Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is great: 024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Melleebacca That makes sense, I'll keep on the pills for now then and see how the next month goes.

Oh user that's a disgrace if you felt pushed towards a termination. lol'd a little at the plastic Lemon vom even though I know it's not funny. Are you in the uk? Seems weird they would push for that and not like women. Meh just because the are drs doesn't make them nice ppl though.

Anatidae, hi sorry you have had this torture you now at every ovulation that sounds dreadful but maybe not surprising as it's obviously the increased hormones. I have been more sensitive since HG to nausea but no where near the likes of you. I can't really offer any suggestions other than seeing if your dr would prescribe a regular antisickness to get you through. Good luck on ttc baby no2 I'm 18 weeks into my second HG pregnancy and this will be my last.

Pippa are you in France? Or have I made that up.

DeadDoor May I ask if you're very young? You look younger than me in the pic you posted and I thought I was the youngest here

Another rubbish day. Baby is going crazy in there though, looks like someone's loving a magnet when you watch my tummy!

Anatidae - we must've suffered at the same time, as my DD is 21 months today.
Sounds like your HG is caused by your hormone levels. For a few days after ovulation, your body behaves as if an egg has been fertilized, and the hormone levels increase. Then if nothing happens, they drop back down again. I'm allergic to high levels of estrogen, so the pill makes me behave the same as HG.

User - different pregnancies, different foods. I have more food aversions this time around than my first pregnancy because I can't stomach the things I could with DD, and all the things I couldn't stomach with her. Makes for a very bland pregnancy. Just keep trying things to see if they work. The only liquid I can drink is very cold water.

Me - getting over a cold here. Hubby got it too, and he flies out tomorrow. Fortunately DD seems to have escaped it. Not a major one, but any added illness in pregnancy is awful. Has meant there's been extra gagging and trying not to vomit when I cough.
36w tomorrow. August can not come soon enough!

As predicted today has been a nightmare. Now at our friends house but already vomited since dinner. Debating going and getting some more iv fluids tomorrow.

Blue Yeah, I'm 23, same age as Lucinda' s daughter.

The DH has felt baby Door kick now. Exactly 23 weeks and he decided it's time lol. He's happy though that he felt him even though it was faint. Buy it's going to be good for him I think.

Hi all!
anatidae like mellee said it could be the pill giving you these symptoms?
I tried going on the pill after dd and immediately had similar nausea and exhaustion feelings as when I was pg. So quickly came off it and refused to embark on trying any other hormonal contraception as I was sick of feeling sick...which made birth control slightly more challenging...er...hence imminent arrival of dc no 2!! Lol! We will be re-thinking birth control after this one has arrived but that's tmi anyway if it's any encouragement my symptoms have been less severe second time around.
iamserious hello and congratulations on your little daughter! Glad you are all doing well.
dead congratulations! Both for your degree and for making it through the graduation with hg!
lemon yey for reaching the 30w mark. I really felt the worst days were behind me at this point. You are getting closer to the pink castle
bean can't imagine having to pack and move house in your condition. Well done for getting through it and hope you are able to rest a bit in the next few days.
mellee hope your cold goes soon xx
user I'm slightly obsessed with watermelon from the fridge at the moment, seems to be going down well.
Hi lucinda glad your dd's graduation went well!
Waves to everyone xxx

mellee yes it certainly feels like that. It's pretty miserable! I'm hoping I am at least pregnant this month to account for the sickness :)

I can't wait to get back on the pill - I can't take the combined one either (focal migraines) but the mini pill seems to reduce the sickness a lot.

Ooops! daffodil - congratulations! I seem to be very sensitive to hormones but the mirena and mini pill were Ok. You could always have a copper coil after you've had dd? They aren't massive amounts of fun to fit but they do last a long time and no hormones.

To be honest I always just go with the pull-and-pray method

Cooked a roast duck today and hoped to manage to eat it without vomiting and I did, but then had a few too many sweets for pudding later on and now its come back up so definitely not time to wean off the meds. I've got the midwife on Tuesday so I'm going to ask if I can see the doctor again about the meds, probably need to see him anyway as I've been on the thyroxine a month now so need to see if its working.

Mustang yes I'm in the U.K. Think I just have a very poor local hospital, have worked in three and have to say this is the worst, bullying and a very intertwined workforce I.e mothers,sons and their wives all in the same department makes for a very strange working environment. Funnily the lemon episode made my daughter laugh, she has a pretend shop which usually sells food but as of this morning sells books
Daffodil I will try watermelon, great idea

Marking my place. Will catch up tomorrow. We've had people staying for the weekend and I've done nothing but throw up.

Weasel wish there was something I could say.

Anatidae - last baby here. Hubby is going to watch me push out this watermelon and not make a peep when he has his 5 minute snip procedure a couple of weeks later. I'm still tossing up whether or not I get sterilized, as that needs me to be on the waiting list for a few months.

Got to go out but just dashing on to say to Anitidae that as Hyperemesis is often caused by a hormonal imbalance, it makes sense you feel bad on a pill or round the times of ovulation and menstruation. Like many, I was OK on the mini pill apart from bloating but the other gave me migraines and vomiting and I was prone to menstrual migraine and sometimes migraines round the time of ovulation. As others say, there must be something the doctor can give you to ease it. I gave up on hormonal contraceptives and began using the cervial cap, which I thought was excellent if y ou avoid your couple of fertile days (judged by vaginal mucus) if possible.

Like @LucindaE said, I think it's s hormone imbalance too. I also had migraines with the pill. After trying every contraceptive under the sun I highly recommend the mirena coil. It releases hormones locally so you don't get a systemic effect, like with the pill. I love it, never caused any problems. Occasional spotting. No PMT. Copper coil was horrific in my experience. 12 day heavy periods and had all the usual pmt symptoms.

