Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Hi everyone, I'm de-lurking as I've just got a positive for baby no2 and am partly excited but mostly scared of how I'm going to cope through it all again with the added pressure of a toddler and a full time job.

I know pre emotive meds are meant to help but I'm quite worried about getting the right treatment from my GP, last time they were quite "eat a ginger biscuit" and tried fobbing me off so I'm considering going private to get a sympathetic ear and the right support in the hope I can actually enjoy this pregnancy more than last time. Does anyone know if that sounds feasible? I'm only a few weeks along so no nausea yet but last time it kicked in at 5 weeks until 6 months. Any advice would be very lovely xxx

If you think your GP will fob you off again then I'd go private (or switch to a different GP if that's possible), I would have gone private too if I hadn't managed to finally get the doctors to listen. Though of course it's the luck of the draw with private doctors too, they might not be any better. Definitely take print outs from the pregnancy sickness support website and any guidelines that advise early treatment with you in any case. And congrats!

norbert123 Welcome and congratulations on pregnancy number two. I do like that name. It will be worth it. I wish I had given DD a sibling. On the going private issue - I am very sorry to say that I have heard that it is easier to get meds privately. I know that with Medicare, sufferers on a website I temporarily took over in the US got Ondansetron as Zofron and sometimes home rehydrating kits as a matter of course. But certainly it is worth going to a NHS doctor as Natsku says, armed with fact sheets from the linked websites,and saying that you are sure you wil need pre-emptive meds as you suffered last time badly up untiil 6months (poor you for that, by the way ). Did they refuse you all meds last time? That's awful. It is worth phoning the Pregnancy Sickness Support number too for advice on 024 7638 2020 and they will ring you back with good advice. What liquids did you find helped last time? If you have been lurking I am sure you have often seen my spiel about flat full sugar coke, ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, etc, and as a veteran, you will know all about kesostix.
Lifeofpies Hopefully, this one will sleep. My DD used to sleep all night in the uterus, though lively during the day, so maybe you can't tell!
Natsku When is DD's birthday? Good advice, as ever...
Apologies to anyone discourteously overlooked.

Her birthday is on the 1st but we're having her party on the 20th, gave out the invitations today so now fingers crossed baby stays firmly inside until at least the 22nd (so we have a day to tidy up after the party!)

Thank you for the advice and support - I'm on the app so can't tag anyone sorry! Last time I crawled through with Sominex which they let me have for about 6 weeks but after that they were really arsey about it (eg why don't you try it without them for a few weeks and see how you feel?) so in the end I just got it on the sly over the counter via my DP and slept / ate whenever I could. Mostly spent weeks 5-12 in bed feeling like I had a whisk in my head at any noise or light and threw up every 45 mins 🤢 so I can't cope with doing all that again!
I'll try my gp and take the info suggested and hope that I get someone sympathetic. I tend to always feel rushed and like they have a million other people to see though, which is why I think private might be the way forward. Pretty sure I survived on dry coco pops, mashed potato and dandelion and burdock
Has anyone found taking vitamin B6 has helped? X

B6 didn't help for me but I was only able to get it in 200mg tablets so broke it in half and I think it was just too much, you're supposed to take 10mg I think several times a day to get the right effect from it.

Welcome norbert - I truly hope you have a better experience with your GP this time. Is it the same practice/GP? I went armed with the RCOG guidelines and told them I had already been taking promethazine OTC and measuring ketones (thanks to the amazing advice from the ladies here!), and I think they just didn’t bother putting up a fight, though my GP would far rather I wasn’t taking meds.

Your dry coco pops made me laugh - I had about a week of only eating them over Christmas!

Hi everyone! I'm newly pregnant with number 3 after 2 previous HG pregnancies. The first was bad and continued until about 24wks. The second was worse and stayed all the way (though was easier toward the end.)

Have got home from work this evening and nausea's hit me out of nowhere. Not too bad, but a bit of a surprise as I'm only 4w2d. Didn't start till 6w last two times. Part of me is hoping it's just tiredness / long day / not eaten or drunk enough / maybe start of a urine infection.

Otherwise it's going to be time to break out the ondansetron again....

All of a sudden much worse tonight. 7 weeks tomorrow... feel like it’s going to be rough. On the plus side, I remembered to ‘borrow’ some urine dip sticks from work so at least I’ll know when things are too bad... silver linings?!

