weeks pregnant 🙃 starting to get scan nerves for Monday too. I think there's a few of us with them on Monday?? Mine is super early which I'm grateful for

ChristmasJumpers · 27/10/2022 11:03

@alotoftutus I actually recoiled at the mention of home birth during my booking in apt but you've got me reconsidering!
I'm going to start doing some research. I am only 10 mins from the hospital so guessing if I do need to go in at any point it wouldn't be so bad. That's my only worry is needing a doctor midway through.
I also don't have any particularly big rooms in my house, how big are the pools? I would really like to have a water birth

Choc2022 · 27/10/2022 16:19

My scan isnt for another 2 weeks and haven't had any scans or midwife appointment since 12 weeks. Its such a long time without knowing if everything is ok! Good luck to everyone who are getting their scans soon!

LittleAcorn20 · 27/10/2022 17:50

@alotoftutus what a gem you are 💎
Thank you so so so much for all of that amazing info and sharing of personal experience.
It's a lot to work/read through and I'm just juggling dinner time right now with, yes a 2 year old (good guess haha) so she will enjoy the making loud sounds together!
I am going to screenshot it all to keep on my phone and if any more q's pop up as I am rereading your messages I'll post again.

The book is called "Why Homebirth Matters" by Natalie Meddings I think the author's name is.
I'd recommend it to anyone interested in the idea of homebirth or just anyone interested in the physiology of birth and how natural a process it is.

LittleAcorn20 · 27/10/2022 18:10

@ChristmasJumpers most of the birth pool hire local to me use this company

www.birthpoolinabox.co.uk/collections/home/products/birth-pool-in-a-box-personal-pool-with-liner?variant=15025913724991

They have a mini and a regular size and full dimensions if you scroll down the listing.

havanamama · 27/10/2022 18:50

Do any of of the non-FTMs have tips for post partum?
Did you struggle with baby blues, depression, body image? Any tips on maintaining a good relationship with your significant other in those early weeks when everything is new?

PeonyPops · 27/10/2022 19:46

havanamama · 27/10/2022 18:50

Do any of of the non-FTMs have tips for post partum?
Did you struggle with baby blues, depression, body image? Any tips on maintaining a good relationship with your significant other in those early weeks when everything is new?

Post partum I would say is very different with each baby. All three of mine have felt v different.
My first baby, it’s just a wild massive mix of emotions. There are things I found that people don’t talk about. I never had that immediate rush of love for my first baby. She was amazing! But all this that you see on TV, sometimes it doesn’t happen like that, or feel like that and it’s ok.
I had baby blues with all three, about day 5?! Just very upset, and tired. I cried over the washing up with my second baby. But it passes, I can liken it to having PMT but pretty severe lol, you just feel so overwhelmed and emotional. And sometimes it doesn’t make sense, the kings you’re upset about. You just have to go with it and let yourself feel what you’re feeling.

I personally never had PND so I can comment, however you see the midwife ALOT in the first couple of weeks and they will check. They’re lovely and will help and give advice on anything.

I also never suffered with body image because after having a massive tummy after giving birth I felt so skinny haha. I might this time though. I started off 4 stone heavier than any of my previous pregnancies. I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it, but I was already looking at slimming world so I might do that after.

muminlndn · 27/10/2022 20:52

havanamama · 27/10/2022 18:50

Do any of of the non-FTMs have tips for post partum?
Did you struggle with baby blues, depression, body image? Any tips on maintaining a good relationship with your significant other in those early weeks when everything is new?

I really recommend connecting in person/on the phone with anyone who has had a baby recently, or if you don't know anyone at all try to do NCT or a cheaper antenatal class and don't be afraid to ask to swap numbers with acquaintances.
My experience as a FTM with no friends who had babies yet was quite isolating, I powered through ok but looking back I feel a bit sad for myself 😬
Anyone who has had a baby, even a friend of a friend of a friend, will be more than willing to connect with a new/expectant mum and offer reassuring messages when you're in the newborn trenches.

