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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 26/03/2022 18:45

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/topics/nausea-vomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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LucindaE · 02/09/2022 19:03

Minnie3003 Sorry, I left a nought out when I answered your post.You can tell I didn't sleep last night...

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SpringChicken06 · 03/09/2022 17:14

Hi @Minnie3003

Have they offered you IM anti emetics weekly form the gp / hospital if you can’t keep anything down? This was my next option if the combo of Metaclopromide / Cyclizine didn’t work, but since taking them together regularly (every 4 others alternate), I’ve not been unwell for 4/5 days, left the house, eaten foods I couldn’t even think about a week ago. You may also want to find your own combo as I had helpful nurses/Drs trying various ones either alone or together.
Like yourself I developed at 6 weeks and now 9 weeks. Also been hospitalised twice with IV fluids, anti emetics and also been referred to a dietician - might be something you need to ask for if you get another admission with your weight loss - rule of thumb is usually >5-10% (hope you don’t get admitted though!). I hope this helps because like you i got into a depressive mode of not leaving the house. I’m so so sorry you’re going through this ♥️

LucindaE · 03/09/2022 21:26

SpringChicken06 That is happy news, and great advice for Minnie3003.

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Elle1709 · 04/09/2022 08:34

Hi everyone, for anyone taking Omeprazole, when is the best time to take for nausea in third trimester? It just says take one a day on the box and doesn't specify when. Thanks 😊

Weathergirl1 · 04/09/2022 15:18

@Elle1709 i was prescribed it quite early on and the GP said it was better to take then in the morning rather than at night, however I've had to use it more recently because the ondansetron that was working isn't quite cutting it anymore. I tend to take it when I feel like I need it, so in an evening usually if I feel awful after having eaten, but I have also taken it in the afternoon if I've needed it earlier in the day.

ohCARP · 04/09/2022 17:49

I take omeprazole in the evening but my heartburn hasn't been too bad this time so I don't take it every day. If doctor says morning I'd go with that.

Is anyone else feeling really REALLY hormonal and unreasonable? I feel like I did the day before I went into labour with my first. Everything is annoying me and I'm going through my house rage cleaning and throwing away anything that gets in my way 😤

LucindaE · 04/09/2022 20:43

Weathergirl1 Great advice for Elle1709.
ohCARP Hopefully, it's just being generally hormonal. 'Rage cleaning' is a great term.

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LucindaE · 05/09/2022 20:42

I hope everyone is coping today.

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jennyc40 · 05/09/2022 23:28

Hang in there everyone! In case anyone wants reassurance regarding their symptoms, here is a comprehensive article regarding HG that I found to be helpful: www.mamasconnected.com/post/hyperemesis-gravidarum-morning-sickness-pregnancy
Best of luck to all x

BalletN · 06/09/2022 11:24

I had my 28 week midwife appointment yesterday. My hyperemisis has worsened over the last few weeks since starting back work so I've to increase my medication back to the maximum dose and also phone my gp to get a new line to sign me off completely until maternity leave starts in 5 weeks. So at least I think that solves my problem about personnel trying to cut my contract. Baby is measuring on 10th centile so only just OK 😬. She's seeing me again in 2 weeks time to check measurements then growth scan if needed. Hoping it's just inaccurate measurements. I thought I was doing really well with nutrition and I felt like my bump was big!

ohCARP · 06/09/2022 13:35

@BalletN sorry to hear about your sickness and it's always scary to hear that baby is measuring small. It's not your fault though and remember there has to be a 10th and a 90th centile for there to be a 50th. Not all babies can be average! It sounds like being signed off is the best thing for you and I hope you get some good rest before baby is born.

I'm back in hospital again. I have a UTI and they've checked for pre eclampsia and embolisms too. I've had yet another foetal fibronectin test and hopefully that will be negative so I can go home. I'm so tired and fed up and my 2 year old is tearful and confused. She keeps waking in the night because she's worried we won't be there in the morning. I don't know at which point they just say right let's induce but I'm already over it. If I can make it to 35 weeks (Sunday) baby is welcome to come whenever she wants because I've had enough.

Weathergirl1 · 06/09/2022 15:20

@ohCARP I feel you - I'm fed up too. 33+1 on my dates, 34 tomorrow on the scan date, so 5 weeks tomorrow until the sunroof is opening! We've been trying to start potty training with our 2 year old and while we're having some successes, it's really hard to sit with him when I feel like a beached whale...

I've been having pain in my left 2nd toe for a few weeks, nothing I can do will help. Finally resorted to Dr Google yesterday and discovered that the sciatic nerve goes all the way down to the toes and that's the side I've been having most hip/glute issues, so I'm fairly sure it's the same thing, sigh... I guess it's not going to get better now until the baby is out.