Haha yes I did at least get congratulated on my excellent iron levels at my booking appt I must get some kesosticks as I never used them last time and it might help me persuade my gp! Hoping by some miracle that I'm in a tiny % that won't get it again but I'm just clinging to anything to keep me positive before it all kicks in... X

No posted for a little while, but I'm really struggling
I think this stage was the worst point last time but at the moment I just can't see an end to this. My dp is wound up with me as things around the house aren't tying done - I try and try to explain how rubbish I feel but he doesn't get it and thinks I'm just being lazy. He just doesn't understand how much of an effort everything is, even the most minor tasks, I dont know what to do, I'm supposed to go back to work (post mat leave) on the 29th but at the moment that seems like an impossible task.
I'm sorry to rant/moan but just feel like I need to vent somehow, I basically sat at home in tears while my dp has taken ds out for breakfast and to the supermarket (because otherwise we'll go hungry because even though it's not a big ask I won't do the shopping 🙄)
How do you cope? I feel like I had my shit together much better last time and this time I just feel like I'm falling apart 😭

So sorry, mumanddave, HG is hard enough without an unsupportive husband. You DH will just have to suck it up—you really can’t get stuff done. I haven’t done good shopping since mid Dec, and struggle to do any cleaning. Thankfully DS is a bit older (4) so easier to entertain. Please don’t push yourself too much. It probably was more manageable last time because you didn’t have a baby in tow... I imagine you’re doing a lot more than you think you are at present. DH isn’t going to die from take away meals and a messy house for a few months. Big hugs to you.

*food shopping not good shopping!

Sorry I realise now that sounded very braggy. My first was a complete Velcro baby that I had to rock or carry to get to sleep and as soon as I put him down he would wake for at least the first year of his life. It's just so bloody opposite. I really didn't think easy babies actually existed lol. It's funny as I really didn't mind at all it was exhausting though.

I'm so sorry for all the colicky reflux babies it's so tough. I'm wishing everyone a mini b then as he is so easy. He does make me feel ill at ease though.

Life good luck with the job interview it's not fun at the best of times.

Stay put put baby natsku your big sister may never forgive you lol.

God Norbert please don't let them do that to you again. Take in the NICE guidelines and tell them to do their fecking job. Rope in as much help with your wee one and get signed off, work will have to cope soon enough without you so sooner just can't be helped.

Bad sounds like it's med time again. Preemptive meds do seem to make a difference for most on the thread so defo take them if you can.

Mumma please tell me how that's all your responsibility if it's a woman's work attitude I give you permission to kick him, seriously cross for you. How unfair can he be?? I get that anyone not to have suffered hg don't get it but has he ever been laid up with food poisoning or a really bad stomach bug? Just say that's what it's like for you for weeks on end!!! If he wants the house work done maybe you guys could stretch the budget to a cleaner for the mean time? It's awful not to feel listened to but worse when it's someone who is supposed to care for you the most in the world. If it helps my oh was the same it's so hard I get it. Heaven forbid but what if you had an accident and ended up disabled who would wipe his arse do all the house jobs then?

mustang you didn’t come across like that at all. Hope your gorgeous LO is doing really well X

Oh dear, suffering all round, by the look of things.
Welcome to BadHominem. As a veteran, you don't need any advice from me about kesostix, flat full sugar coke, ice lollies, and the juice of tinned fruit or whatever you can stand best. Sorry the nausea has already hit. Do get whatever meds helped last time. As a third time sufferer, I can't believe they won't supply some pre-emptive ones when the nausea is hitting so early. Have you got a reasonable amount of real life help?
Norbert I never heard of Seminex as a first line treatment - I thought usually they start with cyclizine but maybe that's a new development? What an awful experience - it's dreadful to be dismissed like that. Do phone that 024 7638 2020 line for advice about getting effective meds.
Mummadave I so agree with what LifeofPies and Mustang have said - your OH must have known you would be ill, and he's being frankly selfish and insensitive. Cyber hugs on offer from me, too.
Can you get a sick note? There' s no point in going to work only to colllapse, and realistically people are usually off for a good while with this unless the meds really stop it in its tracks.
Natsku Fingers crossed baby stays inside. I hope your stomach ache has gone.
Didn't Sorry things have got worse - and I do hope you are off, nags Mother Hen?
Mustang You didn't sound at all smug - those of us who had sleepless little tyrants were bowled over with envy!
ElephantGrey How are things? LifeofPies Everyone?
I see that Thingymaboob is top of the list. I hope she has good news for us soon.

