All restrictions are going. I'm gutted 🥲

[Girlmama3]

Anyone terrified of catching covid more now then ever? I've had both jabs but am aware that's not full protection.

I thought this was the right year to have our last baby. If I'd known about the delta variant I would have waited 🥲

There are some horrible people on here and judgemental to boot, it isn't an aibu board! Op is pregnant and anxious a little bit of empathy would go a long way. That being said op you are double jabbed just because England is opening up again doesn't mean you need to. So if you use public transport still wear a mask, avoid indoor busy places or wear a mask and do your best to social distance, don't meet up with more than one family at a time. People do have the right to live their lives and we would have to open up some time.

I do not think we will have another lockdown as hospitalisations and deaths are not correlating with the number of people testing positive. If they were it would be a different story. It would be political suicide for Boris and people just wouldn't stick with another lockdown again.

I'm pregnant too, due in 7 weeks and have only had one jab. I'm taking all the above precautions and I worked in healthcare in a patient facing role up until I was signed off sick. I don't begrudge things opening up but have to take due diligence myself as should we all.

Current advice is that nhs staff work from home from 28 weeks too. I’m a nurse and I’m glad. Waiting to become pregnant wasn’t an option for me, I’m 33 and 3 years ago my FSH was already too high, almost 10. I’m incredibly lucky to be pregnant, and waiting for the pandemic/virus to disappear wasn’t an option. I should be able to feel comfortable during the pandemic, it isn’t being unreasonable!

@Kittyswhiskers well done for all you have done through the pandemic being a nurse!
There is a post on the pregnancy group literally stating it’s our own fault for having a baby in a pandemic. I honestly don’t know where humanity has gone.
Things opening isn’t the issue for me, it’s the social distancing and masks, because I can’t control how close people come to me… I can’t control my children not catching it either. I’m allowed to feel anxious till the baby is here, like I’m allowed to feel anxious when my baby doesn’t move like normal, or anxious that she will be healthy at the end because of other normal complications that can arise. Let alone Covid.

Hi ladies, has there been any new guidance released for the vulnerable/pregnant women yet?

That’s kind @Tinydancer321 thank you, and you’re welcome!! I’m really proud of the nhs and it’s staff. The government frustrate me so much, we’ve had an awful time and now I just want to enjoy the pregnancy, it’s my last - it isn’t too much to ask? What pisses me off is thag you can sit in pubs unmasked and unvaccinated but all our children have missed out on SO much this year. I think it’s an absolute joke.

@Leo090813 not yet, the rcog guidelines were in March I think and haven’t been updated since.

@Kittyswhiskers supposedly today they will talk about vulnerable we will see.
This is my last too, I’m waiting for my second jab.
Like you I feel gutted for the kids I couldn’t see their sports day yet lots of people got to go to the match. I will be so annoyed if this effects the kids next term.
There are things we can do to protect each other, which isn’t asking for to much.

Wow well that will be interesting. How many weeks are you? I’m 22, and currently off sick with SPD. I’ve been trying to muddle my way through til I can work at home til 28 weeks but to be honest none of my colleagues are fussed because they can all start going out and stuff. I feel like I’ve been a bit forgotten. It’s a really worrying time.

Will it be the government or rcog do you know who are discussing this?

OP - completely feel you. I'm 31 weeks today, have had my first jab and still terrified. Mostly about having to give birth on my own or with restrictions in the hospital for covid reasons. I get that they need to unlock, that's fine, and lovely that we can try and return to a 'new normal' but I think it's so normal to be scared. DH and I went for breakfast last weekend and there were people coughing and I had a panic attack at the thought I might get covid. I know the risks are still fairly low right now but it's what I'll be like in the next few weeks that worries me. X

I think you are overestimating your risk OP. You are double jabbed - yes you can still get infected but even the chance of anything severe happening to non- vaccinated pregnant women are very low. People who are "terrified" have definitely lost perspective. I agree masks should stay and some distancing but I am also pregnant and double vaccinated and understand we can't live like this forever. There will always be pregnant women around and there will always be Covid. Any time restrictions are lifted, cases will rocket. The vast majority of people, pregnant or not, will be fine. Like every illness and every other risk we run in normal life.

The new guidance has been released for vulnerable people but you’re only included if pregnant with another health condition. They’re pretty crap tbh. Don’t mix with unvaccinated or go to busy places.

I guess they want as many vaccinated as possible so will scare us into it.

I’ll stick to what I’m doing now. No indoor visits, masks, hand hygiene and will hope for the best.

No one can over estimate their risk especially when they’re pregnant and responsible for their own life as well as baby’s. I’ve seen healthy 20 year olds on ventilators so whether the risk is small or not it’s there, and it’s not very reassuring that everyone and their dog is bothered about their holiday or their pub trip or Wembley but generally not keeping others safe. I’m not fussed about keeping things closed but I AM bothered about people’s attitudes. ‘I’m alright Jack’ because they have no health conditions etc therefore why should I bother to wash or gel my hands or wear a mask? The pandemic has truly shown who is selfish and who isn’t.

