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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 26/03/2022 18:45

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/topics/nausea-vomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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Thestruggleisreal8 · 29/04/2022 19:21

And apologies if it’s already been suggested!

LucindaE · 30/04/2022 21:38

Thestruggleisreal That's fascinating about the magnesium. It'll be wonderful
if it works as much for others. Thanks for posting the suggestion.
ChloeHel Hopefully, they will be able to suggest a way.

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ohCARP · 30/04/2022 21:58

@Thestruggleisreal8 I really wish I'd known about magnesium before. I have a bottle of magnesium spray in my bedside table. If only I'd known when I was bed bound 😩 I'm going to start using it now for nausea though!

ohCARP · 01/05/2022 10:43

The sickness bug has got us. Daughter had it Friday Saturday and has just been sick again. Husband caught it last night. I'm just waiting for my turn now. So much sick. So much washing 😩

Jani92 · 01/05/2022 12:12

Hey all new to mumsnet and this thread! I have my 12 week scan next week so patiently waiting for this while I deal with the worst possible HG, I have been put on 25mg of promethazine and still have to be spend atleast 2 days a week puking what feels like my literal guts out, as well as constantly feeling nauseaus. Surely being on medication should be making me feel better. Is it worth asking my GP for different meds? TIA!

Weathergirl1 · 01/05/2022 15:53

@Jani92 if you don't feel they're working, go back and get the medication reviewed. I'd been on Stemitil for about 3 weeks or so and it was mostly stopping the vomiting but all day nausea was still there. I've just been prescribed ondansetron and it is making a difference to the nausea - I actually woke up feeling nearly normal yesterday morning for the first time in quite a long time and I actually did some exercise this morning - my mood has totally lifted. Different medications seem to work for different people so I reckon it's worth speaking to your GP again. I wish I had sooner now (15 weeks tomorrow...).

Jani92 · 01/05/2022 17:35

Oooft thanks @Weathergirl1 , I think I'll have to speak to my GP after the bank holiday. I would do anything to wake up feeling normal, thought I got lucky with the promethazine when I first started them but the sickness and nausea is taking a turn for the worst recently is the ondansetron drowsy?

Weathergirl1 · 01/05/2022 18:13

@Jani92 no, but can cause constipation... Thankfully I already had a bottle of lactulose but I've still not 'been' since taking it on Friday evening 😬. I wasn't feeling drowsy with either cyclizine or stemitil either. Was initially prescribed promezathine on Thursday but it turned out the tablets were blue in the dose they prescribed so I couldn't have them due to allergies to colours.

I was warned it might not stop the nausea though, so I don't want to get your hopes up. I am on the lowest dose at the moment.

Jani92 · 01/05/2022 20:02

@Weathergirl1 I think im ready to face any bouts of constipation thrown at me, I can no longer lay in bed and try to sleep off the urge to vomit as I am literally bed bound 24/7. Honestly I feel like such a drama queen at this point when I explain how I feel to family members. I also go away on Friday and honestly am dreading a car journey and flight like this. Wish me luck on getting some new meds, I hope the lactulose kicks in for you soon but I can imagine you're enjoying the normality of not being sick to care about the constipation 😆

LucindaE · 01/05/2022 20:34

Welcome to Jani92. You've already had great advice. I hope the new meds help more than the current ones,what with your going away. I hope that is a 'flight'' rather than a fight, lol? Only joking; I'm dreadful at making typos myself, being dyslexic. Here is my normal spiel, which I hope helps. Ignore the parts which don't apply, obviously. Sufferers find that they improve a lot at some point between weeks 14 and 20, or sometimes later. Even those who are unlucky enough to suffer throughout generally are not as ill later on as they are in the first part. A good anti acid can make a surprising difference to the sickness. Kesostix are worth buying online or from a chemists, as while they aren't they best test of dehydration, hospitals take them seriously.When reporting on the vomiting to doctors, remember to emphasize the number of heaves in each vomiting session, as doctors tend to count these as 'vomits' and this can lead to their underestimating the severity of your symptoms. Besides drinking through a straw, here are some drinks that have helped others: full sugar flat coke (if you don't find it too acid), ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, Vimto, Lucozade, apple juice, Ribina, Dr Pepper, soda water, Elderflower water, tonic water, ice cubes, Iron Bru, lemonade, lemon squash, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), fizzy orange (M and S has been recommende), 7Up, isotonic drinks, sips of strawberry or chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), fizzy water, apple juice, Robinson's fruit drinks, Rubicon sparkling mango drink , raspberry Lucozade sport and frozen ice cubes of flat Lucozade sport. Also, pink lemonade , cloudy lemonade and Sprite. Foods of a sort include tinned fruit, cuppa soup, nibbles of crisps and chips, cheap ice cream, Scotch pancakes, bagels and biscuits, potato smileys, minature salty Yorkshire Puddings , dry cereals and slices of melon and mango. Protein drinks have also been mentioned.
ohCARP That sounds awful. That bug obviously lingers about, too. Much sympathy. I hope you escape it.
Weathergirl91 Great advice. Sorry about persistent nausea.

