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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 26/03/2022 18:45

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/topics/nausea-vomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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Spottybutterfly · 29/05/2022 13:44

I was at the maternity assesment unit last week for fainting. They suggested that the promethazine teoclate(that I've been taking for 21 weeks to help keep food down) mixed with my antidepressants could be the culprit and as the sickness and queasyness had eased quite a bit to try coming off them.

As half term had started and I have a week off I decided to try coming off them. Didn't have a tablet Friday night and didn't have one last night. Today sickness came back and I felt rubbish again. So rubbish I didn't even wait until bedtime to take a dose (I'm ment to take it before bed).

It's Avomine 25mg tablets. I took one a out 10 mins ago. Does anyone know of it's safe for baby if I take another one at bedtime or do I need to wait until Monday bedtime?

Forgot to say I'm 29 weeks now. Due 10th of August.

LucindaE · 29/05/2022 18:39

Spottybutterly That is miserable about being taken off those meds. I wish I could advise the safe dose. I hope someone else can asap. Have added your due date.
PopGoesBang It was considerate of Melleebacca's baby.
Melleebacca On my congratulatins message, I mentioned how I would particularly remember your advice about calcium powder and acidity. That is so useful.
Waves to ChloeHel and everyone.
Due Dates
HopefulJ2018 14 June
Starbeach 17 June
BuffyFanForever 19 Jun TWINS!
PopGoesBang 7 August
Spottybutterfly 10 August.
FarmWife 12 August
rainbowzebra05 15 September
ChloeHel 5 October
Kiwi202 15 October
ohCARP 16 October
tigger2022 18 November
greenerfingers 28 November

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ElephantGrey101 · 30/05/2022 19:41

I had my early scan today so now I have a due date to add to the list. I got a surprisingly clear picture of the baby and I am 9 weeks. Due 29th December.

imsoscared2022 · 30/05/2022 23:30

Does anyone feel like they're having contractions when they vomit? Especially those that are having a 3rd pregnancy. It's gotten worse each time.

Thanks you to all for the lovely advice. My doctors advice is to take some nausea pills and get myself to a and e for a drip. I didn't go last time because there's no one to look after my kids and it's the same this time.

LucindaE · 31/05/2022 17:48

ElephantGrey101 That's happy news. Added you.
i'msoscared2022 You are very brave to go for it a third time. Violent vomiting does pull at the abdominal muscles, and even strain them at times. Can they sort something out in A and E so that you can get fluids while the LO's are with you? I vaguely remember they have done that with others who needed fluids and couldn't get childcare. I hope the meds prescribed help a lot.

Due Dates
HopefulJ2018 14 June
Starbeach 17 June
BuffyFanForever 19 Jun TWINS!
PopGoesBang 7 August
FarmWife 12 August
rainbowzebra05 15 September
ChloeHel 5 October
Kiwi202 15 October
ohCARP 16 October
tigger2022 18 November
greenerfingers 28 November
ElephantGrey101 29 December

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greenerfingers · 31/05/2022 18:45

I used to have my fluids given to me in a side room connected to the A&E waiting room. Could have whoever with me as it was such a quick and routine procedure.

LucindaE · 01/06/2022 14:09

greenerfingers Great advice.
I'm going away tomorrow, but back on Friday.
I hope everyone is coping today.

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ElephantGrey101 · 01/06/2022 17:37

I am very excited to be added to the due date list. I felt a bit of a fraud because I was feeling a lot better than I did at this point in my last pregnancy and the medication was working for me but now I am back to being sick again.

Babyraymanmama · 01/06/2022 19:32

Hi everyone,
sorry for jumping on your thread but I got recommended this site for a bit of support/advise with my HG
I’m now 27+4 and although my HG seemed to get better throughout my second trimester it’s come back with a vengeance!
Ive had to come off work sick with it and I’m desperate to get my life back so any tips or advise would be greatly appreciated!
xxxx

BalletN · 01/06/2022 20:10

@ElephantGrey101 sorry to hear you are being sick again. It's brutal like that, you think you're getting better and then it comes back again.
@Babyraymanmama sounds miserable. Have you tried reducing your meds recently or trying to do more when you were feeling better?
@LucindaE I hope you are having a nice time away.

Babyraymanmama · 01/06/2022 20:19

@BalletN the dr told me to only take the medication when I'm feeling unwell which I'm wondering if is the problem - according to them long term use isn't great for baby
I haven't done too much more than normal but work is pretty full on with 12 hour shifts so I don't know if that's becoming too much now

ChloeHel · 01/06/2022 22:48

Babyraymanmama · 01/06/2022 20:19

@BalletN the dr told me to only take the medication when I'm feeling unwell which I'm wondering if is the problem - according to them long term use isn't great for baby
I haven't done too much more than normal but work is pretty full on with 12 hour shifts so I don't know if that's becoming too much now

Ah conflicting advice from the GP regarding the meds, what meds are/were you taking?