There are more practical things too, like stocking your freezer with meals, pre-planning several weeks easy meals & pre-booking shopping delivery, but they strike me as less important 😊

TeddyBeans · 27/10/2022 21:14

PeonyPops · 27/10/2022 19:46

Post partum I would say is very different with each baby. All three of mine have felt v different.
My first baby, it’s just a wild massive mix of emotions. There are things I found that people don’t talk about. I never had that immediate rush of love for my first baby. She was amazing! But all this that you see on TV, sometimes it doesn’t happen like that, or feel like that and it’s ok.
I had baby blues with all three, about day 5?! Just very upset, and tired. I cried over the washing up with my second baby. But it passes, I can liken it to having PMT but pretty severe lol, you just feel so overwhelmed and emotional. And sometimes it doesn’t make sense, the kings you’re upset about. You just have to go with it and let yourself feel what you’re feeling.

I personally never had PND so I can comment, however you see the midwife ALOT in the first couple of weeks and they will check. They’re lovely and will help and give advice on anything.

I also never suffered with body image because after having a massive tummy after giving birth I felt so skinny haha. I might this time though. I started off 4 stone heavier than any of my previous pregnancies. I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it, but I was already looking at slimming world so I might do that after.

That's interesting, I only remember seeing a midwife once or twice after birth. Once DS had got back to birth weight we were signed off and that was that - straight onto the HV who I only ever saw once 🤷‍♀️

Personally I found the first few weeks very straightforward. Baby ate, baby pooped, baby slept, baby cried. I'm under no illusion that that was probably down to the fact that I was living with my mum at the time and she was, and continues to be, a wealth of knowledge when it comes to tiny humans.

I expect this time to be very different as new DP and I live in our own place but he's much more supportive than ex DP ever was so I don't think it will be a

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TeddyBeans · 27/10/2022 21:16

I hate it when mobile keyboard just disappears and I end up pushing post 🤦‍♀️

I meant to say I don't think it will be a bad experience

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Deut28 · 27/10/2022 23:11

@havanamama I was unprepared for how difficult I'd find the fourth trimester. Everyone's experience is different but how hard the physical recovery after birth (on top of hormones, sleep deprivation, and trying to figure out what you're doing) was much harder than I was expecting. It took about 6 months until I felt like myself again, physically and in terms of confidence. Try to be kind to yourself in the early weeks and months and don't expect/try to do too much.

I'd recommend 'one week in bed, one week on the sofa' to anyone (see www.dontbuyherflowers.com/motherhood/pulling-up-the-drawbridge/). No matter how you give birth you've had an organ removed (placenta) that leaves an internal wound the size of a dinner plate, not to mention either C-section scar or possibly tearing. You need time to heal.

LittleAcorn20 · 28/10/2022 06:57

@Deut28 that's a great blog!
@havanamama I think I was lucky in that it was lockdown so for me recovery was quiet and calm anyway as we couldn't have visitors or make tonnes of plans. There was a sense of ease to life during lockdown, the occasional walk when we felt like it but really not much else. I also had a very easy birth and recovery physically from labour. Perhaps channel lockdown to an extent and make sure those first few weeks are very guarded in terms of who you let in and how many plans/expectations you put on yourself. If you want to get out and about, make simple plans that can be changed or pushed back last minute.
Hubby managed to take 6 weeks off work in total when DD arrived and they were lovely. A gorgeous little bubble.
I think having an understanding of the fourth trimester and those day 3-5ish baby blues and knowing they're possibly coming is a good idea! Read up a little on it so you know it will happen and that it is very normal, you're doing fine. Make sure your partner or anyone staying/living with you at the time knows about it too, so when you're feeling a bit of despair they can kindly remind you it's all normal and it's ok. I think extreme PMT as another person put it is a very good explanation.
Ofc if you feel it is anymore serious than this or it goes on longer then there is lots of amazing support through the NHS and charities like PANDAs.
I had pre-natal depression when I was pregnant and was so well supported by various NHS teams.
In terms of relationship... For me (and many) anything intimate went out the window for a long while, months!! I breastfed and it can suppress your sex-drive a lot. Naturally any damage caused in labour too very much puts you off for a long while! I remember getting quite upset a few months in wondering if I was somehow 'broken' and would never get it back again.
Then, some people I know have babies 11 months apart... So... It's obviously not the same for everyone!
You'll find your evenings are no longer your own as baby is awake with you all evening, which was weird. I sort of imagined putting baby down at 7pm and then chilling on the sofa together watching TV... But that's just not a reality with a newborn, they have no circadian rhythm worked out, which I had no idea of. That was a shock. It took us A LOT of months to get our evenings back, maybe close to 1 year. She's 2 now and still isn't asleep much before 9pm.
BUT, you have just created the most beautiful little thing together, you become stronger as a team and you really work together and look after one another. The days and nights are long but you're both in it together and you're marvelling at every little thing your tiny new bundle does together. It's the most specials/chaotic/crazy thing to share as a couple. For me, having a baby did nothing but strengthen our relationship.

