All restrictions are going. I'm gutted 🥲

[Girlmama3]

Anyone terrified of catching covid more now then ever? I've had both jabs but am aware that's not full protection.

I thought this was the right year to have our last baby. If I'd known about the delta variant I would have waited 🥲

[quote Sugarroll]@Kittyswhiskers. It's not about eating - it's about spending your time and money indulging in your own pleasures while others starve/ having nothing. Is that selfish? You've been doing it all your life! Deliberately missing the point clearly! I also agree with mask wearing, social distancing (within reason) and hand hygiene. However, you also mentioned the selfishness of wanting to go to the pub. That's unhinged.

What an pathetic comment re working on a Covid ward! Not even worthy of a response!

People take the risk of driving cars which can be in accidents. Sorry but we can pamper to everyone's anxieties -we need to live our lives.[/quote]
She hasn't missed the point, it's just the points made were false equivalences that I have to assume were made in bad faith as they're not the sharpest thing to comment.

OP, you don't have to change what you're doing.

You're free to stay home, stay safe, wear a mask, do online shopping etc.

By many many many of us need to be allowed to live again, see friends, go out for meals, visit family.

If you feel safer maintaining your own restrictions then continue to do that.

Thanks to those who have backed me up.

For those who don’t care etc, don’t come back on this thread thanks.

I’m mainly worried about cases getting out of hand, my lungs are squashed already and will only get smaller as this baby grows. I’m tired, have no energy and really don’t know how I’d cope if I did get it. There is no data on pregnant women getting covid after the vaccine.

If your happy with the risks then I’m happy for you. I wish I was worry free.

I know a few women who have tested positive after the vaccine in pregnancy however this has always happened in earlier pregnancy (before 20 weeks in all three cases) and they have been okay. Unwell but not needing hospitalisation.

However, most maternity services will want to know even if you make a full recovery because Covid further increases your already increased risk of blood clots and they would probably have a much lower threshold for seeing you if you became breathless or had chest pains etc. I know one trust local to me does additional blood tests etc if you’ve had Covid at any point in pregnancy.

@MeowPurr but you can already!

For some reason this scene from The Office comes to mind....

Im 30 weeks pregnant today.

Do I feel anxious/scared about covid? Not really no. I’ve had a jab, second dose in a few weeks.

I still need to go out to work until I’m 35 weeks, using public transport. I still plan on being sociable and seeing friends and family and getting shopping and hair done etc before life forever and I have tiny baby.

I am sorry to all those feeling anxious, it must be very hard. But I didn’t expect to be told to shut myself away nor do I have any wish to.

Are non pregnant women seriously coming onto a pregnancy thread (e.g. specifically FOR pregnant women) to pass their (grim) opinions and berate pregnant women for having the audacity to conceive during these times?! Fuck off.

OP I'm not worry free (I posted earlier) but I think you/I/everyone needs to focus on things within our control. It doesn't mean that any on here endorses the behaviour of the government or people who don't get tested when they should etc, just that it's not too helpful to focus on.

As an important (imo) aside it's not "pregnant person" as a few women have posted on this thread. If you're pregnant then presumably you have a uterus, cervix and vagina. You're a pregnant woman.

Yes I second @EssentialHummus.

Pregnant WOMAN please, there is no other term.

@SmidgenofaPigeon

Im 30 weeks pregnant today.

Do I feel anxious/scared about covid? Not really no. I’ve had a jab, second dose in a few weeks.

I still need to go out to work until I’m 35 weeks, using public transport. I still plan on being sociable and seeing friends and family and getting shopping and hair done etc before life forever and I have tiny baby.

I am sorry to all those feeling anxious, it must be very hard. But I didn’t expect to be told to shut myself away nor do I have any wish to.

Good job no one told you too then!

@baldafrique 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

I am 36 weeks and anxious too, but taking all the precautions I can. I’m fortunate that I’ve stopped working now but my role is client facing, I would be worried about work being back to normal- whilst I can wear a mask, my clients wouldn’t have to, nor keep a distance- that’s what would concern me. Those who are anxious have no guidance to rely on so you’re relying on the goodwill of your employers and clients/customers. (Also in my nct group we’ve had an early delivery because mum ((unvaccinated)) caught covid. Baby okay and delivery only early by a few weeks, but mum on covid ward not with baby, not trying to make people anxious but there is a risk there and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to worry)

@minatrina yeah, that’s what I mean?

But clearly a lot of pregnant women were expecting to be told they would need to shield.