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Snowwhite2020 · 02/05/2022 06:44

Morning everyone, I was on this thread with my previous pregnancy and found the support indispensable. Unfortunately I suffered HG with that pregnancy and posted here a while back when I knew we were trying again and felt scared about the HG coming back. I am now just over 5 weeks pregnant and on what I think was the 5th week day I started feeling much more intense nausea and last night was violently sick three times…

I will phone the doctor tomorrow to discuss meds. I put off taking them last time because I really struggled mentally to take medication while pregnant but the symptoms just become too awful. Again, this time I feel a strong aversion to taking meds again but I know I will have to and also this time I have a job to contend with (last time was Covid).

Anyway, feeling pretty scared about the next few weeks and months.

Hope everyone else is not doing too badly this morning xx

UncomfortableBadger · 02/05/2022 09:13

Hi all
Just posting in case it’s useful for any others here who have been suffering similarly.

I’m now 30 weeks & have had horrible sickness and nausea since week 5, with indigestion and heartburn added to the fun since week 20. The normal pattern is that I’ve been woken at 4am most mornings with a churning stomach and nausea, then throwing up stomach acid from 6am for a few hours. Some days it randomly kicks back in throughout the day.

The midwives, GP and hospital registrar that I spoke to about it all brushed it off & said that it was unfortunately just “normal” for some pregnant women, even at this stage. It’s been getting worse rather than better.

However I went to see a new consultant a fortnight ago for my growth scan results & she was fab - she reckons that my sickness is caused by excess relaxin causing my stomach muscles to not work properly, with huge amounts of stomach acid being allowed to come back up (hence the daily churning in the early hours & copious vomiting of stomach acid). After 5 days of Omeprazole, it’s more or less completely stopped. No vomiting, no retching, no indigestion. Nothing.

I’m so grateful to the lovely new consultant but equally, SO miffed that I’ve gone through a really crappy 30 weeks when this could’ve been relieved entirely early on. I’d explained the pattern & type of vomiting to the midwives, GP etc & nobody twigged.

Just mentioning here in case useful for anybody else!

PopGoesBang · 02/05/2022 16:41

Hi all, quick question I have my glucose test tomorrow, am I ok to take my Ondansetron in the morning before it?
It says no antacids but that essential meds are ok. I'm there at 8.20 so I guess I could check with them and then see.

Hope everyone is doing ok

Melleebacca · 02/05/2022 18:54

@PopGoesBang yes. Take your meds. You’re going to need them. The glucose test is atrocious and always makes me extremely nauseous. Have safe foods and drinks in the car for afterwards too.

PopGoesBang · 02/05/2022 19:07

Thank you @Melleebacca - you've said what I was thinking so that's great. Annoyingly I have 3 appts tomorrow. One is a phone appt with a specialist midwife (no idea!) and one with the hand trauma clinic for my dodgy finger - but I will make sure I eat as soon as I can.
Not eating for too long is an awful trigger so I'll be asking for a bowl while there.

Hope you are doing ok, almost in the last weeks for you now? My dd is an early June baby - fingers crossed you aren't kept waiting for too long!

Melleebacca · 02/05/2022 19:21

@PopGoesBang I went back to work yesterday after the school holidays, and actually it was a really good distraction, but I felt exhausted all afternoon (luckily I only work 5hrs). I had my iron infusion last week, so I don’t need to take any oral iron for 10 days which has kinda messed up my stomach’s routine. Ended up with piles which is slowly healing. And I am just fed up with the limited food I can eat, and have been more adventurous, leading to more nausea each day. I’m just so glad there’s only approximately 4wks left.
Good luck with your glucose test, it really is hard. Tell the nurses you have HG, so they are more sympathetic and keep a better eye on you.