havanamama · 28/10/2022 09:14

Thank you all for sharing ❤️

CristinaNov182 · 28/10/2022 09:30

@LittleAcorn20 it must still be difficult for you if DD only goes to sleep at 9pm

Ive followed this when my DD was born

www.goodreads.com/book/show/53611.The_No_Cry_Sleep_Solution?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=Mo527NM0xs&rank=2

I’ll have to read it again cause I only remember the basics. If you want a good night sleep for baby and onwards toddler etc it’s very important to have a sleep routine established from the start. There is a pattern by age.

you can do that in the first 2 months or thereabouts, but I had noise around and bright light during the day, and quiet and dark at night, 3 daily naps during the day (spaced out more or less like the book says), then 2 then 1 around 1 year old till 3. And always went to bed at 7pm. We still do and she’s almost 4 now.

ofc she didn’t want to do as a said, but I knew for ex that movement made her sleep, so if she didn’t want to sleep in bed during the day, I’d pop her in the pram and walk with her. In 10min she she’d be asleep. Otherwise she’d sleep with a boob. Made it very difficult being stuck in bed 3 times a day then from 7, many many hours in bed for me. Had my iPad and lots of books…

sleep or not, we’d be in bed. Boob or walk during the day - best sleep aids. I preferred walking cause I could then go to a cafe and relax.

it has paid off immensely, me and my DH take her in turns to bed at night, we read 2 books (it was only one book from 1 until 2), then lights off. Sometimes she wants to chat a lot, tells me she is not sleepy etc. I’m firm and tell her she doesn’t have to sleep, just be quiet and lie down. If not I’ll walk out (we stay with her till she’s asleep). That works. Most of the time she’s asleep in 30mins (books and all), sometimes 1h. We go to bed before 7pm if we can.

it has made a huge difference to us, to “recover” and get some adult time and relax.

if i only had 1-2h to myself I’d be so much more stressed out, but now it’s very easy.

I can’t emphasise enough how hard is in the beginning, I’ve seen couples in my family who tried to maintain their social life, with a tiny baby, baby got no schedule at all, apart from trying to go to bed at a good time (sometimes not even that if they were out), and they struggled for years (no long unbroken sleep for child at night, waking up at random times, etc) and still do, 4 years on. But they are doing the same with the second baby :)) they decided they can go without good sleep.

I couldn’t and while the first year is very hard, it does get progressively easier from 2 months then to 6 months, 8 and 1 year. And it’s very easy now.

hope it helps someone as sleep issues are very common, but if you know there is a pattern and try to follow it, makes it easier.

CristinaNov182 · 28/10/2022 09:37

I forgot to say she sleeps for 12 hours now, 11 sometimes, and during the summer when it’s hot she wakes up sometimes to ask for water. She still comes in the morning to our bed and I expect that to continue for a while.

she has followed the sleep patterns for her age thoughout (4h at 4 months etc), with the normal sleep regressions ofc (at 4 months, roughly 8, roughly 1). I can’t remember when she started doing 12, but think at 1 year it was 7-8, woke up, then 5h again.

