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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 07/02/2019 13:25

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.

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Reastie · 23/02/2019 11:45

Lacey give them a call and see what they say. If they have the facilities and are able to help they may be able to even if you’re not officiallystill in early pg.

Eal that’s really annoying. So if a sneeze can cause it I assume it coukd keep happening? Is it something they could arrange for your gp surgery to have some of the injections so a nurse there coukd give it to you to save you going to hospital every time?

norbert23 · 23/02/2019 12:50

Hope you're all feeling better soon and can get rest and fluids and whatever else will take the edge off for you!
I'm experimenting with slightly less cyclizine after talking through all the diarrhoea etc with the doctor but I've got a feeling I need to choose which one is worse - the sickness or the endless trips to the toilet! I'm hoping I can just power through the next few weeks and then I'll be a bit closer to dropping the dose anyway, pretty sure I was more normal by 20/24 weeks last time ish.
The sun is out and my happy girl is at her granny's and playing with her cousins so no guilt today, then she's swimming so I fully intend on a big sleep after being awake for hours last night feeling awful. Back at work Monday too - a phased return though so I reckon I'll be sent home by dinner to rest. I miss being normal!

Blii · 23/02/2019 12:57

Oh gosh eallison88 that’s so frustrating for you Hope you get some sleep now.
Lacey I would definitely call the midwife number, they can put you through to the correct place. 111 just read off a script and I doubt they would know a single thing about HG. Unfortunately in my area the only way to get admitted and get the iv fluids is to have that wait in A&E. FWIW though, they do call you in order of severity and dehydration in pregnancy is looked at as pretty serious. So hopefully you won’t be waiting too long.
The first time I went to A&E this pregnancy I walked in and it was absolutely packed. To the point there was no where to sit. But I’d only been there about 5 or 10 minutes and I got called through.
Hope you get the fluids you need.

Who’s got pets? This morning we visited the in-laws and I just collapsed on their sofa and their cat came to see me. This cat usually scarpers when we arrive as the kids run around and create noise and what not but today the cat stayed with me, as if he knew I’m not well and I stroked him the whole time, it actually made me feel a little bit better! Like animal therapy. I love cats and I’ve told my husband I’d love to have one. If only we didn’t live in a little top floor flat Sad.

norbert23 · 23/02/2019 13:03

Both my cats have been hanging out with me the whole time I've been ill & in bed. Cat biscuit breath hasn't been as much fun but the company has 😀 I think it's more that they crave a bit of attention while my 3 year old is out of the house though than their psychic nursing skills 😂

beforeihit30 · 23/02/2019 13:25

Lacey evuscha eallison really hope you’re all feeling better soon Flowers

Blii I have two cats who keep coming upstairs. They don’t normally as they’re banned from the bedrooms, always have been, they’re lovely but if they roll about on the bed - which they would! - it makes DH itchy and sneezy, whereas the rest of the time he’s fine with cats. But they’re very curious about the fact that I now basically live up here Grin my bedroom door often gets left open so they keep coming to the threshold to have a nose. They still love DH more than me though!

Feeling a bit meh, haven’t had a great week and like others have said, weather keeps being lovely! I want to go outside, do stuff, but I just can’t Sad I haven’t been able to spend much time in the living room either, I’ve slept a lot. DH and the DCs are lovely, will come and be with me sometimes, but sometimes I just need to lie alone Confused so I feel like a miserable so and so!

ppwonar · 23/02/2019 14:17

@blii my cats are very needy/loving at the best of times but one of them in particular is being very nice at the moment. He enjoys bring snuggled under a blanket with me. Half the time I think he's hiding from the 4 year old who overloves him A LOT but he doesn't need much of an excuse for a cuddle.

