Staying posifrickentive- Thread 17 for ladies pg after mc

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I couldn't see a new thread.

Hope you all find this one ok!

Good luck on your scan today @TootsyBella84

Great news on your scans Dancing and mogul

Thank you. I'm not quite sure what to expect - I assume bloods and maybe a scan? Is there anything I should be asking for / pushing for today?

I think having this appointment today has really hit home that I am now one of "those people" that I used to feel sorry for.

Glad you've had good news dancing and mogul, it's so good to see others in a similar boat who are getting positive news!

Megs
Your rmc will probably me mostly blood tests today. Drink plenty of water so that they can get the 6-8 vials of blood out of you. It took them an hour with me cos I was cold. Eventually DH gave me his jumper and jacket and I walked around the room a bit waving my arms to get blood flowing a bit. I am notoriously difficult to get blood from though.
They may put you on low dose aspirin given you are already pregnant, if they don't suggest it I would ask. And ask for a reason why not if they say no.
Maybe ask to get progesterone levels checked? Not sure they will do it, but at least you can ask and they can give you a reason why not.
They may do a hcg for you and get you checked at your gp in a couple of days.
All the best with it. I took a wee notebook with me as I wanted to make sure I had asked them all my questions, but also that I had all my history written down so that I didn't get emotional, I just read it out, if that makes sense.

Thanks Miami that's really helpful. I've got a big bottle of water and my notebook at the ready!

Good luck today JC and Tootsy

Megs your RMC may not be able to do many tests today - pregnancy changes your immune system and hormone profile, so I had to be 2 months clear of my last pregnancy to get any tests. More than likely they will give you aspirin empirically - that was the plan with my RMC if I got pregnant before my blood test results came in.

I've had some pink discharge today and just done a Clearblue ovulation predictor test that says I am 2-3 weeks when I should be 3+. I think this pregnancy is going to end in another miscarrige which means two back to back.

Those tests are not very accurate. They depend very much on how dilute your urine is. I hope you are wrong and that bean is sticky.

Fuzzy I know it's no guarantee everything is ok, but I had issues with the clear blue not going up weeks (got stuck on 2-3) - a scan at the time showed all was ok. Things like particularly high HCG levels can effect the reading.
Have you got got access to Epau? Can you go today/tomorrow? Hope you're ok X

Fuzzy I hate those tests. Presumably you didn't use FMU? That could easily have impacted the result. I really hope it's just those tests being inaccurate.

fuzzy try not to worry about what test says as they are very unreliable, when I had last MMC I was seeing on them every few days with varying results which worried me way more than I already was, I know in my case it wasn't a good outcome but I'd got myself so worried and worked up that I couldn't relax at all! Tho if phone EPU about pink discharge

Thanks for the support. I really appreciate it as today is just going to be full of worry. I've ordered some more tests for next day delivery, so hopefully I will get a better result. And no, it wasn't FMU although considering how often I am up in the night, I am not really sure how well that would work anyway. I hate the worry of pregnancy so much! This will be my third miscarrige if so.

Sorry to hear this "would" be (hopefully not tho) your 3rd, I can sympathise as I know how hard it is to go through it over and over again!

fuzzy those tests are the devil's work aren't they? I'm also stressing hugely as I'm 4+5 and not moving past 1-2. I agree get yourself to an EPU and get checked.

I've been prescribed progesterone and prednisolone as well as aspirin, so will start them today once I've collected the sodding prescription from the hospital pharmacy of doom.

I'm hoping upon hope that they help though I'm already 10 days into pregnancy so maybe I've missed the boat. Also feeling apprehensive as I've read the side effects can be grim. However, if they get me a healthy baby I won't complain!

They also said to get a scan in a couple of weeks so I'll do that once I'm 6 weeks.

What dosage of prednisolone are you on megs? I take courses of this regularly (for my health) but until recently didn't know they could be used to aid pregnancy

tea 20mg a day. How have you found taking it?

Thanks Tea and Megs. No more discharge and I've had a little cry and then given myself a proper talking to about the tests. Of course they are unreliable and I always tell anyone who will listen that they are! Today I am pregnant and unless/until I know otherwise for certain, that will remain the case. I'm too early really for a scan so I think that will just cause extra worry. I will do another test at the weekend and am seeing my doctor next week anyway, so will chat then.

I also take prednisone at times for autoimmune conditions. I don't overly suffer with side effects, (other than hunger, insomnia and being a bit more assertive 😉). Hope they help you.

I've just been reading through the pamphlet and I'm not sure if I should take it; it says a common side effect is mental health issues, and I already suffer from anxiety... Dilemma!