OP - what exactly would you rather happened?
The economy, the country, our lives need to get going. We can't possibly expect this to all be put on hold because we're pregnant.
You've been double jabbed, that offers excellent protection.
Look, you have more risk of being in a car accident driving your car than being seriously ill through Covid, if you are otherwise healthy and having an normal pregnancy.

@baldafrique 👌🏼

[quote SmidgenofaPigeon]@minatrina yeah, that’s what I mean?

But clearly a lot of pregnant women were expecting to be told they would need to shield.[/quote]
Whoops - Sorry, I may have misread your post then. I thought you were a part of the crowd who have decided that OP is saying that everybody should be in lockdown for all eternity, rather than simply expressing her concerns.

Again sorry if I misread! I was probably a bit eager to comment as I'm just sick of regularly seeing people twisting the concerns of those who are feeling anxious about covid still

@minatrina no worries at all. I do get there’s a lot of uncertainty/anxiety out there, and I don’t think it’s helpful posters jumping on when they’re not even pregnant themselves at all. I do think there’s some perspective needed here too though. If OP is not due until November and has both jabs, she’s really well protected so really it is up to her if she wants to be hyper-vigilant about risks from covid. I am just pointing out that there are lots of other pregnant women who aren’t in a state of panic about restrictions lifting.

@Girlmama3

The new guidance has been released for vulnerable people but you’re only included if pregnant with another health condition. They’re pretty crap tbh. Don’t mix with unvaccinated or go to busy places.

I guess they want as many vaccinated as possible so will scare us into it.

I’ll stick to what I’m doing now. No indoor visits, masks, hand hygiene and will hope for the best.

The guidance is so unclear. So stay away from busy places and go when it’s quiet? How does that work when most have a job to go to? I can’t avoid being indoors and in a busy environment whilst at work.

It feels like the most vulnerable in society are being thrown to the wolves and it’s survival of the fittest.

Nobody is asking for an indefinite lockdown.

Asking anyone who is vulnerable to stay inside so everyone else can go out isn’t fair though.

Why can’t mask wearing continue? Do you work in a shop - maybe ask your manager if you could do a quiet hour for the vulnerable? Same for other attractions. Think about what you can do to help - there are lots of people who are going to be feeling anxious and frightened and pregnant women aren’t all of them!

Also, asking anyone who is vulnerable to avoid crowds and indoors etc but who also works - what are we supposed to think? That work isn’t safe but we have to go anyway or we don’t get paid? I’m baffled by now insensitive people are being. The guidance isn’t clear for anyone who’s in good health with no risk factors. Think for a minute how it feels to be this anxious!!

@girlmama3 completely with you. You (and I and anyone else) are perfectly entitled to be upset. It is a scary time covid not withstanding anyway, being pregnant. I had my first jab last month and was abused on social media by an ex colleague who told me that I am killing my baby and I should be disgusted with myself - exactly what you need to hear after making such a hard decision.

Also to add for me, I have asthma so am already vulnerable to severe covid symptoms. My asthma has also got worse during my pregnancy. Even when I've had my second jab I don't think I will relax. My DH is a teacher too which adds another level of worry.

I feel like the anxiety of it all is not helping me or my baby.

I work patient facing on a busy ward that has a mix of Covid and non Covid patients (positive patients isolated). It is impossible for me to social distance from my patients, and most of my patients are unvaccinated too.

But apparently after 28 having a reduced lung capacity doesn’t matter anymore.

Pregnant women are still as vulnerable as they were during the first and second wave - the statistics show that the rate of premature birth or still born birth is 2-3 times increased if the mother contracts Covid in the 3rd trimester.

Even with a vaccination, any person with a reduced lung capacity is going to have trouble with a viral illness.

I now presume that I have to continue working patient facing till I go on mat leave at 36 weeks which quite frankly is terrifying for me considering that will be into the winter months.

As for everyone else saying ‘you chose to get pregnant in a pandemic’! Not all of us have the luxury of time on our side when it comes to conceiving.

@confidentialitybreach have your trust changed their guidance on wfh?

the statistics show that the rate of premature birth or still born birth is 2-3 times increased if the mother contracts Covid in the 3rd trimester.

Where are these stats? Can you link them please?

@Kittyswhiskers

They are basically saying it is our choice if we stay on patient facing, but there isn’t another role that I can be redeployed to at present so I can’t see that I have much choice.

The RCOG guidance still states that we should either be office based or WFH but that isn’t possible for me.