Blii · 23/02/2019 15:34

Aww it’s lovely to hear your cats are cuddly. Makes me wish I had a cat even more. I will have to visit the in-laws a bit more often. Grin

LucindaE · 23/02/2019 17:24

LaceyB My goodness, you sound as if you are very ill and in dire need of fluids, with all those symptoms. Do, please, take yourself to A and E, if you haven't already, tiresome as it is. Sorry to shout. The problem is that, as someone on here commented recently, dehydration causes mental confusion, so you no longer realise how ill you are. So many women on here have said 'I'm not that ill' when they are badly dehydrated.
eallison Oh no about bleeds. It is good that they are not serious, but with your blood type, what a tiresome thing about needing an injection each time.
Onlyinanemergency It is very likely only a good day - a respite - but people on here do worry about those. It is a shame.
evuscha A lot of sufferers don't get relief until after week 18, so don't despair, particularly if you have had a good phase already. Bad days and temporary relapses are unfortunately common, even when sufferers are on the mend. It might be a hormonal surge.
Beforeihit30 Bili and norbert. Cats are strange. I believe myself that they are compelled to heal people and this may be why they were associated with the 'witches' of old- for which, read 'medicine women', though of course, they do like affection too. Whenever I had a migraine our cat (sadly missed) used to lie on my head and purr. It did help and was very comforting.

Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

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LucindaE · 23/02/2019 17:25

....And ppwonar That sounds so sweet.

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avacadooo · 23/02/2019 17:35

Sorry everyone's having a crappy time! Nice you've got some feline friends!!

I need a bit of advice from a veteran mum here, I've felt crampy and like I've done a thousand sit ups, my stomach muscles are so sore and it's making me feel sicker, it's like mike Tyson has punched me in the gut. Should I be concerned or is it stuff just growing/my digestive system having a tantrum?
I feel like a corpse. 😫

eallison88 · 23/02/2019 17:51

laceyb, lucinda is absolutely right. I do hope you have gone somewhere by now, you are clearly dehydrated and unwell- and it's not something you can fix yourself.

norbert23 · 23/02/2019 18:10

@avacadooo I had something v similar this week and everything felt really sore and tender, it's eased off as I've had less diarrhoea and physical sickness so I assume it's all the strain on it. Hope it eases off for you soon x

brandyberry · 23/02/2019 21:25

Hi ladies :) I hope everybody has had a good day today.

I’m 7 weeks with my first. I’ve felt sick all day every day since last weekend, but so far today I’ve thrown up at least 12 times, can’t seem to stomach anything. I don’t want to sound pathetic, but I have no reference for what’s normal, and tbh, after just one week of this I’m already feeling pretty low. Because it’s so early, we haven’t told anybody except our parents so I guess I’m just hoping that by reaching out I’ll feel less on my own. I realise that what I’m experiencing is probably nothing compared to the rest of you so I’m sorry for the moan!

Mellymcb · 23/02/2019 21:48

Hi everyone!

I am 6 weeks +2 and have just been told I have Hyperemesis today after an emergency trip to hospital! I have been given cyclizine 3x a day but can’t start these until tomorrow about 2 hrs home from hospital and starting to feel utterly awful again 😞

Can anyone give me some advice on the best things to try eating and drinking wise please?!

beforeihit30 · 23/02/2019 22:27

Welcome brandy and that sounds well worth a moan, no need to apologise! Have you spoken with your GP yet? I think all of us are on some kind of antiemetic medication, but there are different brands and also different combinations you can take. The earlier you start treatment the more effective it can be. Plus it’s important to get it more under control, to avoid needing hospitalisation, getting dehydrated etc. If you can give yourself plenty of rest, it can be hard sometimes especially if you’re normally busy but most people find being active (even very gently) can make the sickness much worse. If you’re working, get signed off to give yourself some time.