Anatidae sorry to hear you're still suffering, I hadn't heard of that before, but what others have said makes total sense. I've been very fortunate and didn't have any problems after my DD, but having said that I only had a few periods (breastfeeding seemed to keep them away for a very long time in my case) and used non-hormonal birth control before becoming pregnant again. It's interesting to hear this can be a problem - I'll bear that in mind when thinking about contraception after this one!

Mustang we're not in France, but close enough (Belgium).

bean sorry to hear about the sickness whilst moving, you're a brave lady, hope things settle down soon and you have lots of help.

Sorry, I've missed lots of people off I know, thread has moved quickly again!

Hi all

Just dropping in quickly and have only skim read, as sitting in the hospital waiting room. Will come back properly later but just to say

Natsku, totally agree with Mellee. Don't come of meds too soon. I did it, despite advice on here, and it was a real bad idea!!

Pippa, I guess you won't be going t the Isle of Wight, but just to say I would not suggest it for a break for a HG sufferers. So many feckin hills!!! I was so weak and found it very hard to walk around. Have you been to Bruges? Love Bruges.

My sickness has increased again between 28-30 weeks (after calming down better 24-28), but not feeling too bad today and haven't thrown up since Friday.

Waves to all I missed. Sorry for the flying visit.

My partners uncle is from Belgium Pippa they live near Figeac in France now was going to offer their wee holiday farm its beautiful. Obviously I can't really do that but it was very relaxing with a baby in tow I loved it plus the wine was phenomenal even if I had to watch what I was drinking due to bf.

Linking really to what Lemon said about sickness ramping up at certain weeks. Does anyone have any ideas on when the hormone surges are? I'm feeling truly miserable here at 19 weeks been really sick last couple of days and my head is pounding 😢.

Hi Weasle I really hope you are doing ok and you are getting looked after by your oh. Hope you don't have to wait long for the tests as I can only imagine the wait is truly torture.

Hope everyone else is doing ok.

Mustang I don't know about anyone else but I seem to be having a surge at 23 weeks. Feeling really nauseous right now after about a month of not so all hopes of coming off ondansetron soon has ended. Luckily I don't seem to have problems with constipation anymore so that's good.

For those of you in your 3rd trimester (or coming up to it), what meds are you taking now?

I am 21 weeks and have been taking 3 Prochlorperazine (5mg) and 4 Ondansetron (4mg) a day. Over the last couple of weeks, I have had to reduce my ondansetron to just one a day because of severe constipation which ended up with getting painful hemorrhoids :( Actually it has worked fine, because my nausea is much better and I am going to talk to my doctor about coming off ondansetron entirely.

I am not sure about what I should suggest to the GP that I take in the third trimester though. The NICE guidelines suggest:

• cyclizine
• promethazine
• ondansetron - gives me awful constipation/hemorrhoids
• metoclopramide - not recommended for more than 5 days at a time (NICE guildines)
• prochlorperazine (Stemitil) - not recommended in 3rd trimester

According to the leaflet that comes with the pills: "The following symptoms may occur in newborn babies, of mothers that have used prochlorperazine tablets in the last trimester: shaking, muscle stiffness and/or weakness, sleepiness, agitation, breathing problems, and difficulty in feeding."

I feel like I have no options but to go back to cyclizine and/or promethazine. I didn't try promethazine, but found cylizine useless in early pregnancy. It did however do a great job of making me sleep all day long.

I should add that I am doing pretty well with nausea and have not vomited in over a week. I don't think I would be doing very well without the prochlorperazine though. Pretty scared to think about coming off it.

Any advice?

beanhunter Is the move completed? If you feel awful, it sounds very sensible to have fluids. It's amazing the amount of sufferers who have to undergo moving house/being made redundant.
Daffodil Never worry about tmi.
DeadDoorPost You are a spring chicken indeed.
Melleebacca Sorry about cold, but congratulations on reaching 36 weeks.
Oklahoma Poor you, having to entertain visitors. Much symapthy.
user1471 I have to admit I smiled at the plastic lemon vomit too, but it's not funny that it set you off. That sounds a really weird hospital - workplaces where too many people are related always are weird, I don't know why it is.
Lemondrop Oops - silly me, I'd forgotten the hills! You are right: those preclude it, and most of Wales for a certainty...
weasledee Thinking of you.
DeadDoorPost Sorry to hear of hormonal surge.
satsooma If the remedies with Ondansetron didn't help with the constipation, laculose and those suppositories and so on, then it does seem as if it might have to be either of the first two. I didn't know that about stemetil. I have encountered women who have stayed on metoclopramide for months, and the dr's didn't seem concerned; maybe the twitchiness which rarely occurs in the mothers has been only a reently noted side effect?

Natsku As others say, don't try and rush off the meds. Most agree it's best to wait until you have had a long run of good days, and ease off slowly. Sorry that the sweets tipped the balance with the duck.
Waves to Mustang and everyone...Apologies to anyone rudely ignored/cross posted with.

DeadDoor I'm not quite 20 yet so still younger than you (Flaunts youthful locks)

So very envious you got to meet Dawn French! She's fab. Apparently she done a guest post on MN a little while ago?

So ladies... For the last 48 hours I've had slight nausea in the morning and after that, nothing!

I went shopping today for DH's birthday stuff and I love browsing and buying. For the first time in forever (well since having HG), I couldn't be asked one smudge and just got what I needed and went Im exhausted and feel like I've had an Olympics behind me just now.

Please someone give me a kick up the bum to visit Asda and pick up DH's birthday cake.

Thanks LucindaE. I have tried all the anti-constipation meds (lactulose, bisacodyl, senna, docusate, eating more water and fibre when I can manage it). It certainly helps, but not enough to avoid problems.