Will do more research.

fuzzy well done on the PMA!

megs I only ever get side effects when on a high dosage (40-50mg) and even then its normally an unsatisfyable hunger and moonface/weight gain but never had any side effects at all when taking 30mg or lower

I'm not drinking that much but like you more than normal but tbh I can drink very little day to day when not preg

Hi utter! I'm so glad you've been reassured you'll be able to go down the route you want for your little ones' births! Re natural birth - you can totally imagine my frustration with my consultant 😂 we were totally at loggerheads and it felt like a full on battle. I can understand she was absolutely just doing her job and going through the hospital's standard procedure but she kept saying things like "I'm not going to put my neck out on the line for you" well it's my body and my babies I don't HAVE to do anything they want me to do! Obviously wouldn't be stupid enough to go against medical advice though so really wanted to come to a compromise we could all agree on. Ended up with the consultant writing "preference for homebirth" (as it stands I have no in between as wouldn't be allowed in the midwife led unit!) and agreeing I don't have to attend any more consultant appointments and from now on my antenatal care can be midwife led.
It seemed like such a waste of time - same as you described utter she didn't actually DO anything - it was like a GP appointment just sitting at a desk and chatting. But one which we had to drive an hour to get to and wait for 2 hours before being seen . I totally get if you're going down the route of interventions or c section you need to speak to a consultant because they're the ones who will be performing those kinds of procedures but they have no experience of normal natural births and we were not on the same page at all.
Luckily seeing my midwife earlier this week has completely reassured me - she's attended twin homebirths before but highlighted the concern of living an hour away from the nearest hospital - especially as the risk of haemorrhaging is higher with twins (larger placental area) so she is complying as much info as possible on twins and homebirth, ringing up the MLU to see if she can come to an agreement with the manager for allowing us in there instead of the hospital, referred me to Facebook pages for a local homebirth and positive birth group and just generally was so supportive and positive which was amazing in comparison to the consultant appointment. Phew!!

I'm drinking LOADS I'm so thirsty all the time but I'm sure you'll be getting loads of hydration from fruit and ice lollies too! I've also realised I feel horrendous - sometimes including vomiting - until approx. 11.30 every.single.day. so I've still got fingers crossed it will pass but for now it is bloody horrendous.

Hope everyone else is doing ok - only had a quick scan but I'm so sorry to those who have had losses and those who are waiting anxiously on some reassurance I've been a bit AWOL recently, my DH has just moved away to a new base for a few months for some specialist training so it's been a bit of an upheaval. Hey ho, RAF life!

Hi all hope you're all ok...

@mammabear4 I can't understand why your consultant is being an arse. Your pregnancy is the least risky for twins being non identical. I could understand if they were identical as they pose more risks such as ttts. Although my sil had a lot of problems with my nephews who are non identical, their placentas fused and caused slow growth. She was at the fetal medicine clinic every week for a scan but her case is extremely rare.

I've had a nightmare of a day. I started having contractions around lunch time today. Really severe breath taking, teeth gritting contractions. Called mau at my booking hospital who then sent me over to the bigger hospital with an advanced nicu as I'm 28 weeks their nicu isn't kitted out for grade 4 care. So we head over there. Was on the ctg for 2 hours having regular contractions but less painful than they had been. Fundal height is measuring 35 weeks not 28 so they were all over me! They scanned me, found baby is still very much breech and measuring 28 weeks in there but because of her presentation and my weird womb my fundal height is bigger which I could have told them. They did some weird test to see if I was in labour which I wasn't. Checked my cervix which is closed and long and eventually came to the conclusion that I have an irritable uterus and that's what the contractions are!
They discharged me and gave me a referral for an extra growth scan which I should be having anyway but my consultant has failed to arrange this.
Glad to be home and not about to give birth any time soon. I just hope they don't start up like they did earlier because that was really really painful for nothing 🙁

That sounds scary Amy. Glad it is settled for now.

I am drinking loads, far more than I normally do. I haven't measured how much but easily about 2 litres a day.

I hope you and the consultant manage to see eye to eye Mama.

I am on 20mg prednisolone and 400mg of progesterone every day. I had utterly horrendous mood swings for about 3 weeks but they seem to have settled down. I also have the moon face. I have been pretty constantly ravenous but I don[t know how much of that is the pregnancy and how much is the steroids. I take my last full done tomorrow, then I start reducing them down. Make sure they give you a blue steroid card and that you carry it with you. It is important not to come off them cold turkey if you have been on them for more than 3 weeks, so if you are in an accident hospital has to know in case you are taken in unconscious (not that anyone wants to even think about that happening.

Eek Amy sounds like you've had quite an ordeal! So glad everything was fine but really hope it doesn't happen again, sounds quite scary!

That was another thing - she kept drilling in to us about TTTS and as far as I was aware that's not an issue if the placentas are separate but who am I to argue with a medical professional?! I think she was just giving us the generic twin speech and wasn't really bothered about us as a specific case - seemed like she didn't really take into account my previous labour or the fact the twins are DCDA. Hopefully won't be seeing her again though and will only be the lovely midwives from now on! I think if you're going down the natural route the midwives are always going to be more "on side" - I feel like they look at you as an individual person and not just a "case".

Anyway must stop ranting and posting these major long messages!

utter have you felt babies move yet? And are you taking iron supplements? Was the first thing my midwife said - she said lack of iron will be making you feel drained of energy and tired all the time and I was like ah well that's it then! Might be the placebo effect but I've been taking iron tablets since Monday and do feel more myself!