Hi Melly you poor thing. Lucinda has a great list of trusted liquids that people can often tolerate (can’t remember all of them but full fat Coke which is flat and the juice or syrup from tinned fruit is in there, although can’t remember if it’s juice or syrup!). Personally I’ve gone with things like nibbling on crackers when I’m rough, fruit tea is working for me too at the moment. I’m on cyclizine and the first week on it really knocked me out and I still felt rough, but the group here encouraged me to see it through st least a week, and since then I’ve felt much better. I still get nausea, I still get bad days, but the vomiting is few and far between for me (maybe once or twice in a week), and retching is just occasional (eg if I try to do too much, or if I enter my kitchen because that place is currently my kryptonite!).

You both might find over time that there is a bit of a pattern to it, although it’s not exactly predictable. For me, the mornings tend to be worse, and I can only have bland and easy to eat food before 1pm - but at least I can eat that, without being sick. I usually have one day in the week where symptoms are lighter, and this tends to be mid-late week (Wed-Fri). I’m 12 weeks and hoping as I slowly move further that it might lighten up more. I can’t do much, but, I can withstand this much better than before I was on medication. I’ve been off work for 6 weeks and will only go back once I’m ready, every time I try to push myself activity-wise I get very ill (it’s taken me a while to get that into my head but better late than never!).

eallison88 · 24/02/2019 08:33

brandy is this your first pregnancy? I rememeber feeling the same with my first (currently pregannt with my second) about not knowing what was normal. I can assure you that the degree of nausea and vomiting you're talking about doesn't sound 'normal'. I strongly encourage you to get to your GP as soon as you can (like Monday morning soon at the latest!!). The earlier you get meds, the more effective they're gonna be. It also reduces the likelihood of you endingup severely dehydrated and needing hospital admission for fluids via drip to rehydrate. There is a whole load of different meds and different combos that might help. Different women finddifferent things work. What I would say is that if a medication isn't working after a couple of days, it isn't likely to, and you need to push your doctor for a different med or combo. Its really important to be proactive not reactive with hyperemesis and extreme nausea and vomiting - whichisnt always easy when you're so bloody ill!! In the first post lucinda has a whole load of suggestions for food and drink that have worked for a few women. Unfortunately it's a bit trial and error working out what works for you - my advice on that front is if you fancy it, give it a go, you never know!!

Welcome also melly. Why can't you start the cyclizine til tomorrow? All my advise from above applies to you too.

Both of you are welcome here, and will find sympathy understanding. No such thing as TMI, no such thing as too much moaning. We've all been the one moaning and filling the board with our posts at one point or another.

Oh, and REST! Please ladies, rest as much as you can. Cos it's one of the most important things you can do when fighting this.

brandyberry · 24/02/2019 11:31

@eallison88 and @beforeihit30 yes it’s my first. Thank you for your advice - it’s rrally helpful, especially with feeling like I’m not overreacting and I’m not alone.

I called out of hours this morning and I’ve got an appointment at the local primary care this afternoon. Hopefully some good will come of it.

Mellymcb · 24/02/2019 11:53

Thank you everyone! It’s my first too! I wasn’t able to start my cyclizine until this morning as I had 3 anti sickness injections while in the early pregnancy unit. I took my first does at 9am this morning and am not due the next for 8 hours so far this morning I haven’t kept any food down and only a small amount of lucozade 😞 I am not sure wether to phone back to early pregnancy or just try to grin and bear it again! My partner is concerned that I end up like I was yesterday.

norbert23 · 24/02/2019 11:55

Sorry that you're suffering @brandyberry I hope you can get a prescription from our of hours, the sooner you can "manage it" a little the better.
I've had my first night in about 10 days without multiple bouts of diarrhoea which is purely down to the fact that I can only stomach bread / toast and nesquik now. Pretty sure Cheerios we're setting it off so now I'm watching cooking shows so I can plan my ultimate meal when I finally eat properly again! Hope everyone has a good Sunday, I wish I had a roast and a big custardy pudding to look forward to 😭

eallison88 · 24/02/2019 13:38

brandy best of luck at out of hours. If they're not forthcoming with a prescription for meds, please do stand your ground - take someone with you who can fight as well if necessary. Cyclizine is very commonly used with hyperemesis. Yes, it's off label, but has been used safely by many, many women, for a good few years now. It's a good starting point.

