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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 26/03/2022 18:45

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/topics/nausea-vomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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Spottybutterfly · 21/07/2022 21:34

My hyperemesis has came back, today has been the worst day in a while. I've felt nauseous for most of the day and vomited 3 times. It had got a bit better before I had covid and hadn't actually vomited for a long time. I stupidly assumed I wouldn't relapse this late on (37 weeks).

Any body have tips about swallowing medicine when you feel sick? I'm struggling to not gag.

Also just a rant, my BIL claimed today when I said I don't think people realise how ill I've been, "Is it really that bad it's just pregnancy". I could have punched him.

Ballyboo1986 · 23/07/2022 12:11

Hi Everyone, I havnt posted in a while. I had horrific hyperemesis in 1st pregnancy starting from week 6. I'm 9 weeks today and while I have been extremely nauseous I have only vomited once. I'm wondering if I'm heading towards the safe zone now or did many get it for first time in pregnancy after 9 weeks? ,☺️

KatieJayne86 · 23/07/2022 13:53

Spottybutterfly · 21/07/2022 21:34

My hyperemesis has came back, today has been the worst day in a while. I've felt nauseous for most of the day and vomited 3 times. It had got a bit better before I had covid and hadn't actually vomited for a long time. I stupidly assumed I wouldn't relapse this late on (37 weeks).

Any body have tips about swallowing medicine when you feel sick? I'm struggling to not gag.

Also just a rant, my BIL claimed today when I said I don't think people realise how ill I've been, "Is it really that bad it's just pregnancy". I could have punched him.

Mine came back yesterday too, at 27 weeks. Haven't actually vomitted in weeks but ended up doing so after a day of massive nausea 😭

LucindaE · 23/07/2022 19:40

Back from Buckinghamshire.
Ballyboo1906 That looks encouraging, as those who are going to suffer badly generally get symptoms quite early. Ten weeks tends to be the time of a hormonal sure, so if you feel particularly bad round then, all is not lost.
Spottybutterfly It is dismal for those who have it return towards the end of pregnancy. Sorry it's returned. At this stage, are you allowed the same meds? I know it varies. How insenstive of your brother-in-law, speaking like an expert, I suppose!
KatieJayne86 I hope it is a glitch- maybe a hormoonal surge.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

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buntywindermere · 23/07/2022 21:14

When you realise just how much the HG has taken its toll on the whole family for the best part of a year - my 4yo was lovingly rubbing the baby bump today and says, "I just can't believe I'm going to have TWO babies to look after!"... my heart! My big boy!! I have been a pretty absent mum and clearly he feels he's taken on the responsibility of looking after our 2yo.

I don't know if it was the heat but I have had a terrible week here too. At 16 weeks now I feel I should be coming out of the worst but I'm just exhausted. At least it's the summer holidays now.

@Ballyboo1986 hopefully the worst is over for you! I can't reassure you though I'm afraid, my worst weeks have always been 9-14.

@Spottybutterfly I know some medicine comes as dissolvable, which I think some people find easier, but I tried dissolvable prochlorperazine and it was hideous. The way it melted on my gums and trickled down actually made me feel worse!

Love to everyone. Hope you've all cooled down and aren't struggling as much this weekend. Flowers

LucindaE · 24/07/2022 20:57

buntywindermere Sorry about terrible week! The heat a few days ago can't have helped. That's so sweet about your four year old. Waves to all.

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Correlation · 25/07/2022 18:20

Hi all, since I last posted the all day intense nausea has improved (I’m now 16 weeks) but I’m still having serious food aversions and some days can only manage cheese sandwiches, crisps and orange juice. Just looking at certain foods makes me start to feel the nausea rising again. Is this normal? In my last pregnancy once the nausea had gone I was pretty much able to eat anything again, but this time I feel like I’m always one “wrong” meal away from feeling sick. I’m also still struggling taking my multivitamin and other medication - I stare at them for sometimes a couple of hours before saying “fuck it”, downing them and then feeling sick afterwards ( this is last thing at night so I just go to bed).
Bit worried about my current limited diet but as I said I’m taking the multivits. Will baby be ok? Sometimes I can manage raw carrot sticks!!

Thetractorjustmoved · 25/07/2022 18:23

Here's a grim question- I'm puking maybe every couple of hours at the moment, so it could be worse. I can't tell how dehydrated I'm getting, as after I'm sick I'm able to drink a bit (eg a can of coke nearly). Will any of that have kind of absorbed before I'm next sick in 90ish minutes? I seem to be chucking up the whole contents of my stomach but I hate to think that the effort of drinking is completely wasted each time! Sorry for tmi xx