I’m 22 weeks and still taking my anti-sickness meds, I wouldn’t dream of stopping as I know I’ll be bed bound again! I did reduce the dose though but that was due to a supply issue. Can you perhaps just dose reduce instead of
completely stop? It doesn’t really work if you only take it when unwell because the whole point is to stop you from being unwell in the first place.

It could also be the amount of work! I’ve started feeling worse because I’m due to go back to work next week and the anxiety is bringing the HG back. Take some time off to recuperate then take it slow from there.

imsoscared2022 · 02/06/2022 04:22

@LucindaE thank you

I went to a and e and got an anti sickness injection and also cyclising tablets. The moment the tablets wear off I am back to feeling shakey, dizzy and sick. Otherwise with the medicine I felt like a normal functioning human. My husband said how can you decide to terminate when you're so fit and well in one day. I told him only I know how I feel.

Thank you for telling me about the violent vomiting because it is just that. It's projectile vomiting and I think in my last pregnancy I've built up so much trauma that the thought of vomiting brings in hysterical crying.

I want to end my pregnancy. Part of me thinks if Kate Middleton can do it a third time why can't I. But I've not got staff to look after my other children and I can't stay in hospital. Just want to tell everyone you're so brave for continuing and you're so brave if you've decided to end it. It is a hell of its own.

imsoscared2022 · 02/06/2022 04:25

Cyclizine *

ElephantGrey101 · 02/06/2022 07:07

@imsoscared2022 I am pleased that you have been to A and E to get some medication and fluids. Have they given you any medication to take home? It sounds like you are really struggling.

@Babyraymanmama I think that you do need to take the medication every day to feel well because you would feel really unwell if you were not taking it. It also sounds like you are working a lot of hours and that can make the sickness worse.

My little boy has been up all night with a sickness bug and I keep being sick in sympathy with him. I have managed to take my medication which is always a challenge.

ChloeHel · 02/06/2022 08:22

KatieJayne86 · 19/05/2022 17:03

So Xonvea didn't come back into stock on the 18th and I've now been told the 23rd by Exeltis 🙄

Have you had any update about xonvea? absolutely nothing on my end.

How are you managing without?

Babyraymanmama · 02/06/2022 09:46

@ChloeHel @ElephantGrey101 thanks for your advise
I'll start taking them regularly and see if that helps at all
I've called in sick again to work today to see if a bit of rest helps aswell
The only other thing the dr suggested was cutting out foods with gluten in but I'm not sure how that would help tbh
@ElephantGrey101 I hope you and your little boy feel better soon!

MerryHen · 02/06/2022 14:18

Hello everyone,
I'm going to jump on board. Currently ~7 weeks into my fourth HG pregnancy, I feel like an old hand at this now but also feel prior experience doesn't make it any easier.

A bit of history, my first HG pregnancy was in 2017. I struggled to get any help managing the sickness, neither GP nor MW wanted to hear how ill I was so I managed on my own vomiting up to 15 times a day, easing to a few times a day in the second half of pregnancy but was sick right up until giving birth. I developed sepsis towards the end of pregnancy but put my symptoms down to a reemergence of severe HG so didn't seek help until it got quite bad when I was admitted to the hospital through A&E for rehydration and treatment. I had IV ondansetron on that occasion so experienced my first sickness free period of pregnancy. DS was born healthy but unexpectedly died as a newborn, I asked during the lead-up to his inquest if my untreated HG could have played a part and was told probably not but I still wonder.

Second HG pregnancy in 2018, sickness initially felt much worse but that pregnancy started as a twin pregnancy, I had a blighted ovum so only one baby developed but I wonder if that is why it was initially worse. Pregnancy was managed much better by a mixture of cyclizine, promethazine, prochlorperazine, and metoclopramide. I was still on mat leave at this point and didn't have any other children to physically take care of, so could spend as much time resting as I needed which helped a lot. DD was born healthy at the start of 2019.

Last year I had an early miscarriage at 7-8 weeks, sickness symptoms started before I'd even had a missed period so I got medication from my GP straight away. I realised I was miscarrying when my sickness began to subside at ~7 weeks, I then went on to lost the pregnancy.

And now here I am on pregnancy number 4. I haven't been able to speak with a GP yet but have been taking the medication I was prescribed last year and I have an OOH phone appointment tomorrow morning. The combination of cyclizine and prochlorperazine has helped me keep on top of the worst of the sickness but I still feel constantly nauseous and even with medication my vomiting has been getting progressively worse over the past week, I know from experience I still have a few more weeks until it'll probably reach its peak and I already feel so sick. I've also been taking promethazine in the evening but it makes me so sleepy I don't want to take it during the day. I had to cancel work yesterday, and I have exams coming up next week so I'm really hoping whichever GP I speak to tomorrow will prescribe me ondansetron so I can get on top of the sickness. The only thing that really helps at the moment is complete rest which just is not possible with a three-year-old and work.