melly was it cyclizine injections they gave you? Cyclizine is a med that works by building up a 'supply' in your body. However, I'd say if you're still unable to keep any food or drink down by tomorrow, then it's not the med for you (at least not on Its own) and you need to push for something else (either instead or in combination). Cyclizine really does help a lot of women, especially in combo with other meds, so definitely don't give up hope!!

norbert yay for a diarrhoea free night! I spent the night not sleeping and going to the loo to see if I was still bleeding. Which I am, sporadically. But the midwife said that it could take couple of a days for the bleeding to settle, so I'm trying very hard not to worry. I've made an appointment with my midwife for Friday, to talk thru my worries with her. I find her incredibly reassuring and honest. I'm still feeling regular movements, which reassures me that at very least baby's still rocking and rolling so it can be anything too awful!

Hope everyone else is making better use of the beautiful day; I've just climbed into bed for a sleep!

Reastie · 24/02/2019 14:27

Eal it must be an added worry to have the bleeding, but at least you know it’s ok. Enjoy your rest!

Norbert yay to no diarrhoea day!

Hello melly. I’d definitely give them a call and see what they say.

Hello brandy, hope the apt goes well and you get something to help you.

Well, I survived dds family birthday party this morning. I was dreading getting through it but managed. Felt very sick though and annoyingly even when I was enjoying myself and laughing (which I have done very little of these last few months)the physical act of laughing made the nausea worse . Have been in bed ever since feeling terrible. Had a sleep and thinking of sitting in the garden if I can manage it in a min as seems a shame to waste the lovely weather.

Mellymcb · 24/02/2019 14:44

@eallison88 I am not sure if it was cyclizine injections but the dr told me before I left to start in the morning Hmm

I have not had a very good afternoon the sickness seems to be back in full swing and am keeping very little down, my plan was to wait until tomorrow morning when everything is back in full swing at the hospital but also don't want to be a nuisance to them! I have no point of reference for what is "normal" and what's HG and very few of the people around me seem to understand I've been hit with it's just morning sickness and will pass a few times today!

I know it's been awful for all of you but I have found a bit of comfort in reading through the thread!

ElkieMacjibe · 24/02/2019 17:12

Hope everyone had an ok weekend, or as best one can hope for at the moment.
Question for those who have taken promethazine, does the drowsiness get better the longer you take it? I've been switched from cyclizine to it because was starting to throw up again and I feel like I'm in a very tired fog/haze (only taking it twice a day too). I'm not throwing up though so it is doing something. I can't function like this though so, sooo tired! The thought of work tomorrow is awful (I did end up telling my two bosses on Friday).

Reastie · 24/02/2019 17:52

Elkie I’m going back 8 years now as it was dd when they gave it to me. I think it did improve but took a bit longer than cyclizine to stop feeling so drugged and I don’t remember the haze fully going. I only took it for about a week though before I was swapped to cyclizine so can’t comment on what would have happened if I took it for longer. Some people use it to sleep through a flight and I think it made me more drowsy initially than cyclizine did.

Melly I wouldn’t worry about being a pain to the hospital, I’d focus on getting yourself through this however you can and if you need the hospital leaving it longer isn’t going to make things better.

norbert23 · 24/02/2019 18:16

@eallison88 I'm sorry that you're having to worry about the bleeds on top of everything else, that must be so hard. Fingers crossed the chat with your midwife helps and it settles soon x
Well done for surviving the party @Reastie that's no mean feat! I really hope you got some sunshine in the garden after all 😀
@ElkieMacjibe I had promethazine last time and felt completely drugged up and weird the entire time. At one point it was twice a day which was the worst point but it made driving and feeling "with it" impossible for the whole time. I made a point of asking for anything but that this time, luckily cyclizine is working for me. I struggle with Piriton though so it might just be me! X