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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 26/03/2022 18:45

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/topics/nausea-vomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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buntywindermere · 16/06/2022 14:08

The ondansetron has kicked in for me and aside from the pounding head ache and dizziness I feel almost brand new!!! I haven't been sick since we were in the lift at the hospital on Tuesday, and I have actually spent time outside and downstairs today instead of just in bed.

@LucindaE we will all look out for each other while you're away. Enjoy yourself, I hope you and your family have the best weekend !! Flowers

ChloeHel · 16/06/2022 14:56

@KatieJayne86 try another pharmacy! It is back in stock down. I am back in work now and checked the stock system yesterday and it was still green which means available.

@LucindaE yes free treatment all around. Unless of course cosmetic, then I pay him 😂 hope you have a nice weekend, fantastic weather for a wedding!

@ohhollyfred congratulations on your pregnancy. I’ve been taking xonvea since 8 weeks and it’s been my saviour. It did go out of stock for 6 weeks back in may and has only just come back!

Spottybutterfly · 16/06/2022 16:57

I want to cry. I'm 32 weeks, still having quease and dizziness. I've now got a UTI and covid. Oh and a pulled rib.

Why does pregnancy have to be so hard!

KatieJayne86 · 16/06/2022 18:28

I've got it now - thank god!!

MerryHen · 16/06/2022 21:45

Hello everyone,
Just checking in. I hope everyone is coping in the hot weather, it set my vomitting off again yesterday after almost a whole week of being vomit free (constantly nauseous but the meds are helping with the sickness!). I phoned my GP again today to get meds prescribed again and was fully expecting to have to fight for them but the GP was so good, listened to what I wanted and has put them all on repeat prescription 😭 such a difference to my first HG experience five years ago and such a weight off my mind.

I'm returning to working 12.5 hour shifts next week, does anyone have any tips on how to survive? Especially in this heat. I haven't told anyone about this pregnancy yet, I had to let work know so early in my first two pregnancies because of HG so I wanted to enjoy keeping it to myself for a bit this time, but I'm actually not sure how I'm going to survive long days 😬

BalletN · 17/06/2022 07:59

@Spottybutterfly Sorry you are having such a hard time of it. Hopefully once you are over covid you will be on the home stretch.

@MerryHen Good luck going back to work. I went back yesterday but on reduced hours so only for 2 hours a day at the moment. Would your gp/work be willing to negotiate something like that?

Spottybutterfly · 17/06/2022 13:51

@MerryHen I have no tips, sorry. I had to tell work at 4 weeks pregnant as I felt sick.

I had a proper cry and hyperventilated this morning when I couldn't get the antibiotic swallowed and just kept gagging and wretching. Even a well me wouldn't manage it. I'm rubbish with tablets and it's the size of a paracetamol capsule.

I ended up ringing the doctors crying and they've given me medicine to try instead.

However didn't appreciate some of the doctors attitude. He questioned if I even had a UTI and was I sure. Well considering yesterday they dipped my urine to find blood and protein. I have stomach ache and my we has been foamy and cloudy, it sounds like a UTI.

He also questioned that I'm taking antidepressant. Antidepressants that have allowed me to have a life and not be house bound for the last 10 years. That 2 physiatrists have checked over during my pregnancy.

Anyway rant over.

MerryHen · 17/06/2022 14:04

@Spottybutterfly sorry you had such an unsympathetic doctor, his attitude sounds terrible- especially towards the antidepressants, it's well known (within obstetrics anyway, and should be general practice too) that maternal mental health is the leading cause of perinatal mortality so him questioning your treatment absolutely stinks.

Do you mind me asking how many weeks pregnant you are? Did whoever dipped your urine also send off a urine sample to get a growth culture from? I hope you're able to tolerate the fluid antibiotics and that they start to work soon.

IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes · 18/06/2022 04:27

Hi ladies,

Can I join please? 6+2 and the HG has well and truly hit Sad I had it with DS and I really (rather naively) hoped it wouldn't be as bad this time.... on ondansetron as nothing worked before but I missed a dose yesterday as I was sleeping and the sickness has once again taken hold, the joys.

buntywindermere · 18/06/2022 06:54

Hi @MerryHen good luck! No advice I'm afraid. I have had to take 6-8 weeks off with all my pregnancies. I would advise taking longer than you feel you maybe need off though if finances allow. I tried to rush back at 12 weeks with my 1st and ended up passing out and needing a further 4 weeks off. Definitely let work know, it's annoying, but best for your safety!

@Spottybutterfly that sounds like exactly the kind of stress you don't need to be dealing with at the moment. I'm sorry your doctor was like that and hopefully next time you can be seen/spoken with by someone more compassionate and understanding.

Welcome @IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes sorry you're back here again. Those of us going through subsequent pregnancies I think all cling onto that "every pregnancy is different!" hope. Congratulations on number 2! With my 2nd, I tried weaning myself off ondansetron at about 20 weeks because I thought I was fine - what a mistake!!! I always made I had ample supply until the very end of my pregnancy then. Sorry it's so rubbish, but pleased that the ondansetron does at least seem to be working.

Spottybutterfly · 18/06/2022 13:00

MerryHen · 17/06/2022 14:04

@Spottybutterfly sorry you had such an unsympathetic doctor, his attitude sounds terrible- especially towards the antidepressants, it's well known (within obstetrics anyway, and should be general practice too) that maternal mental health is the leading cause of perinatal mortality so him questioning your treatment absolutely stinks.

Do you mind me asking how many weeks pregnant you are? Did whoever dipped your urine also send off a urine sample to get a growth culture from? I hope you're able to tolerate the fluid antibiotics and that they start to work soon.

They dipped it. The unsympathetic doctor actually ran me this morning. Said the culture from it was "nothing raging" whatever that means. So I only need to take the medicine for 5 days.

He seemed better today and genuinely concerned. I've never had a doctor ring on a Saturday.

Spottybutterfly · 18/06/2022 13:02

*dipped it and sent it for a culture

IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes · 18/06/2022 19:09

Does anyone know what can be done if the ondansetron isn't cutting it? I'm only on 4mg twice a day so I'm assuming that can be upped?

The sickness is absolutely killing me today Sad

ElephantGrey101 · 19/06/2022 09:10

I have been feeling better on cytlezine and managing to eat something but I have just come back from holiday and weighed myself and I have lost 2 stone in about 3 weeks. The Her foundation say that anything above 5% weight loss counts as severe weight loss in pregnancy and I have lost 16% of my body weight. Is this bad?

@IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes go back to your doctor. They can up your dose of onadestrone and give you some other drugs in combination. Are you taking an ant acid.

LucindaE · 19/06/2022 18:17

Back from daughter's wedding. We had a great time and it was a beautiful location. Weather was a bit chilly, incredibly after Friday, but at least it didn't rain.
As expected, you have all been supporting each other brilliantly and welcome to I HaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes and sorry you are suffering again.

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LucindaE · 19/06/2022 18:18

Ha, Ha, not a good return for me - that should be IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes.

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IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes · 19/06/2022 20:22

Thank you - I'm not on any ant acids so maybe I need to push for those too.

I have managed some food and water today but nowhere near what I should be getting. OH is worried about dehydration and keeps trying to get me to drink but I just feel so rubbish Sad

LucindaE · 20/06/2022 13:12

They can help a suprising amount.

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LucindaE · 20/06/2022 13:16

Do you find ice lollies, full sugar coke, or the juice of tinned fruit any good? Sorry, there's lots of tips for drinks that people find bearable on here - I didn't do my introductory spiel as you're a veteran . Are you checking your urine with kesosticks as that might reassure him?

