Gender confusion? Pics included.

[essexanon]

Hey all.

So yesterday I had a private gender scan (16+5) and they said Boy.
But both nub experts and nub techs said girl.
We have had our heart set on a girl and to be honest, I left the scan a little disappointed (please don’t judge)

But I’ve read girls parts can be swollen?
Has anyone been told ‘boy’ and it’s really a ‘girl’?
Maybe I’m just looking for hope that at my 20wk NHS scan, they are going to tell me girl. I know it sounds silly.

Xx

My read on it is we are forcing stereotypes on young people with all the pink brain/blue brain crap

Pink brain and blue brain have always been around but mental health issues in young people are rising each year. The gender neutral trend may have started out with the best of intentions but it's gone too far now. Mental health issues and suicide rates amongst young people are actually on the rise so something isn't right.

My read on it is th at we're forcing labels onto kids who don't know who they are.
Kids need direction, they need an identity. It's nothing to do with stereotypes but completely denying their gender , making out its a negative thing to be a boy or a girl and ignoring their differences isn't working.

Kids need direction, they need an identity. It's nothing to do with stereotypes but completely denying their gender , making out its a negative thing to be a boy or a girl and ignoring their differences isn't working

I don’t think any one is doing that. But take any two kids and there will be differences- whether they are the same sex or not. If a girl is good at maths why would you tell her girls are better at arts and she should study those, purely because she’s a girl?

What I mean when I disagree with stereotyping is that it should be fine for a boy to do ballet lessons, or a girl to not get her eyebrows and nails done.

All I am saying is treat the child in front of you according to their own unique personality. I am absolutely going to support my son in any activity or anything at all, whether it’s “for girls” or not. I am not telling him he has to be gender neutral, but that he can like ballet and still be a “proper boy”.

Don’t try and squidge them into a box they don’t fit in because all the other girls/boys do and they must fit too.

@bluebluezoo the majority of what you're saying is exactly the same as what I've been saying too....I too disagree with outdated stereotyping and think we should be encouraging each individual child to be whoever they want to be. If that's a boy wanting to do ballet or ice skating, so what? If it's a girl playing rugby or football, so what? No child should be squished into a box or forced to be a certain way just because it's 'how boys (or girls) should be'

I believe there are 2 sets of differences which both need to be acknowledged and nurtured to raise a healthy, happy child: one is the difference between every single unique child and their own lovely little personalities regardless of gender; the other is the physical, biological differences between the two sexes. I don't think either should be denied or ignored.

Maybe not you, but other posters on this thread have argued that the latter doesn't exist which I simply don't agree with.

I personally think we should be striving for gender equality and equal opportunities rather than obsessing over the 'gender neutral' trend.

This thread is gone off the grid.

Jesus christ why cant everyone else just let people live to their own opinions or standards? Why do people try and force their own opinions on people?

If you want to give pink/blue things to a child - great.
If you dont - also great.

@sel2223 the idea that boys and girls have different learning styles (!) is certainly not mainstream pedagogical practice, at least not in this country (I'm in the uk), I can't speak for anywhere else. If a teacher were to routinely treat the boys and girls in their classes differently (as two disparate groups) they would be violating the teaching standards. You have hopefully misunderstood your friends who are teachers - otherwise I just hope they don't practise those tenets because they won't be able to hold down a job easily here.

Has this been resurrected again? 🙈

@Umberta you misunderstand my point. Obviously teachers don't treat boys and girls differently in the classroom, that goes without saying. Anyone working with kids and young people should have an UNDERSTANDING of different learning styles and speeds between the sexes as well as between each individual child to do their job well though, surely? And certainly not a complete denial of any differences?
(they are amazing teachers that hold down jobs in the UK just fine but thank you for your concern)

This has gone off on such a tangent....we were talking about parents having a different relationship with a son or daughter....as in, a mother and adult son or mother and adult daughter for example.
Some people think that's not the case, others (like myself) think there is a difference.
When asked to explain why a relationship would be different, I used the example that boys and girls often think differently, react differently, have different emotions etc....then the gender neutral mafia went off on a 'you're making it up', 'prove it', 'no evidence exists' tangent and here we are 😂

For the millionth time, I think boys and girls are wonderful, neither sex is superior to the other and no kid should ever be held back or stopped from doing something because of gender. I think the actual differences in their brains could be a reason for the different relationships.....one is not closer or better than the other, I just think they're different

My God, can I not just have a different opinion?
Every reply I've posted i've said 'I believe', 'my opinion', 'my view', 'I think'....why do people get so offended by a difference in opinion?

Looks like a boy to me!