DueDates
Thingymaboob 10 January
mrsb87 13 January
Flossyfloss 13 January
1984fs 27 January
Spearo21 24 January
Natsku 27 January
Emu21 22 February
OrangeCloud 4 March
justtheone 9 March
Shez21 22 March
scottishem 22 March
AndInShortIWasAfraid 27 March
Polyfilla 25 April
Poppet1985 28 April
dillydollydarling 4 May
seizethecuttlefish 13 May
Sally Mid May
Bunnyfluffy 20 May
BATMAN 21 May
Greenbeanies 23 May
Elephantgrey 25 May
Meadowhay 18 June

And me! :)
DueDates
Thingymaboob 10 January
mrsb87 13 January
Flossyfloss 13 January
1984fs 27 January
Spearo21 24 January
Natsku 27 January
Emu21 22 February
OrangeCloud 4 March
justtheone 9 March
Shez21 22 March
scottishem 22 March
AndInShortIWasAfraid 27 March
Polyfilla 25 April
Poppet1985 28 April
dillydollydarling 4 May
seizethecuttlefish 13 May
Sally Mid May
Bunnyfluffy 20 May
BATMAN 21 May
Greenbeanies 23 May
Elephantgrey 25 May
Meadowhay 18 June
Didntcomeheretofuckspiders 1st September

Lucinda I’m off for the weekend anyway so will see how things are Monday morning. I might manage to cover my clinics this week if nothing else. Would only be 3 hours x 5 then.

Hello Lucinda! I’ll Hopefully add my name to the list after my dating scan (tomorrow morning). Finding things a bit tough at the moment with HG, interview prep and scan anxiety, had a few good crying sessions this weekend, which I think I needed, going back to presentation writing shortly.

Wishing everyone a peaceful weekend, as far as possible!

Mummadave if you haven't already, please go and see your gp. Sorry if I'm projecting here but I had terrible pnd that came to a head when ds was 9 mths and you sound so similar to me. This does not make up for your other half being a so and so. Sending you lots of love.
Spiders I found it really rough around 7-10 weeks. Take it easy, if you can.
Bad massive respect to you. I'm on hg pregnancy number 2 and I'm NEVER EVER doing this again. I started really early this time too.
Norbert my gp was like that. The hospital eventually told him to prescribe ondansetron but he tries to take me off it once a month. As everyone says, take the guidelines in, speak to the pregnancy sickness support charity and stand your ground. It's you going through this, not them.
Natsku make that baby nice and comfy. Fingers crossed.
I'm sure I've missed loads. Tried to come off ondansetron again. Felt vile and started vomiting. Back on it. Dr will not be amused. I have the consultant next week, so will see what she says. I got out today and bought some birthday presents etc. Now my hips (inside not outside bit, stop me if I get too technical lol) are sore! I may actually be failing to pieces. HG ok though.
Gentle hugs all round

Hi, I'm new here to this thread, not new to HG unfortunately. I'm 9wks into my 3rd HG preg. I don't live in the UK but I have to say, of all the forums I've visited and lurked on dedicated to HG, this one felt the most welcoming.

DD was 7 yrs ago, DS was 5 years ago. So I'm on ondansetron 8 mg three times daily since week 5, but I still have some really bad days. I'm working on getting signed off from work. I mean, I haven't been to work in 2 weeks, but I don't have the official sick note yet. somehow having history of HG means nothing to my dr., she wants to see me totally dehydrated in hospital before she gives me the sick leave note.

I've been lurking for a while now, and read through so many messages on this thread, I feel as if I know you all already. Congrats to mustang and spearo on the new bundles of joy. natsku, brave of you to host DD's birthday party, hope all goes well. Lucinda, I've read your spiel about the flat full sugar coke etc... and I love the analogy of the pink castle in the clouds. You can add my due date to the list - 16th Aug. Argh, it's so far away!