LucindaE · 25/07/2022 19:20

Thetractorjustmoved Welcome back. It's discouraging with the vomiting up of liquids, but while I am not medically trained, suely you must be taking in a decent amount of liquid between vomits. I think liquids go through quicker than solids. How about symptoms of dehydration - frequently more reliable than the kesostix measurements which hospitals take seriously - a dry mouth and skin, etc? Is this intake with sipping constantly? Do ice lollies or frozen cubes of flat coke make vomitng less likely? Never worry about tmi on here.
Correlation I think everyone worries about the baby not getting enough nourishment, but it's amazing how they thrive, and cheese sandwiches and orange juice sound particularly healthy! It's good you can take the vitamins most of the time, and eat the carrot sticks sometimes. There are liquid forms of the vitamins, I believe, which might help. both Thetractorjustmoved and Correlation Below is part of my normal spiel, in case any of it and particularly the bit about recommended drinks and foods have been acceptable to others.
'A good anti acid can make a surprising difference to the sickness. Kesostix are worth buying online or from a chemists, as while they aren't they best test of dehydration, hospitals take them seriously.When reporting on the vomiting to doctors, remember to emphasize the number of heaves in each vomiting session, as doctors tend to count these as 'vomits' and this can lead to their underestimating the severity of your symptoms. Besides drinking through a straw, here are some drinks that have helped others: full sugar flat coke (if you don't find it too acid), ice lollies, frozen smoothie ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, Vimto, Lucozade, apple juice, Ribina, Dr Pepper, soda water, Elderflower water, tonic water, ice cubes, Iron Bru, lemonade, lemon squash, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), fizzy orange (M and S has been recommende), 7Up, isotonic drinks, sips of strawberry or chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), fizzy water, apple juice, Robinson's fruit drinks, Rubicon sparkling mango drink , raspberry Lucozade sport and frozen ice cubes of flat Lucozade sport. Also, pink lemonade , cloudy lemonade and Sprite. Foods of a sort include tinned fruit, cuppa soup, nibbles of crisps and chips, cheap ice cream, Scotch pancakes, bagels and biscuits, potato smileys, minature salty Yorkshire Puddings , dry cereals and slices of melon and mango. Protein drinks have also been mentioned.'
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.

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Correlation · 25/07/2022 19:33

Thank you for the reassurance @LucindaE . Also good tip about the liquid vitamins - hadn’t thought of that. I’m going to try and get some tomorrow.

IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes · 25/07/2022 20:44

Hi ladies,

Hope you're all doing as well as you can be! The cooler temperatures have definitely helped a bit.

I was put on steroids 2 and a half weeks ago and felt ready to taper my dose today so I've reduced it by 10mg. However, I definitely feel worse Sad does anyone have any experience of reducing steroids and it just not working? I don't want to end up back in hospital. Can I just put my dose back up and try to reduce later instead? I'm 11+4 today

LucindaE · 26/07/2022 21:22

IHaveBeenFallingForThirtyMnutes I wish I could advise you, and I hope that anyone who has been on steroids has some experience of this. What was the recommendation from the hospital about reducing the dose?
Corrrelation I'm glad that provided some reassurance. Yes, a lot of sufferers find the liquid version of the vitamins much more bearable to take.

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IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes · 27/07/2022 03:12

Thank you @LucindaE they said to reduce it when symptoms were under control. I've put the dose back up as I felt dreadful and still do! It just feels like there is so much pressure from doctors to come off the meds.

Snowwhite2020 · 27/07/2022 07:00

Hi everyone,

ive not posted in a while as was struggling a lot with the heat, which definitely made the sickness/ nausea worse, as well as looking after a toddler who also didn’t like the heat! Things better now the temperature has come down again.

I am 18 weeks now and I am definitely feeling better. I’ve been able to reduce the meds (though not off them completely) and I am slowly reintroducing things into my diet though all the usual “tough” foods still a no go- meat etc.

@Correlation cheese sandwiches and orange juice and crisps always been a go to for me when the nausea has allowed! I can also relate about the vitamins (and other meds). Taking meds or vitamins is always a major danger moment for throwing up… ironically. I try to “take my mind away” if that makes sense so I’m not thinking about it and do it quickly but even at that… there’s a fairly high failure rate, especially with vitamins oddly. I have the gummy ones which I find easier to stomach than the huge ones you get as standard in pregnancy. @LucindaE liquid vitamins do sound like an interesting alternative worth a try.

sorry about everyone suffering relapses later in pregnancy. I live in fear of this, though it didn’t happen in my first pregnancy, I hear it is common for HG sufferers.

Love to all. Commiserations to the poster whose BIL made that stupid comment… very hard to hear such idiocy, especially from someone who will never experience pregnancy let along hyperemesis! Sigh. Deep sigh.

xx

LucindaE · 27/07/2022 21:08

Snowwhite2020 I am so glad you are feeling better. Thank you for your encouraging post. I so agree that was an infuriating remark from the poster's BIL!
IHaveBeenFalllingFor30Minutes Hopefully, you will feel up to it a bit later on. I'm glad the medics told you to judge when you felt well enough.