I feel so guilty that my husband is taking on everything around the house and looking after DD, and guilty that I'm not spending much time with DD. I just wanted to hop on board for a bit of support from others who know the horror of HG, if it wasn't for really not wanting DD to be our only living child I wouldn't be going through this again, and if this pregnancy ends I'm really not sure I can face another.

BalletN · 02/06/2022 15:34

@MerryHen Sorry to hear about the loss of your son. I'm also on my 4th pregnancy. I have a 3 year old boy and had 2 miscarriages. I understand the guilt about not being able to play and my husband is so tired too from taking on all the housework and childcare. Do you have any other family that can help? I hope you can get ondansetron easily.

@ElephantGrey101 I hope your son is better soon.

@imsoscared2022 Sorry you are having such an awful time. HG is hell. Have you tried contacting Pregnancy Sickness Support for advice? Sending hugs.

KatieJayne86 · 02/06/2022 19:35

ChloeHel · 02/06/2022 08:22

Have you had any update about xonvea? absolutely nothing on my end.

How are you managing without?

Absolutely nothing. I think I'm at the point of giving up now. I'm on 8mg ondansetron in the morning and again in the evening. Vomitting controlled but nausea high! How about you?

LucindaE · 03/06/2022 17:25

Back again. Wonderful advice from BalletN, ChloeHel and others. Thank you, I had a nice time. Welcome to MerryHen I am sorry for your losses. Do you find that an anti acid helps with the sickness? You are so much more of a veteran than I, that I am hesitant to offer advice, but many say how much it helps, and Melleebacca also said half a teaspoonful of calcium powder helped her acidity. Can they add or substitute any meds to help? I didn't go for it again, which I regret, but from what I've seen on these threads, LO's tend to forget this period of comparative neglect very quickly. A sibling is a priceless gift.
Babyraymama Welcome. I so agree with others. Taking the meds regularly makes them more effective. It is unfortunate that doctor gave you that advice. Dr's don't prescribe anti emetics unless they judge that the dangers of dehydration outweigh the tiny risks of the meds. Might it be worth phoning up Pregnancy Sickness Support 024 7638 2020 for reassurance?
ElepantGrey101 Sorry about relapse, and I hope LO gets better soon. I'm glad it gave you a boost to see your due date, anyway.
ChloeHel and KatieJayne18 It's really bad that there's just no supply of Xonvea at all to hand.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

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LucindaE · 03/06/2022 17:30

i'msoscared2022 Sorry, my message was truncated, and cut off the bit for you. Much sympathy. I so agree with others; it might be an idea to phone Pregnancy Sickness Support on 024 7638 2020 for emotional support?

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FateHasRedesignedMost · 04/06/2022 14:18

Hi everyone, just popping back to let you know I reached the Pink Castle… and this time the HG symptoms cleared up within a week of my c-section 😊

Thank you so much Lucinda and everyone else for all your support ❤️

My daughter was born almost 4 weeks ago, by emergency c-section as I went into labour early. I lost a lot of blood then had an allergic reaction, so they kept us in for a week. She was 5lb7 at birth and lost weight so had to follow a feeding plan, but she’s now 7lbs4 and we’re both doing well!

She’s an absolute delight and worth every second of HG suffering 💕

Hang in there ladies, it seems forever when you’re in the worst part but it’s temporary. Once you have your baby in your arms the memories of the sickness start to fade and a new chapter begins 😊

LucindaE · 04/06/2022 19:38

FateHasRedesignedMost Thank you so muchStarBrewCakeWink. Lovely news. I am so glad that the Hypermesis has now gone. Flowers Congratulations on baby. Enjoy her. It is horrible when the Hyperemesis doesn't clear up immediately after birth, but I am so glad that it is has cleared up for you earlier than last time. Thank you so much for your message of encouragement. Welcome to the Pink Castle. Isn't it marvellous? Thank you so much for your message of support.

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ChloeHel · 05/06/2022 08:56

KatieJayne86 · 02/06/2022 19:35

Absolutely nothing. I think I'm at the point of giving up now. I'm on 8mg ondansetron in the morning and again in the evening. Vomitting controlled but nausea high! How about you?

Do you think your symptoms were better controlled on Xonvea?

I ran out 2 days ago and have gone cold turkey! So far I’ve been sick once…so im hoping I may manage. But I have got Cariban that I purchased from Spain as a back up just in case I have a bad turn.

I don’t think xonvea will ever come back :(

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