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LucindaE · 20/06/2022 13:19

Here's the introductory spiel which has lots of tips for bearable drinks. Ignore the parts which don't apply, obviously. Sufferers find that they improve a lot at some point between weeks 14 and 20, or sometimes later. Even those who are unlucky enough to suffer throughout generally are not as ill later on as they are in the first part. A good anti acid can make a surprising difference to the sickness. Kesostix are worth buying online or from a chemists, as while they aren't they best test of dehydration, hospitals take them seriously.When reporting on the vomiting to doctors, remember to emphasize the number of heaves in each vomiting session, as doctors tend to count these as 'vomits' and this can lead to their underestimating the severity of your symptoms. Besides drinking through a straw, here are some drinks that have helped others: full sugar flat coke (if you don't find it too acid), ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, Vimto, Lucozade, apple juice, Ribina, Dr Pepper, soda water, Elderflower water, tonic water, ice cubes, Iron Bru, lemonade, lemon squash, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), fizzy orange (M and S has been recommende), 7Up, isotonic drinks, sips of strawberry or chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), fizzy water, apple juice, Robinson's fruit drinks, Rubicon sparkling mango drink , raspberry Lucozade sport and frozen ice cubes of flat Lucozade sport. Also, pink lemonade , cloudy lemonade and Sprite. Foods of a sort include tinned fruit, cuppa soup, nibbles of crisps and chips, cheap ice cream, Scotch pancakes, bagels and biscuits, potato smileys, minature salty Yorkshire Puddings , dry cereals and slices of melon and mango. Protein drinks have also been mentioned.

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IHaveBeenFallingFor30Minutes · 20/06/2022 18:02

I can't keep anything down or even stomach the thought of water so off to hospital later on. It's really miserable and I don't understand why it's so bloody awful today! Even the ondansetron isn't working. The doctor gave me some cyclizine as well but I can't keep anything down long enough.

Worryant · 20/06/2022 19:44

Hope everyone is coping ok. I’m at 19 weeks and since my hospital admission have been ok on cyclizine and Prochlorperazine. Still not great and so exhausted but have been able to work and eat a bit. I’ve been put on two tablets three times a day for Prochlorperazine which I read was for vomiting and you could have one tablet three times a day to just manage nausea. I started cutting my dose to see how I’d get on if I tried to wean off. Seemed ok at first but today have been vomiting all day, can’t keep food down, just about managing water.
So guessing that was a mistake and I should stay on what I was given! Wondered if maybe there was a hormone rush or growth around the 20 week mark that might have made it particularly bad or if I should just stay on my meds and be grateful!

ElephantGrey101 · 21/06/2022 08:33

I have my first midwife appointment today and I feel awful. I haves vomited up all my medication and I have a banging headache. There is no liquid in my system. I only have traces of ketones because I made a real effort to eat yesterday but my PUQE score ( at least some has as sense of humour) is at the top of the scale. Do you think they will admit me. I have read the nice guidelines and they should but GP says they need ketones. Sorry for the moan.

Nelly040 · 21/06/2022 17:47

Hello, I’ve been reading this thread a few weeks and it’s been a great comfort to me knowing I’m not alone! I’m 8.5 weeks, although I’m not vomiting I have severe nausea that’s 24/7. I was prescribed cyclizine at 6 weeks but it’s not doing anything other than helping me sleep! My GP agreeed to prescribe me Xonvea which I managed to get hold of, does anyone know if I can take cyclizne during the day? I find cyclizine helps me with feeling sleepy/being able to sleep so nervous to stop that in case the Xonvea doesn’t work! I can’t find any info in the patient leaflet :( Hope everyone is holding up xx

ElephantGrey101 · 21/06/2022 19:44

Hi Nelly I don’t know if you can take cytlezine and Xonevea but lot of people do take lots of drugs in combination. cytlezine does make you sleepy. I have just had an injection of it in hospital and I feel really tired now. I have had a little nap.

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