In the past, my HG lasted till 24 weeks, and I know some of you have it all the way to the end, but I can't fathom feeling like this for so long.

Congratulations on the pregnancy Endora and commiserations on the return of the HG. Hopefully this time around it won't last so long.

Sooo many braxton hicks today! Seems almost constant! Completely painless though thankfully, just weird feeling.

Hi all, been having a rough couple of days after reducing steroid dose so took the original dose today (naughty but I couldn't cope) and starting to feel better. Going to see my GP on Monday and see if I can stay on that dose longer as I was doing so well. It's only a low one so I don't see why not. Feel like I would be better to stay on that and try and wean off the other three anti emetics I'm on maybe. Or just stay on them all.

Welcome newbies, sorry you're having to be here.

I can't remember what has been said but whoever had the unsupportive husband, WTF?! He needs to be looking after you, yes it's tough on him but tough! HG is a fucker and I did nothing but lie still vomiting and crying for many weeks. Previously crap at housework DH cooked, cleaned, shopped etc. I'm so cross on your behalf.

Whoever asked about preemptive meds - yes- get them. I would go to my usual gp armed with rcog guidelines and the PSS info pages. Then if no joy go private. You shouldn't have to though.

Mustang- I'm praying for a nice sleepy one like you

Natsku my BH really ramped up this last week. Some of them are a but breath taking. God knows how I will cope in labour!

at everyone old and new. Sorry I'm sure I've missed loads but I couldn't read over the last few days.

@mummadave Everyone else has said perfectly sensible things, so at this point my only contribution is that if I were you I would grab with both hands every opportunity presented to vomit over the selfish bastard. Even if he doesn't get the hint at least you have sweet, petty revenge.

@LucindaE thanks for the welcome, and I am indeed a veteran. I'm also a massive cheat in that I'm a qualified doctor, so with my first successful pregnancy, when I found myself spending a day lying on the floor of the bathroom unable to move I phoned my GP and told them in no certain terms exactly what I wanted (between retches). I thought it was coming because my Mum had it, and I was not prepared to a) feel never-ending nausea b) be signed off work.

I'm actually really lucky. I respond so well to ondansetron 4mg that I'm actually able to function relatively well. Wake up; neck tablet; lie still another five minutes while it gets to work; kick OH repeatedly until he gets the hint to bring me a tiny bowl of cornflakes with ice cold milk. Once I've got a bit of food in my stomach my stubbornness does the rest and I make it through the day with tiny food or ondansetron top ups as required.

I think if I had it to the level some of you ladies get it to I'd have definitely stopped at one DC. And I'm still worried because last time was worse than the first, and there is a chance that this one will be the one that proves to be more stubborn than I am.

I now have a prescription for ondansetron waiting in my drawer for its moment...

Endora44 Welcome. I am glad you have read through for tips.
I'll add you to the due dates list. Roll on the Pink Castle and I am glad that you like the image, and though it seems a long way away for you, 'This Too Must Pass'...You must have read my comments about anti acids, too, so probably not worth suggesting one of those? It's bad your GP is delaying about a long term sick note.
Badhominem I am glad you are a doctor, maybe we can cheekily ask for advice now and then!
justtheonethen I do hope you manage to get on an effective dose.
LifeofPies Much sympathy over dating scan anxieties. The chances are massively in your favour. I had them too because of an mmc. Best wishes for interview, too. Very brave of you.
seizethecuttlefish Glad your Hyperemesis isn 't toatsku Satsku bad, even if the hips are sore.

Natsku I am glad the BH are painless.
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.

My pc just crashed. Quickly, before it crashes again...

DueDates
Thingymaboob 10 January
mrsb87 13 January
Flossyfloss 13 January
1984fs 27 January
Spearo21 24 January
Natsku 27 January
Emu21 22 February
OrangeCloud 4 March
justtheone 9 March
Shez21 22 March
scottishem 22 March
AndInShortIWasAfraid 27 March
Polyfilla 25 April
Poppet1985 28 April
dillydollydarling 4 May
seizethecuttlefish 13 May
Sally Mid May
Bunnyfluffy 20 May
BATMAN 21 May
Greenbeanies 23 May
Elephantgrey 25 May
Meadowhay 18 June
Endorra44 16 August
Didntcomeheretofuckspiders 1st September