Yabu. You protect yourself as you see necessary but you can't expect restrictions to go on for ever.

OP - that's because you aren't seen as particularly vulnerable if you don't have an underlying condition along with your pregnancy. You should be pleased you aren't seen as at risk as you thought as that should give you reassurance.

@Kittyswhiskers there are risks in everything. Are you selfish for using your car as it can put others at risk? Pregnant people (like me) are choosing to get on with life and have a baby. Other people who aren't pregnant also want to get on with life by socialising and connecting with others. Life can be so bleak with nothing to do or look forward to. It's not selfish to try to continue with life and enjoy it. Did you consider yourself as selfish in the past when you spent time and money on yourself instead of helping starving children in other countries? I think not. We are all human and it's absolutely not selfish to want to live your life after over a year of restrictions. There has always been risk, always been death and we have always had to run those risks. Would you suggest a 2 year restriction (longer?) on people's lives even when the vast.majority have been vaccinated and all vulnerable have been offered a vaccine? That's just unhinged and hysterical I'm afraid.

See I’m not double Vax. I’m 30 weeks, only had my first over a week ago.
I feel the risks of catching Covid are the highest they have been. Yes the lowest death rate for those vaccinated.
However at the moment 1/160 on average have it. Where I am the numbers are getting really high. That’s was before restrications.
More and more people will catch it, lots will have no symptoms thanks to vaccine so won’t know to test. Kids tbh we don’t know if they have it or not in most. It will spread very quickly.
So if we are not double Vac may feel poorly, and they test you when giving birth so if your positive get to
Enjoy the birth on our own. 🤦🏼‍♀️.
On the other side what will they do if to many Heath professionals catch it?

@Kittyswhiskers

No one can over estimate their risk especially when they’re pregnant and responsible for their own life as well as baby’s. I’ve seen healthy 20 year olds on ventilators so whether the risk is small or not it’s there, and it’s not very reassuring that everyone and their dog is bothered about their holiday or their pub trip or Wembley but generally not keeping others safe. I’m not fussed about keeping things closed but I AM bothered about people’s attitudes. ‘I’m alright Jack’ because they have no health conditions etc therefore why should I bother to wash or gel my hands or wear a mask? The pandemic has truly shown who is selfish and who isn’t.

Could not agree more with this. I think most others agree with you too deep down but don't want to admit it to themselves, so instead lash out at a worried pregnant woman with accusations that she's trying to stop their divinely appointment freedom to go and mingle with strangers without a mask.

If the rules say you don't have to wear a mask, then fine don't wear one. You're within your rights. But other people are also within their rights to think you're selfish and uncaring, and they're also within their rights to be concerned about their infection risk and act accordingly.

I have asthma but don’t think that’s seen as a condition?

I’m not asking for restrictions to not be loosened, but to not worry about masks seems silly. Also the plans for school will never work. I would of rather of seen schools properly open before us adults can cram in a pub.

@minatrina 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@SW1amp

Sadly due to my age, I was pregnant when my vaccine window opened and I wasn't prepared to put my unborn child at risk.

Do you mean you haven’t had the vaccine?

You realise that puts your unborn child at far greater risk than having the vaccine, right..?

Many, many women were pregnant when covid was rife in the community, and there was no vaccine! (Including myself). Stop scaring pregnant women.

My sister is in her 30's and currently having chemotherapy for her incurable cancer. Her children are still going to school and coming home. She is at risk all the time of covid.

As much as I understand a lot your concerns (as a pregnant person too) I think you need to put things a little into perspective...

No, I don’t consider myself selfish for eating when there are others starving starving myself wouldn’t achieve much would it?

What I DO think is selfish are those saying they won’t social distance, wear a mask and wash their hands. The risk of me driving my car when pregnant is not the same risk as being unwell when pregnant if I caught Covid.

Unhinged and hysterical? Have you worked on a covid ward? If not, come back to me when you have.

@Kittyswhiskers on another thread I have just read this comment “the nhs is acting as a barrier for life” 😂🤦🏼‍♀️

@Kittyswhiskers. It's not about eating - it's about spending your time and money indulging in your own pleasures while others starve/ having nothing. Is that selfish? You've been doing it all your life! Deliberately missing the point clearly! I also agree with mask wearing, social distancing (within reason) and hand hygiene. However, you also mentioned the selfishness of wanting to go to the pub. That's unhinged.

What an pathetic comment re working on a Covid ward! Not even worthy of a response!

People take the risk of driving cars which can be in accidents. Sorry but we can pamper to everyone's anxieties -we need to live our lives.

Not worthy Of a response eh? Touched a nerve? Fairly sure that means you haven’t. Which means you haven’t seen what I have seen and you can’t possibly ever understand because people like you just don’t want to 🤷‍♀️