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Nelly040 · 28/07/2022 14:10

Hi everyone, hope everyone is holding up OK! I posted a while back about Xoneva…I’ve been on it for 6 weeks and whilst it helps me to eat it doesn’t touch the 24/7 intense nausea. I’m 14 weeks and it’s showing no signs of going. Just wondered if anyone had any success with ondestron helping with the nausea? I’ve seen it can cause bad constipation so don’t know whether to just stick with Xoneva! Thank you 😊

LucindaE · 28/07/2022 20:56

Nelly040 I am glad Xonvea is helping you to eat. I hope someone currently on Ondansetron can advise you about the nausea aspect. From what I have seen on these threads, it helps some with nausea but not others. Sometimes a combination of meds helps with that. Are you on an anti acid, as that can make a big difference to the nausea? Many on here have been helped by Omprazole.

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Nelly040 · 29/07/2022 13:10

Thank you @LucindaE thats what I thought had seen - some saying it helped with nausea and others not! I am on omperazole but just for a week so might not yet have seen the benefit! I definitely find some days are worse than others so hopefully by having some better days it might be starting to get better. Thank you for your help!

LucindaE · 29/07/2022 19:42

Nelly040 I'm glad you are having better days - always an encouraging sign that the turnaround may well be on its way.

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Hyperemesishell · 30/07/2022 10:20

IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes · 25/07/2022 20:44

Hi ladies,

Hope you're all doing as well as you can be! The cooler temperatures have definitely helped a bit.

I was put on steroids 2 and a half weeks ago and felt ready to taper my dose today so I've reduced it by 10mg. However, I definitely feel worse Sad does anyone have any experience of reducing steroids and it just not working? I don't want to end up back in hospital. Can I just put my dose back up and try to reduce later instead? I'm 11+4 today

I tapered by going down 5mg every 5 days (from an initial dose of 40mg post IV doses) - a 10mg drop sounds a lot from what the Consultant and Pharmacist said to me. Unfortunately coming off them didn’t work for me so back on them again now at 25mg for another 3 weeks - I’m 25 weeks. Hope things ease for you x

LucindaE · 30/07/2022 21:23

Hyperemesishell Thank you so much for that great advice for IHaveBeenFallingForThirtyMinutes about reducing steroids. You must have had it very badly, oh dear. I hope you get an improvement soon.

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Snowwhite2020 · 31/07/2022 15:53

Hi everyone,

Hope everyone is managing ok this weekend. Just a quick note about omeprazole, as I can see some have mentioned it. I forgot to take mine for two days in a row and had the most horrendous vomiting relapse…. Might be coincidental but I’ve definitely not missed it since and things have seemed to settle down a bit again!

Odd how you can seem to be so much better and a relapse is only ever just round the corner… anything is a trigger for me: sleep deprivation, stress, still certain foods… im sure many on here can relate.

Anyway, hope that might be helpful info for anyone considering an anti acid on top of other meds.

I’m nearly 19 weeks and nausea and general
sickness continues to be much improved.

Love to all,

xx

IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes · 31/07/2022 18:26

Thank you @Hyperemesishell they advised to drop 10mg but I will try 5mg in a couple of weeks. It's so miserable and I'm really fed up of hearing how amazing other people are feeling now they are past 12 weeks. I know that's awful but this has been anything but a happy time for us and I'm not even sure my relationship is going to survive this! I'm finding I'm really resenting my other half because he can do things like brush his teeth, shower and go to the shop. I don't even think we have a relationship anymore. I'm also so sick of being told it will be worth it in the end.... yes that end is 27 weeks away so please shut up. I know people mean well but it's really not what I want to hear right now. Sorry for the moan!

Regarding the ondansetron, @Nelly040 it helps me with the steroids. I am living on cheese sandwiches, egg mayo sandwiches and macaroni cheese but I can eat without vomiting. Make sure you get some lactulose or something with it as it really does bung you up Blush

Snowwhite2020 · 31/07/2022 20:27

@IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes love to you…. Hyperemesis really is hell and I think it is as much of a mental struggle as it is a physical one- and that is saying something as we all know what a physical struggle it is!

Have you checked out the website www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk there is some good info on there and some good videos which I have found some comfort in (knowing others go through it and not everyone is better at 12 weeks as HG is not just “morning sickness” and other rubbish that gets said!) Also the best online info for partners/ family that I have found to help them begin to understand (if they don’t) which might in turn help you.

Hope that might be of some comfort to you. I also hope that symptoms do lessen or lift a little for you over the next little while- it can happen, it takes a lot longer for many with HG for symptoms to lift a bit and yes many suffer the whole way through… but I hope you will get some relief.

xx

KatieJayne86 · 31/07/2022 20:48

Nelly040 · 28/07/2022 14:10

Hi everyone, hope everyone is holding up OK! I posted a while back about Xoneva…I’ve been on it for 6 weeks and whilst it helps me to eat it doesn’t touch the 24/7 intense nausea. I’m 14 weeks and it’s showing no signs of going. Just wondered if anyone had any success with ondestron helping with the nausea? I’ve seen it can cause bad constipation so don’t know whether to just stick with Xoneva! Thank you 😊

Hello! I'm on both ondansetron and xonvea. Just the one alone wasn't enough for me and I really have seen a benefit combining the two. I have had a bit of constipation, but nothing major at all!

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