Had my '34 week' midwife appointment yesterday and my BP was 112/52 - I'm usually fairly low BP but I've never been that low before (unless you count post section in recovery last time when they had to give me IV fluids because my BP dropped). I'm now wondering if some of the nausea I've been feeling despite the medication is related to that and the extreme exhaustion too might be that, rather than iron levels which I thought it might be. I've also had cramp twice overnight in my right calf recently, and that's supposed to be related to salt deficiency. I've been and bought some ready salted crisps to try to get some salt into me as I'm hoping that might help all three issues - as soon as i saw them in the shop, it became a craving...

LucindaE · 06/09/2022 20:21

jennyc40 Thank you for your message of encouragement and link.

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LucindaE · 06/09/2022 20:35

Sorry, everyone, only one message came up.
BalletN Sorry to hear about sickness having got worse. They often get the baby's measurements wrong, as I'm sure you know. I'm glad you're off work now.
ohCARP Poor DD. Having a sibling will be a recompense.
Weathergirl1 Brave of you to attempt potty training. Could you treat yourself to a session with an Osteopath for the sciatica, as very ikely there is a dismally long waiting list for physiotherapy? I've always found Osteopaths wonderful in getting rid of sciatica.
Cheering all those on in their last few weeks, with the fabled Pink Castle at the
end of the Hyperemesis Horror Run in sight.

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LucindaE · 06/09/2022 20:37

OhCARP I' also managed to miss that you're stuck in hospital atm, poor you.

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IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes · 06/09/2022 21:27

This HG malarkey is really quite shite Sad sympathies for all of us going through it.

I'm 17+5 today and have been managing the nausea and vomiting with steroids and anti emetics (no thanks to my useless GP.... but that's a whole other story). Had an appointment with an obstetrician today and they told me that HG stops at 13 weeks and I need to come off the steroids. News to me! Considering most of us on here are suffering right the way through and I did with DS. It's staggering how ignorant some professionals can be about it.

The nausea seems to have come back today as well but apparently as long as I'm not actually vomiting it's fine. I haven't felt this rough in weeks and I find the horrendous and sore feeling nausea to be worse than the vomiting.

I think we all deserve medals for this Flowers

BalletN · 07/09/2022 06:59

@ohCARP @Weathergirl1 Sorry to hear you are both having such a tough time of it. Hang on in there, you are on the home stretch. It's just one thing after another!

Poor you, some professionals are still so ignorant.@IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes

Weathergirl1 · 07/09/2022 14:50

@IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes urgh sorry to hear you have a moron for an obstetrician. Mine was mostly nausea (I did vomit a bit but the early meds I was put on mostly stopped that) and it is indeed debilitating especially when there is no let up. I filled out the form to have a telephone consult to get different meds and put that it was really starting to affect my mental health after 2 months of it. The female GP who phoned me back said 'so how is it affecting your mental health?'. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE F-ING JOKING RIGHT? Seriously, she was very lucky it was a phone appointment because I don't think I would have physically restrained myself.

@LucindaE well we'd have been attempting potty training after last Easter if I hadn't been feeling so awful at the time - it's suddenly dawning that it would be a lot easier if we were even partially out of them with a newborn to deal with, and with the cost of energy going up (we're in reusables)! We've had two wees in the potty this morning so I think something is starting to click! I used to see an osteopath quite regularly pre-pandemic, but the practice I used to go to still has COVID restrictions and they won't see me because I'm mask exempt. To be honest, last time I was this heavily pregnant the osteo there was ridiculously cautious about doing anything so I would come away from an appointment still feeling like my back needed to move. We did see an osteopath who was used to working with pregnant ladies (she features as one of the experts in Bev Turner's birth book & also family friend as my FIL used to be her squash coach!) but she's in west London and I really can't justify trekking down there at the moment just for an appointment.

Wouldloveanother · 07/09/2022 15:39

Hi ladies. 9+2 and just had my ‘official’ diagnosis of HG today. It started at 7 weeks exactly. Vomiting throughout the day and also getting up every few hours to vomit at night as well. Constant nausea. I was sick in my first pregnancy but nothing like this. All I can eat is cheesy pasta, toast, the odd piece of fruit or boiled egg, full fat coke and water. It’s miserable so well done to those of you nearing the end of your pregnancies! I’m hoping and praying it eases off over the next few weeks as I can’t imagine this for the next 7 months.