PopGoesBang · 02/05/2022 19:25

@Melleebacca you're on the home run now, and fingers firmly crossed you can soon enjoy all the food once baby is here and not suffer.
Pregnancy really is the gift that keeps giving isn't it. I hope everything else settles and the last stretch is as comfortable as it can be (if that's possible!)
Thank you, I'll let them know, and hope for the best. Charging my kindle up, hoping I can distract myself with a good book.

LucindaE · 02/05/2022 20:14

SnowWhite Sorry to hear it's starting again. Nobody wants to take meds in pegnancy, but the risks of prolonged dehydration are far worse than the minimal ones from the meds.Hopefully, you will be prescribed something that makes it all more bearable.
UncomfortableBadger Thanks so much for that message. That must be the scientific explanation behind my anecdotal advice 'a good anti acid can make a surprising diffrence.' Glad things are a bit better now since seeing that consultant.
PopGoesBang All luck. I wonder why anti-acids are precluded, but other meds allowed?
Melleebacca Congratulations on being able to work at all. It's been a long haul and some - like that colleague you mentioned a few weeks ago - haven't made it any easier.

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Sicksmellymess · 03/05/2022 14:53

@ChloeHel I got a reply about Xonvea stock, I only have 4 days left 😭

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ajb22 · 03/05/2022 15:16

Hey guys. Haven't posted in a while because last week I was doing good! I started feeling more normal my first midwife appointments went amazing I actually wasn't sick for days just felt it occasionally! My blood pressure is a bit of a mess but apart from that I was doing well... Sunday I dropped completely. Was so badly sick Monday I couldn't leave my bed and I've been the same today.

I just feel so depressed, like how do you guys cope so amazing? And lots of you have other babies to look after! I have bits to do like order a new bed a clear my room out... how the hell am I gonna do that when I feel so weak! Im probs over worrying but still.

I have my 12 week scan next Friday. But some reason im so nervous. I've already seen the heartbeat twice and they said it was a strong healthy heartbeat but still I'm so worried?... I'm clearly still feeling sick and sore boobs bad mood swings just still feel totally pregnant but I think I just after having a miscarriage you just worry yourself sick about everything. I probs will worry until the baba is here! But I'm driving myself mad, alongside feeling so ill everyday Im so down and anxious just waiting on my scan.

You guys are all so amazing I just guess I needed a rant and you guys always make me feel better n more positive! I'm sorry to anyone else suffering and sending you all my love and positive vibes ❤️❤️

ChloeHel · 03/05/2022 15:41

Sicksmellymess · 03/05/2022 14:53

@ChloeHel I got a reply about Xonvea stock, I only have 4 days left 😭

I got the exact same reply today too! I can just see this being put back week by week! The original date on my pharmacy system was 21st May so I’m going with that :(

oh no!! When are the sleep aid tablets arriving??

Its absolutely ridiculous! We finally find a tablet that works for us and it goes out of stock because they decided to sell it to another manufacturer!

Sicksmellymess · 03/05/2022 16:53

@ChloeHel I’m going to go by that date too because I bet even when they get stock it’ll take a while to be sent out to the pharmacies too. My Sleepaid has arrived and just going to take the first one when I run out and hope for the best but wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t work

ChloeHel · 03/05/2022 16:59

Sicksmellymess · 03/05/2022 16:53

@ChloeHel I’m going to go by that date too because I bet even when they get stock it’ll take a while to be sent out to the pharmacies too. My Sleepaid has arrived and just going to take the first one when I run out and hope for the best but wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t work

I really hope it does work for you! I mean if you split the tablet in half it’s a higher dose so might even work better! I’m just managing on one tablet atm, it’s really hard as by the evening the sickness kicks in big time, so I’m in bed and asleep by 8 every night!

Make sure you still get prescriptions from the GP so when they come back in stock you can stock up just incase they go out of stock again!

Sicksmellymess · 03/05/2022 17:07

@ChloeHel im still taking two at night as only 1 at night didn’t work for me last time I was trying to stretch them out.
im going to keep trying to get a prescription and once I know it’s back in stock I’m going to speak to the consultant on getting a longer supply as my gp was only giving me 10 days at a time

PopGoesBang · 03/05/2022 17:12

I'm sorry you ladies are having such a battle with tablets. It's really isn't helpful.

Had my glucose test this mornings and had a phone call about 4pm to say I have gestational diabetes so will be test my sugars 4 times a day once I've collected the kit. She was lovely when I said I had HG and said they would work with me to find foods that hopefully help everything. So fingers crossed.

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