TeddyBeans · 28/10/2022 11:10

Just in case anyone needs a teeny tiny cot, I found one on Mamas and Papas that's the smallest I've ever seen! We're going to put it at the end of our bed so needed something a bit narrower. DD will go in with DS after a year or so, so don't need a cot that will last forever

www.mamasandpapas.com/products/petite-white-cot-s-mat-bundl-cbpe02w01

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Cats23 · 28/10/2022 11:29

TeddyBeans · 26/10/2022 18:01

I'll be having a hospital birth. I was induced last time and fully expect to end up with the same again. Slightly concerned a PP mentioned being on aspirin for baby's weight as DS was 8lbs 4oz and I don't want a bigger baby!! Been on aspirin since 8 weeks or so for my previous preeclampsia 😕

Congratulations on all the scans and good luck to all the upcoming scanees! Do let me know if I need to update any hearts on the due date list! I keep missing comments 🙈

Also on asprin since 8 weeks (Dc 1 was born at 27 weeks due to pre-eclampsia) Ive had no issue with my last 3, pregnancies but always considered as high risk .
I'd be too scared to have a home birth or birth in MLU- my first birth was a c-sect, last 3 births have been vbac all term , Im a bit nervous about this birth..., Dc 2 was born within 3.5hrs start to finish , dc 3 was 1hr start to finish dc 4, 10hrs!
We also live 1hr 10mins from hospital.
Good luck to all with scan this week, mine is 10th November, I cant wait!
My older dc want to do a ' Cake reveal' so ordered cupcakes and the pink or blue icing will be added in to cakes on day !

muminlndn · 28/10/2022 20:07

I have two podcast recommendations I've been really enjoying:
Midwife Pip (very informative)
Two New Mums (very real/funny)

Perexi · 28/10/2022 20:30

muminlndn · 28/10/2022 20:07

I have two podcast recommendations I've been really enjoying:
Midwife Pip (very informative)
Two New Mums (very real/funny)

Ooo thanks will check them out, ive found is this normal podcast good.

Hrf1503 · 28/10/2022 21:57

Thanks @muminlndn will have a listen! I’ve also been enjoying Is It Normal and Big Fat Positive.

Choc2022 · 28/10/2022 22:20

Thanks for podcast names and website links - very helpful for me :)

Cats23 · 29/10/2022 00:06

@alotoftutus -
Really intersting insight to your home births!
Im considerd high risk again (5th prwgnancy but 1st was v.prem!) so I wont ever be able to have a homebirth- Unless baby makes a sudden speedy arrival - Could happen as 2x of mine have been reasonably quick, but I'd also ve so scared to have a homebirth, mainly as hospital is an 1hr15 from my house, I think I feel reassured that a Dr would be on hand at hospital too.
A friend of mine is having her 5th home birth soon- Amazing!

Ubbee · 29/10/2022 07:50

@havanamama such a good question! I think it’s so easy to focus on pregnancy and birth the first time round so sounds like you’re prepping really well.
The first weeks for me are a real blur. I didn’t struggle with mental health but I wasn’t myself recovering physically and emotionally from a really difficult birth and a lot of blood loss which I just didn’t see coming after a really easy low risk pregnancy. I felt so positive and prepared about everything going into it and hoped I’d be joining the many on here considering home birth the second time round, but it’s sadly not meant to be for me now.
I think @LittleAcorn20 ’s advice to channel lockdown vibes and take all the pressure off is great. My husband struggled most emotionally in the early weeks, I think he probably had mild PTSD from the birth (which he had a much clearer memory of than me). Good to know that men who have young children are also prioritised for mental health support by NHS if needed. My milk never came in like other peoples seem to, again likely due to blood loss, which turned feeding into an absolute nightmare. In hindsight I wish I’d tried formula sooner and won’t be so hard on myself about this if it doesn’t happen more easily this time round.
I hope this doesn’t sound really negative - even though nothing was as I expected and it did feel enormously stressful at times my overwhelming memory of those times is being so cosy with so many cuddles (even if they were required 24/7 😅 ) and I’m so looking forward to doing it again. Remember that everything at that stage is so short lived, and it’s unlikely to be a unique stress so keep talking to everyone around you when it feels hard.

Thanks for the podcast recommends! Hope everyone has a lovely weekend 💕

Baby2iscooking · 29/10/2022 08:49

I’m also high risk. I’m on aspirin too as my first stopped growing at 36 weeks, was 5lb 3oz when born. I’m definitely be in hospital and will probably end up being induced again. As my bump so far is sad teeny as last time

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