LucindaE · 07/09/2022 18:57

Wouldloveanother Welcome. Sorry you are suffering. What meds have they got you on? Here is my normal spiel which I hope may help.Most sufferers find that they improve a lot at some point between weeks 14 and 20, or sometimes later. Even those who are unlucky enough to suffer throughout generally are not as ill later on as they are in the first part. A good anti acid can make a surprising difference to the sickness. Kesostix are worth buying online or from a chemists, as while they aren't they best test of dehydration, hospitals take them seriously.When reporting on the vomiting to doctors, remember to emphasize the number of heaves in each vomiting session, as doctors tend to count these as 'vomits' and this can lead to their underestimating the severity of your symptoms. Besides drinking through a straw, here are some drinks that have helped others: full sugar flat coke (if you don't find it too acid), ice lollies, frozen smoothie ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, Vimto, Lucozade, apple juice, Ribina, Dr Pepper, soda water, Elderflower water, tonic water, ice cubes, Iron Bru, lemonade, lemon squash, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), fizzy orange (M and S has been recommende), 7Up, isotonic drinks, sips of strawberry or chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), fizzy water, apple juice, Robinson's fruit drinks, Rubicon sparkling mango drink , raspberry Lucozade sport and frozen ice cubes of flat Lucozade sport. Also, pink lemonade , cloudy lemonade and Sprite. Foods of a sort include tinned fruit, cuppa soup, nibbles of crisps and chips, cheap ice cream, Scotch pancakes, bagels and biscuits, potato smileys, minature salty Yorkshire Puddings , dry cereals and slices of melon and mango. Protein drinks have also been mentioned.
IHaveBeenFallingForThirtyMinutes I'm sorry to hear that the Obstetrician was so ignorant about how long Hyperemesis can last. From everything that I have seen on those threads over the years, it is usual for it to last longer than normal pregnancy sickness, and while many do get relief between 16 and 21 weeks, it a good number sadly do suffer throughout, though hopefully not usually as badly. I supose those who suffer to the end often are those who stay on these threads, though some stay on to encourage others. It is disappointing that you have been taken off steroids. Surely the doctor substituted other meds?
Weathergirl1 If you could have shown signs of immenent vomiting on the GP's shoes, had that meeting been in person, that would have been good. That's a shame about the Osteo.
ohCARP I hope you are out of hospital now. How is the UTI, and how did the tests go?
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

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ohCARP · 07/09/2022 19:34

@LucindaE I'm out of hospital. Fortunately I got to come home yesterday and the antibiotics are doing the trick. I feel better in terms of pain but I'm so uncomfortable and ready to have this baby now.

@Wouldloveanother sorry to hear you're suffering. I really hope your sickness eases off and you get to enjoy your second trimester and beyond (as much as that's possible). Like @LucindaE it doesn't last for everyone. Mine was to 25 weeks with my first and 15 weeks with this baby (although those 15 weeks were 10x worse than that 25 with my eldest). Food tastes funny for me and I have to take omeprazole for heartburn but for the most part, I am sickness free. In fact, I was sick last week and I was terrified it would all start up again but it didn't. Anyway I hope that gives you some hope. Don't push yourself and get as much rest as you can. I felt like I'd never enjoy food ever again but it will get better I promise.

@IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes you're right. It is absolute shite. Even worse that people that haven't experienced it seem to have no understanding or empathy. My mum thought I was dying the first weeks of this pregnancy and our close family had to take shifts to look after me. When I went back to work I got comments about how I was pregnant, not sick. It's just ignorance and is infuriating.

@Weathergirl1 I would be tempted to post her your sick as a sample. What a horrible doctor!

Starbeach · 08/09/2022 06:42

Hi All do you know if hyperemesis can increase again in the third trimester?

Harley8888 · 08/09/2022 13:41

I don't know how I can carry on.. I started on xonvea which helped but I'm still vomiting 4 to 5 times a day and nausea is constant! My throat has started bleeding.
I was admitted to hosp last week on IV.

I'm only 9 weeks and I don't know how I can do this. I have barely left bed.. if I move around I want to be sick. I have a 3 year old to look after who is confused and traumatised seeing me like this. I have work that I'm letting down.

My first pregnancy I had HG too but I don't think it was this bad this early on.

I just don't think I can do this. I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel anymore and I just want this to stop.

LucindaE · 08/09/2022 18:37

ohCARP I am so glad you are out. Great advice.
Starbeach I'm afraid that it does come back for some in the third tri, though usually not as badly as in the first. With some it comes back during hormonal surges.
Harley8888 Do ask for stronger meds, tiresome as it is to have to keep asking for different ones. Sympathies.
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.

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LucindaE · 08/09/2022 18:58

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Watermelonbonnie 2 December
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